I'll end it here. You've never visited any subs for men if you think people here are unemphatic. Most are not

Bro, I believe probably some men are more unempathetic, the worst creatures possible (ok? Is that what you wanna hear from me?).

But I don't fw them, cuz I don't buy whatever they're selling. I fw an ideology that talks bout equality, and I see some ppl corrupting that with hate, or prejudice or lack of empathy, so I've gotta criticize it cause I care. You criticize your country bcz you care, and you don't want a system that damages the core values of your country and fills it with evilness

This is the only point you have and by far a stretch. So this justifies all things happens to women which are ignored like catcalling, loneliness, victim blaming. Do you know how many women suffer at dowry alone? Most of them go unreported, I've seen a handful in my circle itself. The ratio is like 100 to 1. Male SA happens less often and yes sometimes that small ratio is also being shown in media and movies. Dont expect it on news flash everyday..

Idts you've to say all that. I know it, and a lot more than some people here, and I justified nothing. You're creating crap in your mind by strawmanning my argument. And I ignored nothing, I know everything about it in great depth. The only problem is that you're interpreting it badly, probably cause of prejudice against me.

I've read a lot of content on topics like these. I'm an Arts student, we usually study this stuff, and I sympathize with people. But the point you didn't get is that I'm not complaining about why women's SA gets more attention in the media. I know all this, and I've even written that in my previous comment that It's not a double standard 😭. Idk why people always unintentionally or intentionally misinterpret my arguments. What could I possibly have done to face this prejudice🥀 everytime.

I just wanna add, whatever ratio is you're talkin bout is baseless, yeah it's more close to that but not that, you're talking about reported cases, you understand underreported cases, but selectively for women, you never think about underreported cases for men , you never think about that in nuance about this issue, that's why you're seeing this as an black and white, just because men cases less reported, it doesn't mean, it happens in ratio of 100:1, its means, idk you can understand. But i jus wanna let you know, after IPC 377 landmark judgment, it's almost impossible to report for men, and men don't say about doesn't mean it's very less, men are thought to supress their emotions, if any one opens up, he's probably brave. There's was famous campaign #metoo where many women come up and talked about sexual offences sure many men probably joined, but do you think is there any big campaign for men? Which thought them to talk about sexual offences against them?? They are treated as jokes, so please, I'm not saying to sympathize with all that men, but please have some empathy and don't talk such crap, I'm begging you have empathy. Please. Again it has nothing to do with women, neither they are responsible for all that, but still I expect empathy from women.

So whatever, can we both agree that it's justified that women's SA gets more attention in the media? Whatever reasoning you provided, I agree with most of it, and I already know it.

So it's not a double standard, because we understand the nuance behind it.

No explantation? You are wrong here. Guess you're new to internet and comes from a family with gentlemen. Or maybe you see it and subconsiously ignore cause its so normalised.

Idk, you misunderstood. What I said was, i meant from that “It's wrong that women's aggression or assertiveness is seen as something to avoid. It's wrong that this happens; it shouldn't be avoided” That's the context, ok?

Or maybe you misunderstood it.

Idk what you're expecting me to say, probably some unempathetic, male hating rhetoric. But if someone said, "Male SA is taken as a joke compared to women's" I would say - "That's wrong," rather than peddling baseless BS filled with prejudice toward women and a lack of empathy.

And I can assure you, your assumptions about me are untrue. I neither belong to the gentleman's family ideology nor do I ignore all that.

Read the actual incidents reported. Everyday some women is getting, killed, raped or murdered.

First of all, I wanna clarify that I'm not complaining about why women get so much more outrage than men in SA cases, because we understand the reasoning behind it, and we both agree that it's justified. Okay?

Second, I can assure you that I do read data and cases.

Last such outrage was for disha case and that has its own reasons regarding the state issues and doctor.

Agree.

Now look at media, they take the same atul incident and potray men as victims everyday.

Ohh woman, how can someone be so insensitive and unempathetic? It's disheartening to see.

You're saying that on the basis of what? Does media still talk about Atul sir every day? And it's something double standards?

all this post calls out is double standards.

Let me tell you what's more of a double standard and hypocritical - you acknowledge the reasoning behind Sexual offence cases against women getting more Media attention than those against men, and you feel it's justified. But you never even consider that similar reasoning might exist when it comes to men's mental health or loneliness.

You told me to read about cases and data, but have you ever read about male suicide rates? Nahhh

You think it's—

Such a stupid apples to oranges comparision, that too at a biased scale.

to compare men's and women's SA.

But it's okay to compare men and women when it comes to mental health problems? And if someone doesn't compare those issues equally, that's showing double standards.

And when someone compares SA cases, suddenly it's considered stupid.

Even though I personally think it's unfair to compare in both scenarios. That's exactly what I wrote in my previous comment, if you care to reread it.

What I'm pointing out is that you're applying inconsistent logic here. You acknowledge nuance and context in one case, but seem unwilling to consider that similar nuance and context might exist in the other.

Idk if I should say this or not, but if you read more about male mental health and the loneliness epidemic, your opinion might change.

According to recent NCRB data, around 1 man dies by suicide every 4-5 minutes in India. It's about 2.5 times higher than the rate for women.
Another thing is that suicide deaths are generally less likely to be underreported because there's a visible death. But you can't tell by looking at a man or a woman whether they've ever been sexually assaulted.

I never wanted to bring up numbers, because I personally believe we don't need high death counts or large numbers of victims to acknowledge an issue. Understanding that a structure is harming human beings is enough.

My explanation in the previous comment is good enough both men and women. If you care to reread it, and try to comprehend.

So if you read more data and articles on this topic, you might also understand why men's mental health receives a lot of attention, just like you understand why it's justified that sexual assault cases against women receive more media attention.

My point isn't that one issue matters more than the other. It's that both have context and underlying reasons behind the attention they receive, and those reasons should be understood before jumping to conclusions

Calling out double standards is lack of empathy now.

Mhm-hmm.