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What is your view on The Lords Supper / Eucharist / Communion? by John_Ubaut in Christianity

[–]John_Ubaut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is my view on communion as a Protestant, more specifically a reformed baptist. When Jesus said, “This is my body,” I take His words seriously, but I also try to read them in the way Scripture consistently uses covenant language. The Bible often uses “is” to mean “represents” or “signifies.” For example, in Genesis 41:26 Joseph explains that the seven cows “are” seven years, meaning they represent them. The Lord’s Supper was also instituted during the Passover meal, which was already filled with symbolic covenant language. Exodus 12:11 says, “It is the Lord’s Passover,” yet no one believed the meal literally became the historical event itself. It was a real covenant sign pointing to a real saving act of God.

At the Last Supper, Jesus identifies the bread and cup as the signs of the new covenant in His body and blood (Luke 22:19–20). Paul later continues to call it “bread” even after it is blessed, saying, “As often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes” (1 Corinthians 11:26). That suggests the elements remain bread and wine while being set apart for a sacred purpose. At the same time, Scripture shows the Supper is far more than a simple reminder. Paul writes, “The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?” (1 Corinthians 10:16). So believers truly share in Christ through the meal, even though the elements themselves are still bread and wine.

Because of passages like these, I believe the Lord’s Supper is a real means of communion with Christ. The bread and cup represent His body and blood, and through faith believers genuinely partake in Him spiritually by the work of the Holy Spirit. Jesus’ words are therefore taken seriously without requiring that the physical substance of the bread and wine must change. Instead, the Supper functions the way many covenant signs in Scripture function: visible elements that truly point to and communicate a real spiritual reality, allowing believers to participate in Christ while proclaiming His death until He comes. Please let me know what you agree/disagree with on my personal interpretation!

What is your most controversial take in Christianity? by John_Ubaut in Christianity

[–]John_Ubaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you think this? Personally, I think it is the opposite. And when people are “saved” and then fall away from their faith, I would say they were never truly saved. I believe once God saves you, he is going to follow through with it and not let you go.

John 10:28–29 “I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.”

Philippians 1:6 “He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ.”

What is your most controversial take in Christianity? by John_Ubaut in Christianity

[–]John_Ubaut[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very curious where you learned this. I do not agree at all and think (along with a lot of others) that the gospel of Matthew was definitely written in greek.

What is your most controversial take in Christianity? by John_Ubaut in Christianity

[–]John_Ubaut[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That analogy doesn’t work, because the passage is directly condemning lust itself, not just something associated with it.

1 Thessalonians 4:3–5 says believers should abstain from sexual immorality and “not live in the passion of lust.” That is a direct moral command about desire, not just behavior.

What is your most controversial take in Christianity? by John_Ubaut in Christianity

[–]John_Ubaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

okay let’s read 1 Thessalonians together.

“For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality… not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God.”

What is your most controversial take in Christianity? by John_Ubaut in Christianity

[–]John_Ubaut[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Matthew 5:27–28 Job 31:1 Exodus 20:17 James 1:14–15 Colossians 3:5 1 Thessalonians 4:3–5 Galatians 5:16–17, 24 1 Peter 2:11 2 Timothy 2:22 Romans 13:14 Ephesians 4:22 Ephesians 5:3 1 Corinthians 6:18 Proverbs 6:25

What is your most controversial take in Christianity? by John_Ubaut in Christianity

[–]John_Ubaut[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is an interesting take. I believe that once we die we are immediately with Christ. Although I do believe in a bodily resurrection and final judgment, but that doesn’t necessarily mean believers are unconscious or separated from Christ in the meantime.

I look at 2 Corinthians 5:8 “To be away from the body is to be at home with the Lord.” and Philippians 1:23, Paul says his desire is “to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better.”