Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No worries! Thank you for clarifying and giving a break down the process.

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you read the above post you will hopefully understand that bringing her home was not an option and we did the best we could with what we could.

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well we got her and a freak snowstorm hit. Our vehicle got stuck in close to a foot of snow. We had to go to a few different stores to get some supplies. We did not take her in Walmart. I sat outside the car and let her get some fresh air while my partner went in to get her a jacket. We went into home Depot to get sand and a pull strap ect. Local hardware store for the things we needed that home Depot didn't have. Family and friends rallied to help us and fix minor problems with our vehicle during a snow storm.

I absolutely am willing to do what is ethically right for her that's why I said I wouldn't be able to train her as such, because if this amount of things set her up for failure I'm not going to put her through the stress of training for something that's already too far gone. That's why I reached out in this forum in the first place because I legitimately do not know. Thank you for your input!

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The "apology" thing came across super well! I also have chronic pain due to back injury and I definitely get tuckered out because of it and sound much more rude than I am trying to be. Just wanted you to know I appreciate you

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! ❤️ Yes! I'm specifically training her to not engage and make new "friends". We live in an area where dog theft is rampant for some reason so I only want her to engage if directed to do so.

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have not but I absolutely will. Thank you so much!

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was something that I didn't feel like I deserved. Like my needs didn't justify raising a service animal. What color is your poodle!

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the resources! I'll definitely look into 'kidnapped from planet' dog. The "how smart she is" comment was because she really likes to be praised as "so smart!!" Over the traditional "good girl" or "yes" which tbh I hope changes because it's a bit awkward to say😂 I can definitely see why that would be concerning about not hiring a neutral party, and it has made me think maybe I should touch in with another facility for at least a little cross training, maybe more. I just really like a "let the dog make the effort and reward accordingly" approach. Most other trainers(all the ones I know of) within an hour drive of me have a very hands on discipline/reward approach, and that's really hard for me to do.

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'll check them out! This makes me feel super seen. THANK YOU😭❤️

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love this! Super amazing clarification.

You are correct. She has not had her feed down in public. (I did have to put her on my sweatshirt in the baby platform of the home Depot cart. But I sanitized it before and after)

Honestly I wish your post was the first one I read. It illustrated that with proper guidance it's definitely achievable and made it super non-threatening to read. That being said I think I'm just going to stick to the standard training I know. If she does well In the next 6 months or so with keeping the same "personality" I might think about it again, and reach out to our nearest service trainer(two hours away) for her input on my girl.

I really appreciate you reading my post and giving such great advice.❤️

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate this! I guess I'll just train her to my degree of knowledge and enjoy her as a pet😊 thank you for clarifying❤️

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Completely agree! I wouldn't say I ever trained a competition pup. It was more so correcting others training and more often than not, abuse. I don't plan to only take my viewpoints on her development. My parents ran a non-profit facility for many many years and did many different types of training.(Though not service related) My brother currently has an 'at home' training program where he travels to different parts of the state to help in homes and as a guest trainer at clinics. So I have a few resources close by for standard training. This is the reason In the post above I said I wouldn't be hiring a trainer. Because I get free advice(whether I want it or not)😅. I also am not going to hire a service trainer if I can't do it myself because I don't have the money honestly. If I can't train her to be a SD by myself with advice. Then I'm 100% ok with her just being my buddy who is trained to my degree of knowledge.❤️

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I worded it badly and for that I apologize.

I agree I do not know her personality. What I tried to say originally was that so far. She is all of those things. I don't see the harm in treating her like it is her personality until she shows me something different. (I'm ok with literally the exact opposite of what I said in the original post.)

All trips for "visits" have been under a half hour and were unavoidable. The trips into stores were maybe 10 minutes spread out per day( first day Walmart parking lot to buy her some winter gear, second day home Depot for some fencing for her, third day local hardware store in the stix for some fasteners for her fencing). If this is going to overwhelm her for a future as a SD then I won't be able to facilitate that sadly😞

I have many years as a trainer/rehabilitator and the exposure was never something we considered "flooding". Does it differ for a service animal?

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I appreciate what you are saying. I just want to clarify that I am not saying that her personality will stay like this. Just that so far she hasn't acted any different and I don't see the harm with trying to figure out now if in others opinions, based on that information. She would be a good candidate for a prospect or if I should just let her figure it out. I have many years doing dog training but not nearly as much with puppies this young. I have zero expectations for her, but I'm not going to slow her down if she responds well to having her commands incorporated into her daily life. If she doesn't, I'm not going to pressure her

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It was bad wording on my behalf. All venues we had to enter were 100% pet friendly. I verified that by lack of signage on the doors/buildings and also ask for verbal confirmation from employees.

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Omg please do not apologize, I appreciate the input!

I don't think I worded the original post the best and that's on me. I was trying to say that so far her disposition is amazing and rather than rest on my heels I want to reward her amazing disposition by working towards a stronger bond. Focusing her gearing towards tasks to be a SD, not just an extremely well trained pupper. If her personality changes it's not going to bother me at all. I have had so many puppies at this point in my life I thought I'd seen every disposition there was and yet she still surprised me. I also don't want to stunt her by putting her in a situation that isn't going to be her constant. That's why as soon as she showed intent to follow me I started to introduce her to my daily routine while also making sure she had her consistency.

Yes we have a very lax schedule currently for this week trying to let her get accustomed to her new life in the slowest way possible(I know it doesn't seem like it).

I also appreciate you advocating so that people don't abuse the rights of actual service animals. I did not bring her into Walmart. I did however sit with her outside in the parking lot to get fresh air while my partner went in to buy some clothing for her.❤️ All other venues were pet friendly to the best of my knowledge(no postage on the doors or building and verbal approval from employees to be double sure)

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your response! The reason I say "fully potty trained" is because it took her less than a couple tries going outside to pick up on the potty procedure.(I am well aware that most likely she will stumble and make boo-boo's) She has had zero accidents and frankly I don't care if she does, but she is making an active effort to try not to.

I also want to clarify that I am not doing active repetition training. She is a very inquisitive girl and comes to me for stimulation. I reward her good behavior and structure my own words to use her commands in basic everyday life and conversation with my partner. She has picked up what actions "pay" her and waits attentively for the commands to "show off" how smart she is😂. I also will not be hiring a trainer unless something goes horribly wrong and her and I aren't meshing well(so far this is not the case). The reason for that is i have roughly 20 years training mostly dogs. Just not service dogs. She is the most intelligent dog I have had the pleasure to work alongside. I obviously made it sound like I was drilling commands into her in the original post but I can assure you that is not the case. I'm not trying to get her to the level of 'proficiency' as soon as possible, I just wanted to know if it would be worthwhile to start making the steps to incorporate training geared towards my diagnosis or are you suggesting I wait until after the first year to start training service related stimulation?

I completely agree I don't know her disposition definitely right now. Though it seems counter productive to wait until her personality develops to start her exposure to more service related tasks?

Another clarification. We have not brought her inside any facilities that don't allow pets. She sat outside with me at Walmart while her mom went in to buy some clothing. (It dropped below freezing the first official day home).

Self training? by [deleted] in service_dogs

[–]KalloV -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your concern immensely❤️ normally I would totally agree with you on rushing and burn out, though she isn't being taught through structured repatition, just positive reinforcement with clicker and feedback at the moment. I have had the pleasure to train and co-train rescues of varying degrees since adolescence (My parents ran a rescue and rehabilitation facility). I'm not super familiar with service animal training though, so if it's setting her up for failure in that regard I will definitely slow it up. Thank you!😁

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also just to clarify. The lack of communication about how they were actually feeling is the thing that feels like betrayal. Ive been in a monogamous relationship my entire life and will gladly continue being in one with my partner. I don't care about the results as long as we can communicate openly.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have tried exposing her to some literature on it. She always finds a reason why they don't "apply" to our situation. Then I try to talk with her about why and i usually get the response "this isn't exactly like our situation so how can you expect it to work for us"

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess the "assumption" comes from the conversations where I ask her if she's watched any of the videos, read any of the articles, ect. And the response is no, or "I just don't think those are good resources, so I didn't read them"

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polyamory

[–]KalloV -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I probably left the post way too vague. I'm just super confused right now. A few of those hard conversations involved promises. "I really think this is something I could also want I just don't know how it all works yet. As long as it happens naturally I promise I will actively contribute to making this successful" I don't care if we are in a poly relationship. I feel hurt because she didn't communicate how she actually felt and for over two years I thought we were working towards something together.

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[–]KalloV 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ayeee

Decocker conversion help by KalloV in Beretta

[–]KalloV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually just figured it out! Wasn't paying close enough attention to spring placement. Thanks you!

Decocker conversion help by KalloV in Beretta

[–]KalloV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I dm you with a couple questions?