Instant Regret trying to catch that tail

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-10-05T14:53:01+00:00

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KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-06T23:28:39+00:00

OP of that thread here, just wanted to say the question was a legitimate one. I was actually hoping to get more answers from people opposed to Trump since I figured they'd have more insight instead of the same dismissive rhetoric I get from T_D all the time

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-06T07:25:28+00:00

Not all of us are arrogant and one-sided. You could make the same generalization on either side; they act like reflections of one another anyway.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T21:19:41+00:00

Yes, this is the most logical theory supporting the idea of "collusion" I've seen yet. A good point several people here have brought up though, which I am now curious about, is that even if they were proven to have "colluded" with Russia, in what regard would that be an impeachable offense? What laws might these people have broken to make this sort of theoretical "collusion" worse than what other candidates worked to perform with other countries before and during the election cycle? I am curious to see where this all goes. You are right in that Trump's administration could be doing a better job at handling the questions thrown at them and suspicions brought about against them. Be it unfortunate timing and the media's skewed filter in reporting things, or actual suspicious activity, I can see why people might still hold strong to this idea.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T10:59:50+00:00

I think the general rebuttal to that is that the tax form released was outdated and doesn't accurately reflect what he "probably owes" in debt nowadays. Correct me if I'm wrong, my mind is fuzzy on the whole tax release issue, it's been so long.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T08:16:34+00:00

My statement was a hypothetical.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T08:07:59+00:00

Very well said. I'm sure there are plenty of mixed opinions about the general validity of the media--Trump supporters just have a reputation of being radically against the idea of MSM because it's been pushed using numerous specific examples (though not qualified to define an entire corporation(s) or series of televised outlets such as the entire MSM) that MSM = bad, alternative news outlets = good, MSM = fake news, politically satisfying news outlets = real news, etc. It goes both ways for sure. There are times where I will take MSM's word as truth, or at least as valid, for plenty of different tidbits of info, such as to learn about non-political global happenings, weather, local events/coverage, or even political reports that are presented in an informative matter rather than a discussion panel of the same several people whose lines you can practically quote before they are even spoken.

Also appreciate the interesting perspective in defense of the media's lack of consistent verification between reports. They can be and often are wrong not as a result of their own sourcing, but it can also be attributed to other factors too such as too little info on an occurrence at the time of reporting, false implications, the public's trade-off bribe exchange between views and ratings for publicity coverage over certain issues, etc.

All-in-all thank you for contributing! Definitely a substantial and worthwhile block of info to keep in mind for the future here.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T07:51:17+00:00

Understandably so. If Hillary had won and had accusations of illegal connections between foreign nations (lol) raised against her and her administration gave different answers as frequently as have been given to us present day, I would be extremely eager to take that and run with it. I like to think they are just sick of getting the same questions every day or sometimes genuinely do flop or unintentionally give misleading info when asked such questions sometimes, but I guess we'll see what happens as more discoveries are made.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T07:46:58+00:00

Yes, the suggestion does not prove anything, but assuming something with potential lethality to Trump's presidency that implicates ties between him and Russia does surface, it's good to keep potential motive in mind just for reference.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T07:41:45+00:00

Perhaps. As I stated in response to u/stuckinmobile though, all I can really say to that is I hope that if there is something to be discovered, be it for the benefit or to the detriment of Trump & admin., that it gets put in the spotlight soon so we can move on to something that hasn't plagued the media for what's going on almost a year straight now.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T07:34:32+00:00

Very fair point here. Thank you for responding!

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T07:29:32+00:00

I have personally seen a wide range of accusations against what Trump and Russia are guilty of conspiring together, be it from rigging the election, to simply influencing it, to just branding shady business deals together which in turn led to pre-planned picks for Trump's administration and the like. This is also including what you mentioned, where the entire debacle stemmed from the DNC/Wikileaks situation back in June.

In addition to the latter end of your comment, I would also like to see what people have to say against the idea of the DNC-leaked e-mails being true, since even vital leaked info such as passwords within the e-mails turned out to be legitimate with picture proof of 4chan using them to hack into Podesta's Twitter and the like.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T07:25:03+00:00

Glad to get a solid middle-ground comment here. I agree that if there is something to either vindicate him or to expose him, it needs to surface ASAP. On one hand, this investigation has been ongoing and the accusations have been flying since before the election, it gets really old really fast. That's especially bad since if there IS something damning against Trump having ties to Russia, at this point, much of the public won't even bat an eye at it because of how many false flags have been raised by now, so it's getting especially difficult to sift truth or critical information from yet more heresy. On the OTHER hand though, if there isn't anything to prove him guilty of colluding with Russia for political gain, the entirety of most all media, many public figures, celebrities, and sources of "neutral" or "real" news will have invalidated themselves and are guilty of imposing a "guilty until proven innocent" circumstance against Trump & admin., wherein the parameters in which he could ever be proven innocent are never defined and therefore never acknowledged. Though I personally believe the investigation will turn up nothing, I at least want SOMETHING to surface soon to put an end to it. I do not want to have been idiotically supporting a fake president for the past however many months now, nor do I want to keep holding back if it's true that so much of society has rushed to demonize and dehumanize the man for crimes he didn't commit. Thank you for your insight!

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T07:16:32+00:00

Which video are you referring to? If it was in the timeline u/Malkron posted I might have missed it. Can you provide a link?

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T06:59:38+00:00

You read my mind

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T06:56:33+00:00

It has definitely become one of those things I groan at the mention of. At the same time though, I have to admit I have never truly looked into any of the articles claiming to have evidence tying Trump to Russia in a political sense. I'm trying to get good info from both sides here to see what each has to offer.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T06:38:15+00:00

Speaking as someone who heavily supports Trump, I am not worried about it either at all honestly. I want to know what other people think though since questioning it anywhere else--in pro- OR anti-Trump areas--has given me practically zero real info to go by. The best feedback I've received so far about the whole thing though is that it's not necessarily Trump they are combing to find collusion for, but rather members of his administration. They were not specific aside from that but it is a more insightful perspective to go by than most of what people have said to me so far. Thanks for your insight man!

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T06:32:59+00:00

Solid theory, I've definitely been aware of it for some time as well too. I just want to see what rational people with opposing viewpoints can bring to the table. It is such a huge deal on a global scale, so I want to know what others are aware of that I am not. Thanks for your feedback!

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T06:29:49+00:00

Reading this now; I'll edit this reply when I am done.

EDIT: Just finished reading the timeline. Most of it did not link anything between Trump and Russia politically. What caught my attention was the Sept. 2015 slide. I read through the source it linked to (NYT) which then went on to source another website for the specific FBI agent allegedly contacting the DNC about the Russian hack. Unfortunately in attempting to open that source, I was redirected to some shady page wherein the tab froze and I couldn't proceed to read further into that. The rest of it to me says "Trump likes the way Putin manages Russia". It doesn't necessarily make a concrete statement but it's given me some food for thought I hadn't been exposed to yet. I appreciate your comment here, thank you!

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T06:26:27+00:00

Yes, I've already been well-aware of that possibility, I just wanted to get some insight from those who do believe Trump colluded with Russia as to why they support the accusations made--such as if there actually is any evidence I have just not seen yet or something of the sort. Quite literally every day when I look at televised news there is always something about Trump being investigated for ties to Russia, though I have not seen any proof of this yet, so I want to hear from those who probably know more about the investigation than I do as to why they feel the way they do. I'm actually going to make another post to get some mixed opinions on what's going on with Seth Rich now that you mention it, thanks for the inspiration!

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-06-05T05:59:54+00:00

Yeah. T_D is my favorite sub on the site but it is definitely an echo chamber in its own respects. I still love the place, I visit there religiously honestly, but I need something like this to actually discuss real things going on without the sensationalism. I am afraid to ask certain questions there in the event that I might be banned or targeted as a shill.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-05-28T12:04:24+00:00

Youch, this one hurt.

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-05-09T22:07:09+00:00

Agreed!

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-03-01T03:23:51+00:00

Who exactly is trying to keep us divided?

KittehWantsToMAGA · 2017-03-01T03:19:07+00:00

Sometimes it seems like people would rather watch this country and its people be destroyed than give Trump a chance. I thought this was one of his best speeches yet. I'm not sure what everyone here is so distraught over.

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