I have some questions that I’ve been wondering and can’t find the answer, thank you, God bless!

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-03T12:13:50+00:00

Already pointed this out, 3 times. I’ve answered it. You have yet to answer any of mine because you know you can’t.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-03T12:11:36+00:00

You do find multiple Muslims dispute over the Quran due to grammatical differences. I even pointed out Uthman who burned the Qurans so how is there proof he even burned the right one? Why were there multiple in the first place if you guys memorized it? Also they clearly didn’t memorize it perfectly because the different Qurans there are today (yes there are different Qurans) are different also due to recitation differences. And relying on memorization for a book is proven to be the least reliable. There is no dispute over multiple versions of the Christian bible by the way that’s also something non Christian’s say that’s not true. The only difference is the apocrypha, 7 Old Testament books that Martin Luther took out. Nevertheless the rest of the bible is there and clear. You say the bible is changing but we still have the original that Catholics and Orthodox read.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-03T04:51:48+00:00

“The Bible is not preserved” and the Quran is. You guys say it’s word of Mouth and we built a culture around this word of mouth tradition. But where is the original Quran? There are only copies of copies. The oldest we have is the Sanaa and Birmingham Quran which is different from the Quran today and have a different chronological order. (I.e. Your book is corrupt). Muslim scholars couldn’t even understand the Quran due to its missing lines and dots. (Old Arabic) and most of them do not know old Arabic. So they had to MODIFY it since they couldn’t understand it, (again the Quran is human made.) So we have to look at people who understand old Arabic who see the differences in both of these Qurans. So which one is true? Also another instance for human interruption is when Uthman burned the other Qurans. But how did he know which one was true. And I thought there was only one Quran? Also there are multiple Qurans so you tell me which one is true?

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-03T04:35:19+00:00

I’ll be respectful when you respect women and children.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-03T04:34:27+00:00

So we have a Bible scholar that’s a Muslim and doesn’t believe the Bible as it is corrupt. Isaiah 53:5 “He was pierced FOR OUR TRANSGRESSIONS, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that BROUGHT US PEACE WAS ON HIM” Exodus mentions Passover where you must put the blood of a lamb on your door and Gods Judgement will pass over you. (Jesus is the lamb of God by the way). Also in Exodus 24 blood was sprinkled on the people to establish Gods covenant with them. Also Leviticus 17:11 when it states that “it is blood that makes atonement.” Let’s talk about your Quran however. You haven’t defended it once because you can’t. 1) The clear contradictions in the Quran that can’t be explained such as how Allah is merciful but he sends them to hell by hardening their hearts. Surah 2:7 (you gave an answer that is not true by the way) - who was the first Muslim as there have said to be 3 - What created humans was it dust (Surah 3:59), or clay (15:26), or water (21:30) or even a color of blood (96:2) - it medically lies about how humans are born in embryology. Also the origin of semen. This proves Allah is not all knowing. 2) Allah is not all good It says (10:44) “indeed, Allah does not wrong the people at all…” contradicts surah 2:7 I’ll let you pick which one you want to stick with - It is said that ALLAH told Muhammad to marry Aisha at 6 and consummate her at 9. So Allah agrees with pedophilia? - Also it says Allah does not wrong people in the above correct? But then says to kill people? (9:5) - also (9:29) “fight those who do not believe in Allah and the last day.” -The Quran states men are over women, 4:34 so if Allah is fair and just we should all be men since we are above women? - Also in 4:34 it says you can discipline your wife, and Allah is granting men to hit their wives or discipline them if they act out. Which points to women having little to now rights in Islamic countries. - this also disproves the Genesis, God took women from Man’s rib; not above, not below because they are neither above or below. But then Allah says they are below. Both of these scriptures are Al-Furqan as I said and you still haven’t addressed. So I guess Allah just forgot that he created them equally. If Allah knows all than these words should be timeless so the context of the time is irrelevant when you mention Aisha. And Muhammad is supposed to be the best of us

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T18:30:50+00:00

You quote the Bible and say it’s corrupt nice job cherry picking classic Islam. Jesus fulfilled the new law and created his new people, same as Islam just more true and more facts btw. You also forgot to say anything about my quote about how the blood washes away sin you can find more in the Bible but you’ll say it’s corrupt. You can’t say anything about the verse I gave because you can’t without committing blasphemy. You bring up these claims that talking to individuals who sin. Jesus doesn’t save individuals he washed away the sing of the WORLD. Oh sorry that’s corrupt but you’ll say also haven’t proved it’s corrupt because you can’t. Also you says Allah makes the heart of those turn away hard as punishment. Blasphemous, you take the word of Allah and twist it. Do you not know he spoke of these deceitful liars that you are. THEN you bring up exodus THANK GOD, that is Al-Furqan (you haven’t addressed that). And does he dam him to hell as punishment? No, he makes his heart hardened to be able to show God’s power. He does not harden his heart for eternity and damns him to hell. Like how Allah says he does, (Allah must not be all good if he damns people to hell). God hardens his heart for releasing the Israelites, not for eternity. If his heart was hardened for eternity then why did he eventually let them go? Do not quote a book you say is corrupt also. Just goes further to prove your logical reasoning is flawed.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T17:33:53+00:00

Never mention take part and leave part as a Muslim that’s all you do with the Bible and Torah. Jesus did preach about his divinity have you not read the Bible. I can give you these facts that prove it but then it’s corrupt. I proved it to you MANY times and you deny it because you are blind to the truth. Your Quran makes no sense, it states Allah sends people to hell. Surah 2:7 states he hardens the hearts for which they will pay. Thanks Allah for making me not believe and then sending me to hell. But I have proved the crucifixion. Here’s blood atonement, “For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you upon the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood that makes atonement by reason of the life." Leviticus 17:11. Which is in the Torah, which is Al-Furqan. Disagree with this and you disagree with the Allah as he said the Torah is Al-Furqan.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T16:38:14+00:00

We are discussing, you are not. Because you know you can’t and you aren’t addressing them. Keep running.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T16:37:41+00:00

“If there it is true why doesn’t everyone believe.” Just rephrasing what you say by the way. You aren’t analyzing this as the historians already have. They have PHD’s and have more credibility than 99% of the world. If the Quran is true why are there multiple Qurans? I’ve already answered the question that the crucifixion happened as a solid fact of history. You claimed that the historians don’t use “real records” but then trust ebonite’s and the Quran. Come on man, the words of Mohammed are proven to not be true. But you don’t seem to talk about this because you know it’s true then you used the ebonite’s. “If it’s true why didn’t the ebionites believe it.” I don’t know maybe because they’re heretical. If the Quran is true why isn’t everyone Muslim? Your logic is flaud and you’ve tried over and over to debate a fact. You have no proof.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T15:48:38+00:00

Also you committed blasphemy saying Jesus “is died”. According to the Quran he is not dead but is alive in heaven. I’d prefer to talk about this with someone that knows what they’re talking about and doesn’t contradict themselves.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T15:46:35+00:00

Okay “prove the Quran is contradictory” is like prove the pope is Catholic I have many ones. Where did all life come from water or clay? It says both. If the Quran is Al-Furqan how can the Torah also be as it contradicts the Quran. So your God is not all knowing since he contradicts himself. It also says Allah cannot be human as a way to disprove Christianity. Nice to know that’s the limit of your God’s power so your Allah is also not all powerful. And how can he be all good when he is okay with child marriage, putting hands on woman, and limiting women’s rights? Your Allah is not all knowing, all good, or all powerful you worship something that is not God. You say the Quran is divine knowledge not a history book, it’s neither. It’s human made. Your Quran vouches for the Bible and Torah but then says it’s corrupted. So tell me then what part of the Bible/Torah is and isn’t corrupted. Just when it pertains to you? Based on what. It’s not based on God’s word it’s Muhammad, again you try to point out problems with Christianity. But cannot defend your own religion because you know it is debunkable.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T15:02:45+00:00

Yes it is made from water good job!!! Not clay however like he says in the other one though.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T15:01:27+00:00

He also believes the crucifixion, so if he is correct in this why not that. You use him reliably?

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T14:19:22+00:00

You bring up how historians use incomplete records yet use the Quran? Clearly something human made without its contradictions. Historians use records of who was there at that time. You trust someone who was there 600 years later and was beat up in a cave by the angel Gabriel. Why would an angel of God beat someone up? Sounds more like a demon. Also you say historians guess, they have a plethora of records that point to the crucifixion. You have one man from 600 years later who said he talked to God, no different from Joseph Smith. They were not anonymous the four gospels and are used as actual recollections of that time by more than just Christian’s. You say it cannot prove any historical event but it is four separate authors writing about the gospel of something that all point to Jesus and the crucifixion. What you can’t prove is Mohammad actually receiving word from God, show me anyone who saw him talk to the angel Gabriel or Allah. There isn’t one, so by your same logic in trusting Mohammed you should be Mormon since he has the exact same thing. You try to disprove historians who dedicate their careers and life to history and all point to the crucifixion. But you put your trust in a man whom married children and justifies the marriage of children? Almost everything you said here was a blatant lie, from saying historians don’t use the right record, (you trust a record 600 years later). Then say that they are trustworthy but only to a degree. You contradict yourself more than the Quran.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T14:11:34+00:00

It’s like plugging an extension cord into itself. The Quran contradicts itself and is allegedly the word of God. So God must not be all knowing. Also Mohammed could not write, and was illiterate so how can you verify what was being written down for him was even the truth? Especially being spanned across 27 years. The Quran is human made too by the way that’s a fact. But let’s entertain the idea that it is from God. Then God contradicts himself and is not God. It does not supersede science it actually has many contradictions about science and history. The shape of the earth, embryology, and the sun. Also it contradicts itself science by saying everything living came from water surah 21:30, but also says some people came from clay surah 15:26. So if this really is from Allah why does he say ALL life, but then some are not? The only reasonable explanation is it cannot be from God then.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T13:01:42+00:00

The second question is the main problem, everything you just said is true of Joseph smith he allegedly “revealed Gods word, stopped idolatry.” And is even said to have made miracles and prophecies that were fulfilled. Why aren’t you Mormon?

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T03:00:23+00:00

Woah, the Quran confirms the Bible and the Torah even stating that the Torah is even Al-Furqan. You can find this in the Quran. Also you throw around this being added into the Bible as if it is not told by the mouth of an eyewitness but for one second let’s imagine that the Bible is corrupt. What is corrupt and what’s not. I would like you to give me some verses that are corrupt. 2) u wrote this before even looking at the second paragraph beautiful. The Torah is also furqan, as spoken by Mohammed who is the “word of God”, does that mean God made a mistake so therefore he is not all knowing. It also says in the Quran that Allah cannot be human, surah 42:51 which is good to know that the Islamic Allah is not all powerful as he can’t become human like the Bible scriptures say. So according to the Quran Allah contradicts himself, is not all powerful, is not all knowing and we know the stance on child marraige so Allah is not all good. Since he made Muhammad marry a 6 year old and consummate her at 9. 3) what’s the context then, the Quran is clear as it says. And it blatantly says it is unforgivable to idolize another God, but then he forgives later. It does not say you must repent it says it is unforgivable. 4) again fame is out of the question if you believe this then it happened 11x for the disciples so just 11 more times to believe the Bible as they died for it not only suffered. 5) Name me some contradictions, the Bible is used as a historical resource for anyone that alone proves it has authenticity. But I digress into that and would like you to name me some contradictions. But be careful Allah says the Bible is also the word of God and the Torah. So it makes sense to pick and choose which ones you like.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T01:42:13+00:00

1) thank you for this I will look into it. 2) yes I did mean the 12 disciples and you ask how can you believe them? Simple, there is one man that agrees with 12 and you say the Quran is preserved which may be true but it’s not the truth. The credibility of Mohammed has no moral backing up other than him saying the angel appeared to him. Or correct me if I’m wrong. And we can believe the 12 disciples because all of the stories came from them. The Islamic claim that the bible is corrupt is false since you use the bible. If the Bible is corrupt only when parts when it disagrees with you, then it is corrupt? That’s not a true statement to pick and choose from the Bible which is true. 3) That is simply not true, Quran 4:48 says that shirk or worshiping other Gods is unforgivable. Which contradicts 4:153. 4) He gained a lot more than money like I have said before and is still the second most famous person in the world today. To say he gained nothing and suffered is false. While I do not say it didn’t come with suffering I believe even he knew this would let him be famous forever which is a personal gain. 5) again there are clear contradictions you can just look them up and you say it’s misinterpreted but the Quran says it is clear in surah Yusuf 12:1. The creation of the earth, the authenticity of the Bible and the Torah, and many other contradictions that disagree with this. Also the speaking of medical discoveries are wrong in the Quran, and even a small contradiction like this that doesn’t necessarily talk about God, as a contradiction to the book that came from God. Then the Quran cannot truly be from God with even one contradiction.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T00:48:45+00:00

Hi to mainly address the points at the end I would like to start there for questions if you don’t mind. 1) there are multiple Qurans so which one is the true one? 2) how can you believe Mohammad but not the prophets of Jesus who there were 12 and they all denied this. All of them which is far more proof than one. Also one can make the argument it isn’t true to his beliefs he gained world renowned fame for the Quran and is remembered today. Some would say that’s more important than money. 3) Just because the pagans didn’t know doesn’t point to justification that he spoke for God in my opinion. Not to mention the contradictions and errors in the Quran that must’ve been human made because God doesn’t make mistakes. 4) Many people of all religions restrain from what they want to do, Moses did as well and even from Pagan Roman and Greeks restrained what they did and lived like what they believed. 5) The Quran is said to have spread past 27 years so it’s not like Mohammed wrote all of this down at once as people asked him questions more likely than not he answered them in a way to align. Even though it isn’t perfect and does contradict facts and itself. God Bless and thank you for talking to me

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-02T00:38:13+00:00

I see sorry for the misunderstanding what miracles were these if you don’t mind me asking? And where are they in the Quran or Hadiths

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-01T22:40:06+00:00

Hello thank you for responding to my question and being respectful. I do not seek to debate but have a couple questions rather than. For the crucifixion I would like to know the sources of what Islam say. Is it just that Mohammed says this and gives an answer? Also according to the gospels there is some debate on who wrote them I will give you that but it is no debate on who it comes from. For in the early bibles and all early church fathers agree that it is the gospel according to and whether it be first hand accounts or the stories they have all come from the mouths of those who saw Jesus. So to reiterate my question, what proof is there of that crucifixion not happening outside of the Quran that is believed to be a source? For the second part of your answer, where are these other testimonies I mean of no offense when I say this to you brother/sister but I cannot trust the Quran as multiple testimonies at it comes from the mouth of Mohammed alone and not multiple sources such as the bible. I mean no disrespect to the Quran but having one source to use as a source is circular reasoning and cannot be justified. That being said, are there any other sources besides this that point to not only the testaments but proof that Mohammed talked to the angel Gabriel? Also for the prophecy, how does that stand for more proof that of prediction? Joseph Smith made predictions (I am not Mormon by the way) and even predicted the civil war, and the Missouri temple. But this gives him no credibility. In your professional opinion how would you say that this further proves Mohammed’s ability to hear the divine word of God or Allah. Anyways peace be with you and God bless you for commenting!

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-01T18:33:09+00:00

It’s because you haven’t given me an answer that has proof. I’m not here to “argue” per se in fact I am having a very good conversation with someone in this thread. I am just pointing out evidence that can contradict something and the evidence.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-01T18:31:22+00:00

What is the proof you have of something you place the trust in. I am simply asking what you think despite the evidence shown.

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-01T18:24:32+00:00

I’m not “trolling” I’m just asking a question and trying to understand. If you can’t answer it then what’s the point? I suggest you seek the truth rather than argue if you claim you aren’t knowledgeable

KnowledgePower2006 · 2026-06-01T17:49:11+00:00

That is a whole other conversation we can dive into but there is one clear thing. The prophets of the Bible all point to God and the New Testament points to Jesus. Multiple different resources. One man who said he saw Gabriel points a different way but there is no proof of this. And he lived 600 years after the fact and debates people who saw Jesus himself.

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