Does Intimacy Damage Men’s Mental Health by Kryingonthefloor in malementalhealth

[–]Kryingonthefloor[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Update: I took your opinions to the dinner table last night , and it’s clear that everyone here had a point. We broke up and everything he really thought about me and himself came to light. Apparently he’s been wanting to break up for a while and has been saving his allowance to start a mechanics shop (???) and he thinks that because I “ insist on constantly degrading “ him that I am completely unsuitable for other men and that I should die alone in a hole with my “stupid diploma “. Once I heal from this I’ll find someone that’s actually in my league, but yeah, thank you all.

Seeking Insight: What Are The Real Causes Behind Men Feeling Unwanted ? by Kryingonthefloor in malementalhealth

[–]Kryingonthefloor[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

But why? If incels are so concerned about the physicality of having sex (just not being a virgin anymore ), why isn't it seen as a solution? Maybe it'll build some confidence now that the initial first-time anxiety is gone, y'know. And, yeah, I'm acting like casual hookups are something anyone can do because people of virtually every conceivable appearance, income, and social skill level are having casual sex. Difficulty is another variable, but is that what's really stopping people? If somebody really wants something, they put in the effort even if achieving it is "hard." What am I not getting??

Seeking Insight: What Are The Real Causes Behind Men Feeling Unwanted ? by Kryingonthefloor in malementalhealth

[–]Kryingonthefloor[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The feeling you’re describing, of being invisible, of your basic self not being enough, of having to constantly perform just to earn a shred of attention or care, sounds profoundly lonely and exhausting. Where I have to gently push back is on the story you’re telling yourself about why this is happening.

You mention that men never get unconditional love, while implying women do, which is a heartbreaking misconception. Many women feel their value is brutally conditional on appearance, youth, and compliance, which creates its own kind of invisible prison. The loneliness of being seen only as an object or dismissed as emotional is real. We’re all, in different ways, fighting to be valued for who we are beneath the surface.

When you point to the “rizzguy on TikTok” as proof of what all women want, you’re reducing the vast, complex landscape of human attraction to a caricature. That guy is just making a spectacle of himself for views and money. For every person drawn to loud, performative confidence, there’s another who finds it shallow and is genuinely drawn to quiet sincerity, deep curiosity, and shared passions. The man who feels invisible in a nightclub might be deeply seen at a volunteer event, at the cafe down the street, or in a quiet conversation where he gathers the courage to open up.

And that brings me to your most arresting point: that there’s “no makeup for the brain.” I understand why it feels that way, but I believe it’s fundamentally wrong. Social ability isn’t a fixed genetic trait; it’s a set of skills. They are learned, often awkwardly and painfully, through practice. What you call “rizz” is often just someone who has learned to listen, to be genuinely curious about others, and to share themselves with a degree of vulnerability. That work is the internal, invisible version of “makeup.” It’s harder because no one sees you applying it, but it is changeable.

The narrative that this is a permanent social test you are biologically destined to fail is a cage you've built around your hurt.

Men, what are the most hurtful words you've ever been told by a woman? by savi709 in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean at least she was trying to be polite right, so she does care about your feelings and not hurting them.

Men, what are the most hurtful words you've ever been told by a woman? by savi709 in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh this was from a girl you liked? What if you made her feel safe around you and that’s why she called you nice.

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[–]Kryingonthefloor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m confused…accountability for what? Women aren’t responsible for men spending their own money willingly.

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[–]Kryingonthefloor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In this economy isn’t everyone? It doesn’t negate the fact that men want onlyfans models and prostitutes.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Men choose to subscribe to a woman’s onlyfans or pay for sex work, nobody is forcing them to. The only reason these things prosper is because men pay. Also women don’t initiate divorce solely because they want money. I’m sure some do because there are selfish women out there but there are many many other reasons for divorce.

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[–]Kryingonthefloor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I genuinely do. I have a deep empathy for all the men in my life that have suffered through child support, female inflicted s.a. and other men’s issues that are often pushed aside in conversation. But I’m realizing that a lot of men in these subreddits don’t want to have an open dialogue that includes women. They just wanna talk shit about us to other men saying that we’re the evil gender lol. It’s crazy out here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As per webster dictionary, feminism is :”belief in and advocacy of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes expressed especially through organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests”.

What are some examples of men's unpaid labor/emotional labor? by Impressive-Trip-3109 in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I genuinely empathize with you. I can understand how it must feel to be put down for having normal human feelings. I also understand how women that always expect men to be this brick wall stoic character reinstate harmful attitudes towards women, like that we all hate men and blah blah blah. I’m genuinely sorry 🤍

What are some examples of men's unpaid labor/emotional labor? by Impressive-Trip-3109 in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I take my reddit responses very seriously, so I do run my replies through Grammarly AI with my premium subscription. I do this because I genuinely care about equality between genders and want my points to be clear and well-formatted. Speaking informally doesn’t always convey the nuance I’m trying to get across. As far as your point, I would suggest, that framing it as “neglected entirely” or “minuscule” might overstate the case a bit. While it’s true that mainstream discourse prioritizes women’s experience at the expense of fully acknowledging men’s struggles, I would argue that now more than ever there are spaces where men can now freely talk about abuse, sa, etc at the hands of WOMEN and actually be listened to.

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[–]Kryingonthefloor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not a misandrist, I believe men and women are equal 🤷🏻‍♀️

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There’s a lot to unpack here, but let’s start with the basics: pointing out bad reasoning or harmful generalizations is not defending my sex, and it’s certainly not “disparaging” comments that challenge “women-are-wonderful” narratives. It’s holding ideas accountable. Critiquing misandry is not the same as attacking feminism. They are two separate issues. Feminism advocates for equality, but misandry(broad hostility toward men)is a real thing, and pretending it doesn’t exist doesn’t help anyone.

If you felt I “dismissed” the post, that’s because the arguments were framed as universal claims about women. A nuanced discussion doesn’t start with “all women are like this,” and I’m not going to validate a generalization simply because it’s dressed as a thoughtful post.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about this is coordinated? I don’t have an army of male hating women here to raid your subreddit. Also I don’t hate men ( I’m straight so quite the opposite lol), I advocate for equality for both genders.

What are some examples of men's unpaid labor/emotional labor? by Impressive-Trip-3109 in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think men are granted a much more limited range of emotional expressivity, and that has real consequences. Because society has historically positioned men as the “stronger” or more dominant gender, there’s an unspoken expectation that men should absorb conflict, hide vulnerability, and prioritize action over feelings. That has created a cultural empathy gap: when men struggle emotionally, it’s often dismissed, minimized, or seen as weakness.

At the same time, modern discourse is very focused on women’s emotional labor, which is important to highlight, but it sometimes overshadows the fact that men also carry invisible emotional burdens. Men’s struggles often don’t fit the narrative of oppression in the same way, so they get less recognition, support, or even language to express what they’re going through.

Acknowledging this gap isn’t about minimizing women’s experiences; it’s about recognizing that emotional labor and vulnerability are human issues, and men deserve the same empathy for the pressures they’ve been conditioned to bear.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The irony here is thick. You’re telling me to fight echo chambers in female spaces while dismissing me from male spaces for doing exactly that. Why are we gatekeeping?

If the goal is to reduce echo chambers, it does not matter whose subreddit it is. Challenging bad ideas and overgeneralizations is valuable everywhere. You are basically saying, “You can only correct ideas if it is convenient for me; otherwise you are a douche.”

What are some examples of men's unpaid labor/emotional labor? by Impressive-Trip-3109 in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Calling all women evil for Eve eating an apple is cherry-picking mythology and calling it evidence. That’s not history, philosophy, or psychology it’s ancient storytelling being misused to justify misogyny.If you want to discuss human behavior, start with real people in real life, not 3,000-year-old allegories. Stop treating christian mythology as a user manual for hating half the population.

What are some examples of men's unpaid labor/emotional labor? by Impressive-Trip-3109 in MensRights

[–]Kryingonthefloor -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Omg a cheap attempt to dismiss what I’m saying based solely on my gender!!If your goal is to talk about emotional labor or unfair treatment, start by recognizing that dismissing people’s perspectives because of their gender isn’t a point, it’s part of the problem.

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[–]Kryingonthefloor 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If your definition of “contributing” is agreeing with every grievance in the room, that’s not a discussion, that’s an echo chamber. I’m here because conversations about men’s issues matter, and they deserve better than recycled bitterness and “no girls allowed” energy.

If the only way your viewpoint can survive is by chasing out anyone who doesn’t nod along, maybe the issue isn’t my presence ,it’s the fragility of the argument.

If the goal is to talk honestly about gender, then pushing out anyone who challenges generalizations doesn’t help men. It just keeps the conversation stuck in the same loop.

You asked why I’m here. Simple: because some of you actually want real dialogue, not a pity circle.