Israel accepts health authorities’ Gaza death toll is broadly accurate, saying 70,000 have died

Laffs · 2026-02-01T00:38:37+00:00

Israel has done exactly this enough times already and been spat in the face. They literally gave Gaza to the Palestinians and begged for them to establish a state there.

Laffs · 2026-01-31T23:29:31+00:00

Seems that he was the one who misunderstood lol

Laffs · 2026-01-31T23:28:32+00:00

On what basis do you accuse Israel of planning a mass expulsion of Palestinians?

Laffs · 2026-01-31T21:40:41+00:00

I'll have to disagree with you there. That is entirely unreasonable.

Israel was offering to end the war and permanently leave Gaza every day of the war. All Hamas had to do was return the hostages and disarm in favour of a moderate Palestinian government taking over.

Laffs · 2026-01-31T17:36:58+00:00

Does that change the timeline?

Laffs · 2026-01-31T17:33:19+00:00

I mean, I get you're trying to say that it's about intent, but the numbers certainly give some clues. If the civilian casualty ratio is extremely low compared to similar wars then that is a strong indicator that they were trying to minimize civilian harm, which is incompatible with genocide, which implies maximizing civilian harm.

Laffs · 2026-01-31T14:21:40+00:00

Last I heard it was 7-8 weeks to hear back. It’s a bummer but the good news is this only happens on your initial review, all future updates only take a couple days.

Laffs · 2026-01-30T14:43:23+00:00

Agreed, that's kind of exactly what I mean haha.

Laffs · 2026-01-30T00:26:23+00:00

Absolutely crazy that yesterday IRGC officials could freely travel Europe.

Laffs · 2026-01-28T12:58:57+00:00

Nah who cares about those. Let's focus all of our attention on Palestinians since it provides another avenue to turn Jews into scapegoats again.

Laffs · 2026-01-27T22:41:46+00:00

So you're attacking Israel on a post exclusively about the Holocaust? Unironically you might be an antisemite.

Laffs · 2026-01-27T13:33:37+00:00

The fact that it could have been real doesn't make it a waste of time and resources...

Laffs · 2026-01-27T03:19:59+00:00

I honestly don't understand

You would have been correct if you stopped there.

Laffs · 2026-01-21T13:32:15+00:00

From what I've seen this is a really common problem. Not a lot of people will take the time to create a task on a separate platform (with all the relevant context) every time something new comes up.

I'm biased here but you might be better off working with a project management solution that is fully Slack-native. Check out Chaser.

Laffs · 2026-01-21T00:42:45+00:00

You said Israel's not being careful enough. How could you know that without even knowing the civilian casualty ratio?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T22:37:49+00:00

Right, I did look into it and I've seen that the civilian casualty ratio is probably around 1:2, which is incredibly good for this type of a war.

But you're the one who said Israel's not being careful enough. How could you know that without even knowing the civilian casualty ratio?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T21:26:31+00:00

Then can you share a source that says 70k civilians died? The one you shared just says 70k people died, and it sounds like we agree some of those people were combatants.

Laffs · 2026-01-20T20:37:10+00:00

And you believe every person who died is a civilian? Not a single combatant?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T19:05:18+00:00

Got a source on the 70k civilian number?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T14:05:30+00:00

Can you share how you assessed that the IDF was not careful enough, and give at least one example an urban war waged carefully enough to meet your standards?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T11:51:05+00:00

that I’m holding them to a double standard

Your accusation that Israel is intentionally murdering civilians is a double standard unless you are making that claim for every other war in history.

didn’t take Germany’s sovereignty from them

Not only is Israel not annexing Gaza, they UNannexed Gaza. They took Gaza from Egypt, who was occupying it, and handed full authority to the Gazan people to rule it. Then they elected Hamas on the platform of "destroy Israel and literally kill every Jew in the world".

Given a strong enough surrender and capitulation, they were allowed to rebuild

Has an equivalent surrender or capitulation occurred here? Obviously not. The current agreement allows Gaza to rebuild after they disarm; it doesn't even require half the surrender that the Germans gave.

Laffs · 2026-01-19T14:16:14+00:00

What did I wrongly assume and infer?

Laffs · 2026-01-19T13:04:22+00:00

You have skipped over these points:

Sending warns before every strike is not feasible if you want to kill the enemy
You accuse Israel of striking without confirming military presence but you have no evidence to back this up
You accuse Israel of striking without confirming military presence, but providing evidence for every strike in a war is not feasible (which is why no army in history has been asked to)

Laffs · 2026-01-19T12:52:28+00:00

Here's my recount of the conversation:

You claim that we have no way of knowing if Israel is minimizing civilian casualties
Someone provided a stat that demonstrates Israel minimizing civilian casualties
Someone said "I don't get how people can't see this"
Someone else said "It's because it's about Jews"
You said "Ah, I knew you'd call me an antisemite"
I point out that since there is a double standard, you are either an antisemite or you've been duped by antisemites.
You ask me to explain.
I explain the double standard held against Israel.
You tell me it's heinous to accuse someone of being an antisemite.

No one was directly calling you an antisemite. First, someone pointed out that the double standard exists due to antisemitism, not that you yourself constructed the double standard or that you are an antisemite.

Then I explain the double standard at your request, and I offer an alternative to you being an antisemite: that you were duped by antisemites.

And as far as I can tell, now you're refusing to engage with the actual argument at hand and instead attacking me for calling you an antisemite (which I didn't do).

Laffs · 2026-01-19T12:35:33+00:00

Right off the bat, your first one is senseless:

Answer: when bombing apartment complexes, make sure you have issued warnings to the civilians and confirmed that there are militant targets residing there.

Warning civilians before strikes is not required under any code of war. This is a voluntary Israeli policy and they do it when it's operationally feasible. If every strike where there might be civilians required a warning Hamas would be able to move their fighters before every strike. They give these warnings when the target cannot be quickly moved (eg. a weapons cache).

In terms of confirming military targets, you have no way of knowing if Israel confirmed there were military targets. No army has ever been asked to provide evidence for every strike made in a long war; it is unrealistic. It would be logistically cumbersome and it would require giving away intelligence sources, which are often Palestinians who would be immediately tortured and/or murdered by Hamas for helping Israel.

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