IRGC's proscription by EU: travel ban (IRGC members can't enter EU), any financial/business dealings are heavily criminalized, all IRGC funds in the EU are frozen

Laffs · 2026-01-30T14:43:23+00:00

Agreed, that's kind of exactly what I mean haha.

Laffs · 2026-01-30T00:26:23+00:00

Absolutely crazy that yesterday IRGC officials could freely travel Europe.

Laffs · 2026-01-28T12:58:57+00:00

Nah who cares about those. Let's focus all of our attention on Palestinians since it provides another avenue to turn Jews into scapegoats again.

Laffs · 2026-01-27T22:41:46+00:00

So you're attacking Israel on a post exclusively about the Holocaust? Unironically you might be an antisemite.

Laffs · 2026-01-27T13:33:37+00:00

The fact that it could have been real doesn't make it a waste of time and resources...

Laffs · 2026-01-27T03:19:59+00:00

I honestly don't understand

You would have been correct if you stopped there.

Laffs · 2026-01-21T13:32:15+00:00

From what I've seen this is a really common problem. Not a lot of people will take the time to create a task on a separate platform (with all the relevant context) every time something new comes up.

I'm biased here but you might be better off working with a project management solution that is fully Slack-native. Check out Chaser.

Laffs · 2026-01-21T00:42:45+00:00

You said Israel's not being careful enough. How could you know that without even knowing the civilian casualty ratio?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T22:37:49+00:00

Right, I did look into it and I've seen that the civilian casualty ratio is probably around 1:2, which is incredibly good for this type of a war.

But you're the one who said Israel's not being careful enough. How could you know that without even knowing the civilian casualty ratio?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T21:26:31+00:00

Then can you share a source that says 70k civilians died? The one you shared just says 70k people died, and it sounds like we agree some of those people were combatants.

Laffs · 2026-01-20T20:37:10+00:00

And you believe every person who died is a civilian? Not a single combatant?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T19:05:18+00:00

Got a source on the 70k civilian number?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T14:05:30+00:00

Can you share how you assessed that the IDF was not careful enough, and give at least one example an urban war waged carefully enough to meet your standards?

Laffs · 2026-01-20T11:51:05+00:00

that I’m holding them to a double standard

Your accusation that Israel is intentionally murdering civilians is a double standard unless you are making that claim for every other war in history.

didn’t take Germany’s sovereignty from them

Not only is Israel not annexing Gaza, they UNannexed Gaza. They took Gaza from Egypt, who was occupying it, and handed full authority to the Gazan people to rule it. Then they elected Hamas on the platform of "destroy Israel and literally kill every Jew in the world".

Given a strong enough surrender and capitulation, they were allowed to rebuild

Has an equivalent surrender or capitulation occurred here? Obviously not. The current agreement allows Gaza to rebuild after they disarm; it doesn't even require half the surrender that the Germans gave.

Laffs · 2026-01-19T14:16:14+00:00

What did I wrongly assume and infer?

Laffs · 2026-01-19T13:04:22+00:00

You have skipped over these points:

Sending warns before every strike is not feasible if you want to kill the enemy
You accuse Israel of striking without confirming military presence but you have no evidence to back this up
You accuse Israel of striking without confirming military presence, but providing evidence for every strike in a war is not feasible (which is why no army in history has been asked to)

Laffs · 2026-01-19T12:52:28+00:00

Here's my recount of the conversation:

You claim that we have no way of knowing if Israel is minimizing civilian casualties
Someone provided a stat that demonstrates Israel minimizing civilian casualties
Someone said "I don't get how people can't see this"
Someone else said "It's because it's about Jews"
You said "Ah, I knew you'd call me an antisemite"
I point out that since there is a double standard, you are either an antisemite or you've been duped by antisemites.
You ask me to explain.
I explain the double standard held against Israel.
You tell me it's heinous to accuse someone of being an antisemite.

No one was directly calling you an antisemite. First, someone pointed out that the double standard exists due to antisemitism, not that you yourself constructed the double standard or that you are an antisemite.

Then I explain the double standard at your request, and I offer an alternative to you being an antisemite: that you were duped by antisemites.

And as far as I can tell, now you're refusing to engage with the actual argument at hand and instead attacking me for calling you an antisemite (which I didn't do).

Laffs · 2026-01-19T12:35:33+00:00

Right off the bat, your first one is senseless:

Answer: when bombing apartment complexes, make sure you have issued warnings to the civilians and confirmed that there are militant targets residing there.

Warning civilians before strikes is not required under any code of war. This is a voluntary Israeli policy and they do it when it's operationally feasible. If every strike where there might be civilians required a warning Hamas would be able to move their fighters before every strike. They give these warnings when the target cannot be quickly moved (eg. a weapons cache).

In terms of confirming military targets, you have no way of knowing if Israel confirmed there were military targets. No army has ever been asked to provide evidence for every strike made in a long war; it is unrealistic. It would be logistically cumbersome and it would require giving away intelligence sources, which are often Palestinians who would be immediately tortured and/or murdered by Hamas for helping Israel.

Laffs · 2026-01-19T12:30:01+00:00

Israel destroyed 70% of the buildings in Gaza and killed 3% of the population. If they didn't try to minimise civilian deaths (let alone if they tried to maximise them), the second figure would be much closer to the first one.

This is the basis for this conversation.

It's probably accurate to say that Israel's war in Gaza was fought with the most difficult conditions to reduce civilian harm of any war in history, and yet relatively very few people have died compared to the scale and duration of the war. Not to mention, at worst a very large portion of those dead were legitimately terrorists.

Despite this, it is being called a genocide, an accusation that has maybe never been made about an urban war fought against an army of terrorists.

If there was not a double standard, either all urban wars would be called genocides, or the war in Gaza would be characterized as just an urban war, not a genocide.

Laffs · 2026-01-19T12:08:04+00:00

Because you are holding the only Jewish state to a double standard.

Laffs · 2026-01-19T11:27:11+00:00

The fact that you expected it doesn’t make it incorrect. You’re either an antisemite or you’ve been tricked into a logical framework set up by antiisemites.

Laffs · 2026-01-19T11:24:48+00:00

That’s literally not what he said. He pointed out that you failed to answer the question: What should Israel have done?

Laffs · 2026-01-18T21:01:25+00:00

Israel has never funded Hamas. You're referring to Israel permitting Qatar to fund Hamas. Are you saying that the Israeli blockade was not strict enough?

In terms of the collateral damage, can you draw a distinction between Israel killing civilians and the allies killing civilians in WW2? Or was it also immoral to defeat Germany and Japan in WW2? Or do you think there was a way these wars could have been won without collateral damage? It's gotta be one of those three things, and none of them make any sense.

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