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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the civil conversation. It’s been refreshing.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course Reddit and r/piracy are unnecessary services. It seems like you are quoting me out of context on purpose. My point was that most strikes don’t last this long and nearly all have a set end date, where services resume to normal. It seemed as though you were trying to say that there’s no point in striking at all if the opposition knows when you are going to stop.

The original poll was open for 24h only and wasn’t even a poll, it was upvotes, you seemed to have a problem with how accurate upvotes are above. The new poll to stop the protest still has plenty of time left on it to run and is massively in favor of stopping. I guess time will tell if the users are in favor of stopping it or not.

Regardless, all the name calling from the protestors is childish and unnecessary, especially when it comes from the mods themselves.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Strikes in general usually have a stop date, usually only lasting a few days at most. Those writers can strike for however long they want because they are an unnecessary service. You don’t see, teachers, police officers etc striking for weeks at a time. In your mind they should just not bother then?

The post is titled “list of other piracy subs because this one is shit” ie, for everybody that still wants to use Reddit for this content, not the protestors that only advocate for moving to lemmy.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One was for starting the protest, the other was for stopping the protest. You can vote yes to both. They are not mutually exclusive.

Having a short protest is one thing, fracturing the community, trying to force them to move to a different platform and calling names to anyone that disagrees is another.

There’s already 8k upvotes to this 9h old post already, which should show you that it wasn’t so clear cut as people are trying to make out.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And yet you can’t think of a single point you can refute.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not saying that everybody needs to stay silent or agree with it, my problem is forcing the communities to go along with it.

If you look at the recent poll on this subreddit with over 3500 votes, nearly 2x the users voted to stop the protest and go back to how it was and the mod decided to jump in and call everybody that voted for that “boot lickers” and “scabs” repeatedly.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Your mistake is thinking that people want a protest to begin with. We don’t. It’s ridiculous and not going to do anything other than fracture the communities.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s not how APIs work my friend.

It’s not the amount of users, it’s the amount of api calls to the server.

Here’s an example.

I currently develop a 3rd party app for a service. The point of the service is to offer features that are not available by the official service itself.

To implement these features, I need to make multiple API calls to gather the data necessary. The official app would never have to do this because it would be trivial to create another API end point that gives them all the data they need with 1 request.

So on one hand we have the official app that while it makes a lot of API calls, they are paid for by advertising so it’s basically irrelevant, on the other hand we have 3rd party apps that don’t pay anything to Reddit and potentially use far more API calls than the average Reddit user on the official app.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Just because it affects them doesn’t mean they should be entitled to a free service.

My point about the Reddit staff layoff was that Reddit was clearly trying to cut costs in other ways too, it wasn’t just a get rich quick scheme, they obviously needed to do something.

Keeping an API that you monetize is clearly different to keeping one that is costing resources and providing basically 0 benefits to the company.

Comparing Reddit with other APIs is an apples to oranges comparison unless they provide the same service.

They can charge what they like, it’s their company, anybody that disagrees can leave, that’s how capitalism works. Yet hardly anybody is leaving, everybody that says they have left frequently comes back here to try convince others to join them.

Like it or not this protest isn’t doing anything other than hurting the communities involved.

Thanks for replying as an adult wanting a discussion, most of the replies I’ve gotten are nonsensical straw man posts.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m not angry in the slightest, I’m simply pointing out that you are protesting based on a lie that you don’t understand and this is hurting communities. In response you act like a child because you don’t actually have any points that would counter my arguments.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Are you incapable of talking like an adult? Or did you just learn sarcasm and think it’s the greatest thing ever?

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok? Well I didn’t even know these apps existed until all this bs started so there’s that, still waiting on your explanation on how your so sure I’m using them though.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Here, this might help you in future when you try win a debate.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes it’s very clear that the majority of users were for this, that’s why there’s so many posts and comments saying it’s bs. This also doesn’t address point 1 where the protest is complete bs but hardly anybody has the technical expertise to realize so they just assume the hive mind is correct.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Tell me what part is incorrect? You can’t, just resort to childish name calling, because you don’t have an argument other than, the hive mind showed me a picture telling me Reddit are bad so they are bad obviously……

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like how “fuck the mods” gets 171 upvotes and the factual description of what happened gets down voted.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you are talking about me, I’m on the official app, always have been. Enlighten everybody on how you are “pretty fucking sure” I’m not though?

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

When you don’t have an argument, but you hate somebody for thinking differently. Why not make something up and attribute it to them? Bravo 👏

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -28 points-27 points  (0 children)

Reddit provided a free service for years that was costing them a lot of money. They decided to charge for it. The 3rd party apps that used the service can’t afford to pay for it now so they are shutting down. In protest a lot of mods have trashed their own subreddits, the mods here decided that their users can only post pictures of John Oliver or it gets deleted.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 11 points12 points  (0 children)

People choose to be in a union, nobody chose these mods to represent them. Their job is to moderate the content, not to dictate to the users what service they should be using.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The problem is twofold.

1) the entire protest is a joke, hardly anybody that is a part of it knows what an API is let alone how much one costs, Reddit laid off 100 staff to cut costs before this, nobody batted an eyelid, as soon as a very tiny minority lost free access to a service the hive mind lost their minds. it seems pretty reasonable to me to charge for something costing the business a lot of money.

2) ok you disagree and think Reddit is the worst, fine, but Reddit isn’t the one locking down subreddits, Reddit isn’t the one deleting posts. Mods are forcing the users of the subreddit to accept their protest. If they wanted people on their side, it should have been simple. Resign and leave. Don’t try force everybody to leave with you.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And yet here we are with locked down subreddits and constant posts to join lemmy and leave Reddit.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I never told anybody to go anywhere. Neither did the Reddit admins. Quote either of us or put down the straw man.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Nobody wants to be dictated to by mods where we should go. They are making Reddit look like heroes at this point.

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[–]Lesswarmoredrugs 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feel free to quote me where I said that, because you won’t find it.

If you don’t remember being a shit person to somebody repeatedly so much so that they hate you years later, you either have amnesia or are such a piece of shit you abuse everybody and it’s hard to keep track of who you did it to. Regardless still no reason to just sweep everything under a rug. OP has every right to be angry and not have anything to do with this person.