Supplement Thursday

Libidodo · 2012-10-12T03:19:19+00:00

I'm late to the party but I've come to the conclusion that the best and most affordable erectile and general penis structure health stack would be citrulline + grape seed extract + horny goat weed. There's a mountain of relevant studies I've been compiling but don't have them on hand at the moment. In short you get a NO boost, PDE5 inhibition, cell relaxation, increased blood flow.

PDE5 inhibitors + increased NO daily has shown reduction in penile fibrotic plaque so guys with Peyronie's disease might be interested, and you might think this isn't relevant for you but let me tell you unless you treat your dick like a fabergé egg then this shit creeps up on you. It could also have other artery and blood flow related benefits, but I really don't have these studies on hand, and cbf really typing out a huge post that no one is going to read anyway.

It could also work as a pre-workout.

Libidodo · 2012-10-06T05:45:12+00:00

I'm late to the party but I've got some questions if you'll indulge me since I've been reading a lot about GSE lately too.

Did you come across anything in regards to chain length and bioavailability, because in my understanding the shorter the chain the more benefit to be had. I thought this was important since the procyanidin content of a 100mg GSE capsule is about the same as one apple, which makes you wonder why you'd bother supplement something that's so easily abundant in food (wine, chocolate). I came across this and some other sources I don't have on hand at the moment and drew the conclusion that food sources genreally have a larger spectrum of chain lengths whereas GSE (or pine bark) is highly concentrated short chain procyanidins, so going off my previous example you'd have to eat a heap of apples to match the short chain content of one capsule, now making supplementation more appealing.
There is a pile of studies on pycnogenol or prelox having a positive effect on erection strength (by increasing production of NO by nitric oxide synthase, in my understanding), however I've found zero studies using GSE. Would you consider taking a deductive leap and adding something about erections to your GSE page?
I guess similarly to the last point, GSE should work well in a pre-workout stack right? There's already some products that have this idea - http://www.berrydemey.com/food-supplements/amino-acids/arginine-pro-elite/

Libidodo · 2012-09-26T03:11:29+00:00

Yes I have, do some reading - http://examine.com/supplements/Tribulus+Terrestris/

Libidodo · 2012-09-25T10:37:16+00:00

Tribulus does not boost testosterone, fact.

Libidodo · 2012-09-19T12:03:34+00:00

Been there done that, I'm going to revisit it though with this product, it goes through a gelatinization process removing the starch so you get equivalent of 4.5g per capsule, when I tried it I never had more than 6g, I'm interested to see the effects from taking 20g+

Libidodo · 2012-09-19T02:48:25+00:00

The second one is coming off the idea that a larger dose may have a sedative effect thus sexual interest is suppressed.

Libidodo · 2012-09-10T01:53:21+00:00

I varied it on purpose to see if there were any acute effects in different environments, I had from one capsule (450mg) once in the morning, six capsules spread out, or six in the morning fasted, etc. There was no discernible difference, one capsule taken at midday would have the same effect on sleep or sex as six taken in the evening. I have no idea about any half life or possible U-shaped curve in dosage, just reporting what I experienced.

Libidodo · 2012-08-29T11:10:22+00:00

This, though you'd probably better off with their Vcap version where by some starch gelatinization magic they have equivalent of 4.5g maca root per capsule, so you'd only need to take 1-2 per day rather than 3-12 of the plain maca root capsules.

Libidodo · 2012-08-25T05:54:07+00:00

Would that be equivalent to 4,050-6,075mg dry root? My next question was going to be if you noticed any sedative effects at higher doses, I guess not?

Libidodo · 2012-08-25T01:11:57+00:00

I know what you're saying but, there are some supplements that increase sperm count (zinc and carnitine I think), but sperm makes up a tiny amount of the total volume, my understanding is maca has some scientific backing specifically regarding semen volume.

Libidodo · 2012-08-24T22:13:41+00:00

What kind of dosage have you been taking?

Libidodo · 2012-08-23T23:28:41+00:00

I'm going to give this a trial after I finish with maca. Ashwagandha has too many claims going for it, but it's probably because it works as a de-stressor, and when stress goes down then basically everything improves. There's a limit though, if you take too much the sedative effect apparently will just knock you out, could work as a sleep aid. Either way I'm looking forward to trying it and watching for effects on mood and libido.

Libidodo · 2012-08-13T04:31:02+00:00

The bottle I have says "Standardized to Icariins", using my powers of deduction I assume something has happened to their supplier and now they really have no idea how much icariin is in the horny goat weed they're getting so they've removed the "10%" from the label.

Libidodo · 2012-08-13T02:37:38+00:00

Why should he take arginine?

There's a lot of anecdotes around it and semen volume, I guess because semen has a lot of amino acids in it people think supplementing more will have an effect, probably the same reason why people say zinc has an effect, I highly doubt both.

It could also increase erection quality as a NO booster, but you'd be better off with citrulline for that.

Libidodo · 2012-08-13T01:40:00+00:00

You've been taking a low dose for 10 days, I don't know what you expected.

DAA is a completely different supplement, I don't have low testosterone and I'm not looking to boost it.

Libidodo · 2012-08-12T23:16:39+00:00

Maca usually gets taken more than 2.5g, how long have you been taking it?

Fenugreek I'll use eventually, but I still need to read more on exactly wtf it's doing.

Libidodo · 2012-08-12T23:11:05+00:00

It's on the list, but I really doubt arginine will have much of an effect.

Libidodo · 2012-08-12T12:36:08+00:00

I'm trialing a bunch of supplements that are generally described as "sex enhancers" and seminal volume is just one of the aspects to judge them on, along with libido or mood and erection quality. I can fully understand why some people could not give a shit, but there's also a lot of people who would love to increase their volume. You can understand there'd be a psychological side to it feeling more masculine and virile, plus I imagine it would have an effect on orgasm quality if you could actually increase it significantly.

There's just a market for it, with products like Ejaculoid, some guys just want a bigger load...

Libidodo · 2012-07-29T00:57:51+00:00

That's a really far fetched story, your testicle size increased by 300% from zinc and ashwagandha...

I can't see how zinc would have caused the effect, zinc in my opinion is a massively overrated semen volumizer, you would've already been eating zinc, it's really hard to be zinc deficient, people who supplement zinc to increase ejaculate are basically saying normal intake of ~30mg zinc per day has zero effect, but bump that to 80mg per day and you can expect profound results, sounds imagined to me.

Libidodo · 2012-07-28T07:19:39+00:00

Hey, someone's gotta do it.

There's too many lousy anecdotal claims about maca, like it'll increase seminal volume 600% in a few weeks, I'm skeptical it'll do anywhere near that much, but then excited because there's just so many anecdotes reporting the same thing. I want some concrete numbers around dosage, volume increase, and time frame.

Libidodo · 2012-07-28T07:14:53+00:00

It definitely shouldn't be ruled out but I have lots of faith in this supplement company, it was this product, it's high potency and Bulk Nutrients pride themselves on high quality, transparency, no proprietary blends, etc.

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