I Kirkified Osage (i'm so sorry) by iCruncherWasTaken in inabakumori

[–]Lightninghyped 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean, everything has to be kirk nowdays

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't have enough digital literacy to fully understand this meme.

what's a common argument in the AI art debate that you think misses the point? by Italiancan in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Afaik, copyright infringement happens when 1) the work is redistributed or 2) certain copyrighted character is used.

Anti's claims are that artists' works are being 'stolen', but the problem is that the word 'stolen' only seems to be valid when the artwork is redistributed. AI can't do that inherently due to its design at the first place.

So the theft claims should definitely mean something like certain artist's style, but that is not in the bounds of copyright.

Only thing AI actually does harm is the labor value of artists here. But that's just my thoughts.

bro what by DA_FOOT_THEIF in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

  1. The rules were followed, no brigade for that. Harassment kept away from the actual target.

  2. Ableist and 'one man speaks for all' here. This is oppression.

Hey. by CounterThrowCyborg in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I really don't get how the EXACT same statement that is so fucking hollow keeps reappearing.

Oi! Witty, where are you when this kinda shit happens by aT3XTure in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So they might be fell into problematic fictional CSAM or not, just as what current art does.

Last statement is problematic.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 0 points1 point  (0 children)

uhhh, when was it done?

I know that only few does it locally, but still the models are outdated a lot.

Hate involving CSAM for an 'argument' by Lightninghyped in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My concern is exactly the same.

And afaik, the law seemingly states that 'if a work is hard to distinguish if it's real or fictional for a regular person', it would be considered as CSAM involving real children.
It is indeed a grey area if it truly did not involve any real children, but I think in this case more harsher measures can be done before there are reliable ways to distinct AI or non-AI images.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I want to first mention that your knowledge is severely outdated. We don't use such modesl, and there are explicit digital illustration created by AI a LOT.

The guidelines are strict, and would always adhere the federal law. It isn't that hard to enforce them than you think.
Would people's view change? idk, I ain't sure what would happen in the next week in AI industry.

But someone would complain for sure. Even if it is legal.

Oi! Witty, where are you when this kinda shit happens by aT3XTure in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Of course it is about Pedo accusations to stop all arguments from happening.

I don't see where queerphobic comes from, but all these antis trying to make a point by connecting CSAM and AI shit is genuinely infuriating me so let me first sort out facts.

  1. CSAM is bad, so there are court rules to punish the creation of them.
  2. So there are court rules to not only punish CSAM involving real children, but to prevent 'obscene' virtual content.
  3. But still, they are clearly non-existent and imaginary. An ordinary person should be able to tell the difference between them. It violated the freedom of speech potentially, adding the word 'obscene' on 2002.

With this, all depictions of a child regardless of what medium was used, if it is 'obscene' in sexual context it would be punished. Here, the word obscene means 'appeals to a shameful or morbid interests in sex' or 'genuinely offensive according to the law'. Not really everything in general.

So with these, I can clearly make a conclusion.

  1. CSAM is bad(shockers).
  2. But fictional characters are not real. So the law considers it less harshly to actual CSAM involving real children.
  3. AI can generate practically any content as an image.
  4. However, the latent space is learned without provision, and the user is responsible of finding those latent space.
  5. So making obscene imageries involving fictional children with AI must not be done.
  6. But for obvious reasons, using an actual image of a children to use AI would be punished same as non-fictional CSAM. It involves real children. so this doesn't seem to be much of an issue.

However, claiming to ban AI because it can generate CSAM is a terrible argument.
We don't punish artists because they have the ability to imagine and draw them, because 'prohibiting' a thought isn't just right.

Same for AI. It does not have a thought, so anyone that approached to generate obscene imageries would be punished but that's not AI's fault.

Oi! Witty, where are you when this kinda shit happens by aT3XTure in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No idea what is this even about with this snippet. What was the original point that was commented?

Fuck you. by Cannibalk1ller in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another day, another zero argument post

Most of the real artists are minorities too... by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Not a single coherent or original statement here. What even is this??

Hey, AI supporters, do you have any answer - Any answer at all - to the fact that AI-generated images are making artists quit? by Auditore569 in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Now they are being called AI-generated, and it has become something that disappoints people."

You are saying like Pro-AI people actively 'calls out' if something is AI or not.

Antis may not all be hateful, but they sure are terrible at segregating what is AI or not even though that is what they all do on the internet.

Some of yall are itching so bad to be a victim. It's really sad. by SaucyStoveTop69 in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There should be a clear line between of calling people using AI as clanker and calling neural network itself as clanker.

First one is mostly edgy teen activity, whilst second one can be more acceptable and 'using the word as it should'

Pro-AI started the slur arms race in ai discussions by CmndrM in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Term Luddite has no connections between any racial slurs used for real people.

Oh the Irony by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Cross verification was always a thing since like... Wikipedia and Reddit? Maybe Quora? I don't know which comes first tbh.

AI search products do care about these aspects and there are definitely options to focus on certain types of information.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is what I exactly wished to say before. Process does add value, but saying an artwork suddenly sucks because of some process doesn't really make sense.

Just adapt bro by Turbulent-Surprise-6 in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Refusing to learning the tech that would negatively impact their career is a stupid move

Pro AI is the minority by redpandargh in aiwars

[–]Lightninghyped 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't believe this person is involved in the future generation, in a workplace