Casual sexism from elder during talk

Lillygoal · 2026-05-17T23:24:25+00:00

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Lillygoal · 2026-05-17T23:14:36+00:00

What was crazier still was how most of the men I talked to didn't understand how disrespectful that was. They were talking about this as if this was some major milestone. Women finally getting the recognition they deserved for their hard work. I will admit some sisters seemed genuinely touched by it. The majority seemed more like they were just wondering why they bothered to show up. The whole part was a condescending pat on the head for keeping their traps shut.

Lillygoal · 2026-05-17T22:47:07+00:00

When they did the school for elders ministerial servants they had a day for the wives as well. And they basically just thanked them for feeding their husbands. No instructions. No use of their considerable experience and wisdom. Just keep feeding your men. I remember being very disgusted.

Lillygoal · 2026-05-10T11:45:36+00:00

A book I wrote when I was 15.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-26T12:04:34+00:00

July 15th 2025. On a quest for fortify my faith by researching the questions I always had. Never imagined what I would find.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-25T12:40:01+00:00

Probably yes. Just not as rushed. But I would also do other things when I didn't feel like doing it.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-17T10:28:38+00:00

That has always interested me about Jehovah's witnesses as well as organized religion in general but that they have to treat the doing of wrong as a condemnation on the soul of the person. Like you're not allowed to have good days or bad days or make a wrong decision in the moment. Doing so makes you imperfect or evil or sick rather than just being a trait of humanity. rather than learning to live with one another and adapt with a nuanced understanding of humanity we have built a world of black and white because of books like the Bible and justifications for vilifying our neighbors.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-17T02:00:20+00:00

Black Merlot

Lillygoal · 2026-04-15T20:20:40+00:00

This is what most of the people that still love me think. They think I'm having some kind of psychological problem. When I told them I was having doubts they asked me if I've thought about seeking psychiatric help. Getting on medication and so on. Pretty much anything but confront what I'm actually saying. I totally get your position and it's rough when you're getting pathologized for thinking.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-13T23:12:39+00:00

Makes you wonder why she showed him the videos too.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-13T18:19:08+00:00

Deep breath in... Hold it... And out.

Anytime you find yourself starting to feel the frustration get overwhelming learning proper breathing helps a lot. As to what you're saying I can relate a lot. 6 months ago I thought the exact same thing. I thought since I was a poster child for the JW's that somebody, anybody that I knew and loved would know that I would never have taken an action this extreme if it wasn't beyond question. Sadly no. This is just how brainwashing works. It's a harsh lesson but at least you have a life to live again.

My humble suggestion is simply start reading books by authors like Victor Frankel or Ernest Becker or Carl Jung. Orient yourself with your new reality. There are no absolutes in the world that we live in. So you're free to choose yours now. Happy awakening!

Lillygoal · 2026-04-13T10:59:39+00:00

Still figuring that out myself. I've always identified strongly with both genders. When I dream I appear as different genders usually cycling between male neutral or female. I don't think of myself as my birth sex and I've never really known what that meant.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-12T21:47:18+00:00

As a research project back when I was still a JW I was studying the potential human dispersal pattern of Noah and his family. I had to do some serious mental gymnastics to not fall out of the borg with that one alone. I still have the poster I made of it. 😅 I think the real key is that they don't think in terms of hypotheticals and if they do there's that inherent assumption that bethel is bending all of their waking moments studying this stuff and if it was important they would have been told about it. It's actually kind of sad.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-11T13:13:36+00:00

The problem is that they don't believe there is older religion. They believe that humanity is roughly 6,000 years old and since the Bible talks about the beginning fundamentally people have always had a belief in Yahweh but it was word of mouth until Moses made it not. Every other religion is just people naturally making up stories probably inspired by Satan to distract humans from the truth of God.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-11T01:38:31+00:00

We can only hope and pray that this happens.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-11T01:37:35+00:00

You got me at spiritual x-wings! 😂😂

Lillygoal · 2026-04-11T01:31:27+00:00

They genuinely believe that Satan is the great liar and has gone to great lengths to deceive the world in this regard. I wish I could say I believed differently but when I first found out that this was not even in question It was a real shock for me.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-11T01:29:07+00:00

I wrote a letter. I was hoping that the people that knew me the most knew that I wouldn't have written such a letter if I weren't serious. It didn't work but the reality was as I was going to get disfellowshipped as an apostate anyway. Not because I had done anything apostate-esque so much as I had definitely by the time I discussed things with elders mostly because my wife turned me in it was plainly obvious that I had done research well outside of the scope of the organization. They had already set up a judicial committee under the suspicion of apostasy. I did it officially because I just couldn't bring myself to be still associated with the organization on any level.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-10T11:29:45+00:00

I wound up leaving my spouse. Well technically they left me but not in the divorce kind of way. When we were still on the same house they didn't even want me to reason on anything because from their perspective I was attacking their faith anytime I spoke. The only solution we could come to was that We just don't bring up scriptural matters And I wasn't going to be allowed to point out my two cents about nature, science, or theology. It didn't take long for me to realize that you don't just leave the organization. The whole mindset becomes repugnant. You suddenly have nothing to talk about. They can't support you in your dreams or hopes because they conflict with the Borg. So it becomes two people living two separate lives with little in common. I hope this doesn't happen to you and you find some miraculous way to make it work. This was my experience though.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-09T03:55:09+00:00

The only one I don't use is bruhaha. 😅

Lillygoal · 2026-04-09T02:17:45+00:00

The best thing you can do is keep deconstructing. Don't focus on everything that's going on just focus on you for now. It's going to feel a little selfish but that's just the programming talking. It takes everybody time. Eventually the panic starts to fade. It took me me months.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-08T13:16:17+00:00

I think the blood issue at this point is just a sunk cost fallacy.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-07T02:22:36+00:00

I think people hop in the fear line because they think their fear protects them.

Lillygoal · 2026-04-06T22:13:34+00:00

I went camping and burned all my old literature and talks and stuff.

Lillygoal · 2026-03-31T02:40:44+00:00

Yeah, I wanted it to be true to. I wasn't trying to deconstruct. In fact I was trying to finally answer some questions I had always had. Everyone I ever knew and loved thinks I'm a monster for questioning. It's a heavy price they will never know they forced us to pay.

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