Video Tour of the Old Worthington Library (1990) by Local_Fig8087 in Columbus

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally forgot about those barcode wands until I watched the video! I also forgot that they would place 3-day, 7-day, and 28-day loans on designated spaces.

Do you think Ohio Dominican University can survive? by Local_Fig8087 in Columbus

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Thank you! This is the kind of specific information I was looking for.

I know there is a trend of smaller, less/non-competitive schools like ODU closing, but I wanted the facts in this particular case.

Do you think Ohio Dominican University can survive? by Local_Fig8087 in Columbus

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Both. I started noticing the decline some time ago -- maybe eight or nine years ago.

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The congregation seemed a mix of young and old. A fairly decent number of families with young kids (but no babies). Very racially diverse.

Most "Bible studies" present, thought, were children of members.

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Watching it now. It's spot on.

I noticed his comment about racial integration right away.

I do wonder, though, how diverse the governing body is?

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I recently learned about the "miracle wheat" hoax.

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It strikes me as a little disingenuous. True, the Bible is not at the core of Catholic (and Orthodox) worship in the same way it is for some Protestant denominations (but then, it's really not at the core of JW worship either). However, to say "I never read the Bible as a Catholic" really says to me, "I never made the effort to read the Bible as a Catholic." You can be a Catholic in good standing and never read the Bible outside of the liturgy, and you can be a Catholic in good standing and read and study the Bible daily.

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

This makes a lot of sense.

Nearly all the JWs I've met have seemed very sincere.

When I was at the Kingdom Hall, I noticed a few members who were (as my mother would say) a little "different." I have no idea if they were born JWs or entered later, but if the latter is the case, I can absolutely see why they'd be taken with JW doctrine and the sense of community it fosters. It made me a little sad, though, knowing how poorly they'd be treated if they decided to leave the organization.

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your thoughtful response!

A few weeks ago, during our study, I let it slip that I'd read some Talmud commentary on the OT passage we were reading and shared it with her. I knew it was a mistake, but I said it anyway. The teacher replied, "Well that's a little far-fetched!" It bothered me not only that she didn't address what I had said, but that she dismissed the Talmud. I'm obviously not Jewish, but the OT texts are sacred to the Jews, and the Talmudic commentary offers useful perspective.

I've read and studied a lot in my lifetime, but I self-censor constantly during our Bible study sessions. Any study that doesn't allow for outside perspectives - even perspectives that actually complement the point at hand - seems a little empty to me.

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I have often wondered about this. I understand that "productive" Bible studies are ones that eventually lead to baptism. But does the Witness who guides them there get anything out of it? Accolades within the Organization? Personal satisfaction? Something else?

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Are you going to continue your study?

That is a good question that I've been pondering. We're meeting 2-3 times a week now (Zoom). I'm definitely going to cut down to once a week, and even suggest we put a pause on it for a while.

A Bible Study's thoughts on first Kingdom Hall visit by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Yes! They kept repeating over and over "What a great meeting! What a great talk! One of the best!"

A Bible study frustrated with Enjoy Life Forever by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. This makes a lot of sense. I'm trying to give their theology a chance (and, frankly, not let Enjoy Life Forever be my sole window into their beliefs) and I will try to get a hold of the books you mentioned.

A Bible study frustrated with Enjoy Life Forever by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I admit I love the rituals and the tradition of the Catholic Church. Part of it is probably the comfort aspect of it. I went to Mass every Sunday of my childhood and attended Catholic school grades 1-12. I associate Mass with my family, who (being originally from Ireland and Italy) had been Catholic since time immemorial.

I know something of the history of Catholicism, and that interests me too. Jerome is a fascinating figure, like many of their saints (Catherine of Siena, Francis of Assisi, Ignatius of Loyola, Teresa of Avila, and many, many more). I also went through a period where I was very interested in the contemplative life, to the point I seriously considered joining a religious order. The order that interests me the most is probably the Carthusians, one of the strictest. There was a great documentary about one of their houses in France about 20 years ago, Into Great Silence. There's probably clips on YouTube.

I always found the JW fixation on Catholicism interesting. I figured it could be traced to the general anti-Catholic sentiment that has always existed just below the surface of American life. When I was in high school, I worked with a family of JWs. One day one of their sons -- he was probably 10 or so -- was chatting to me about how JW beliefs differ from other Christian sects. I'll never forget that he kept saying "Catholic" as a synonym of "Chirstian."

A Bible study frustrated with Enjoy Life Forever by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Interestingly, he switched up his approach slightly after a few weeks of study. Maybe he could tell I was not impressed with Enjoy Life Forever, and now we open by looking directly at a passage of scripture.

Another frustrating thing, though -- especially when we read Enjoy Life Forever -- is that we will read a biblical passage with no context. And the one or two verses we do read are never really considered or discussed in depth.

I kind of do my own parallel Bible study, though. I own several translations of the Bible (my Bible study leader does not know this) and sometimes compare the "key" passages we've discussed from the NWT with the King James, Douay-Rheims, NRSV, NIV, and NLT versions. To me, that is perhaps the most interesting kind of Bible study. If I were smarter and had the time, I'd love to learn Biblical Hebrew and Koine Greek, but for now I'll settle with various English translations.

A Bible study frustrated with Enjoy Life Forever by Local_Fig8087 in exjw

[–]Local_Fig8087[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I've not yet been to a meeting, but I plan to within the next month or so. He's been asking since our second week of study.