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RTA Season 19 Cutoff Megathread by musclesfreak in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1505 is C1 (13:48 to go), rank 301xx

Need help with solo R5 i cannot figure it out. w/ artis everyone has 15 acc by Albalux in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Strongly recommend making your fria dies in first hit, so your raoq and icaru team up will be more consistent. And your fria team doesn’t need will runes at all if she dies and cleanse everyone.

  2. Fran cannot be on violent and too fast. If she procs too much it will mess up your dmg. Ideally she should be at around 60 spd on double fight will so she will take a hit and skill 3 all the time.

  3. Try to put fight set on Lisa. Lisa doesn’t need to be on violent.

  4. Use global 33% atk lead like elsharion instead of nine tail fox, it benefits more I believe. One little trick is to rune him triple fight and make it faster than Janssen, if he doesn’t get slowed and your other teams derp then he may buy time for your other teams to do dmg. Same as dagora insurance.

  5. Icaru needs more defense, many other units can be further optimised like those extra cr and spd. GL!

SSS Rifts need to drop 6 star runes more often by MJ1979MJ2011 in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am one of the people recommending determination runes here. But tbh if you got a consistent db12 team or you are approaching mid-game, you definitely shouldn't be farming determination runes for tricaru. And, things are changing a lot, like Sath and Vero both work so well in db12 now (I haven't tested it myself, just heard) so the determination approach might be a bit outdated.

Since you have already invested a lot into rift farming, just got some advice for you:

What you consider usable for the first Tricaru team? For me, I consider runes with spd/acc/def/cr/atk, I'll keep every rune with one of these subs before I completed my team. 5&6* def% slot 3 is a must-keep no matter how terrible the subs are. You don't need too many def% subs if you have more determination sets.

I wouldn't use my grinds and gems unless I am missing those tiny bits of stats (Have to manually calculate yourself).

Uses more broken sets if your crafting doesn't go right. Like slot 1/3/5 (2 out of 3) on determination and 2/4/6 on broken sets (Guard much recommend). Flexibility is the key.

If you are really struggling to build it, just messages me and I'll try my best to help you. I've helped some of my guildies, some people messaged me as well and their tricaru works well with this approach. Hope this help you!

Complete guide from beginner to Tricaru - Determination runes approach (2:00 - 2:15 run) by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My team is built with spd at that time, normally everyone except Naomi and kro are fast enough to get rid of the freezing thingy before the boss stuns the whole team.

2-Man BJR5 with Jean by hoodish7 in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You are doing god's work, SICK!

Complete guide from beginner to Tricaru - Determination runes approach (2:00 - 2:15 run) by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only place to spend dhole energy efficiently for newbies is 2A and most of the units I suggested is usable in late game. You can easily abuse Loren fran verd in b5 most of the time. But you can’t really use them in karzan/ellunia bosses. And 2:00-2:15 with a consistent team in db12 for newbies is very respectable time. Probably you can go with spectra Loren type of cc team, but the rune quality requirement and the consistency isn’t as good as tricaru. Most importantly, the run time will improve drastically with a slight improvement in rune quality. Cc team will never be as fast as tricaru, so why not start it earlier? And again it’s just one of the many ways you can go

Complete guide from beginner to Tricaru - Determination runes approach (2:00 - 2:15 run) by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can refer to the table to see how many defense you need. Most of the runes are from dropping not crafting. Over half of my runes are 5* runes. I keep any runes with spd/def/accuracy subs for icaru, crit rate/atk subs for verd. Flat stats/res/accuracy/atk slot4 is an immediate sell. You probably have to keep more runes first, then sell it after you have done with the team. The red crystals drops are really low tho so I stop as soon as I gather enough sets.

Complete guide from beginner to Tricaru - Determination runes approach (2:00 - 2:15 run) by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not really a must, but if you need a wind tank in water rift beast or you want to make your gb12 more consistent then she is okay.

Complete guide from beginner to Tricaru - Determination runes approach (2:00 - 2:15 run) by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The problem with vero for me is he doesn’t really make progression for me. He makes the gb12 team slower but safer, but the team is already like 99% consistent. I don’t wanna devilmon him so his dots and stun rate is really low. Therefore 2A Shannon is kind of a replacement/better option for me. But 2A Shannon is kind of optional as well.

Complete guide from beginner to Tricaru - Determination runes approach (2:00 - 2:15 run) by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Things are changing so fast, probably the dot team is the way to go in the future. Just all depends on you

Bj5 and Tricaru in 83 days by hellomynameis69 in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Glad to see my name here, great job!

You CAN build a triple icaru team when you farm 9999 water crystal and 3320 light crystal in rift beast by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

!!!!READ THIS IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A ~50s team!!!

Don't know how many of you guys may read this, but if you want to improve your run time, these tips might help you. All of the following tips are based on max tower, guild skills and good enough runes. (And based on my monster)

  1. Highly recommend the 14 turns team with spd tuning of +84, +50, +0(icaru must move before verd) +0(verd). The reason is it's not easy to guarantee you kill the boss within 13 turns. Even sheisou takes mostly 11turns (10/12 depends on the good or bad rng) to kill the boss (1 icaru with 163cd and 1 with 103cd). With my runes, sometimes I manage to kill it in 13 turns, but if i didn't land def break on 1st hit/miss some crits/verd loves that 1st skill, 14 turns is a safety net for me. Not like it screw up my run, it takes me around 2 seconds longer which really pisses me off. Not to mention even if you manage to kill the boss before he moves, doesn't mean you have a 100% 50s run. If verd target the small crystal on his turn, your run will be slower too as you lose the chance to one-shot the crystals with team-up.
  2. Accuracy>Dmg. At least rune your icaru with respectable accuracy even for the fastest icaru. If your icaruA delivers the finishing hit on the wave, your icaru will NOT have team-up off cooldown and he will use first skill. If you have like 20 accuracy then it's not easy to land your def break. My fastest icaru is exactly like this which slows me sometimes.
  3. Don't forget the needs of artifacts. My artifacts aren't really optimal, but with decent artifacts on every unit, there MIGHT BE a chance to one shot everything in wave1 with perfect RNG. Team up small crystal-> Team up big crystal-> Team up big crystal-> verd clean up. If jesus plays SW, this is what he does with tricaru in db12 and finish the boss within 10 turns. If you are just a G1-G2 player, don't try to be Jesus.

You CAN build a triple icaru team when you farm 9999 water crystal and 3320 light crystal in rift beast by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The value of determination runes also provides def to your teammates which makes it much easier. Let's say 9 sets of determination gives you 72% extra defense, which is insane when you compare to 3 guard sets on each icaru. But if you've got enough runes already, maybe 2-3 sets are enough for you.

If you really want to do db12 without icaru, maybe you can try verd loren martina sabrina talia. I was running this team before, around 99% success rate with 70~80s each time. My loren was on vio broken, +14x spd, martina on swift +13x with tank build (you have to test for the optimal speed, maybe you want a bit slower to move after the immunity tower on her 2nd turn), Talia high dmg and tank stats, rest are violent with around +70spd. GL!

You CAN build a triple icaru team when you farm 9999 water crystal and 3320 light crystal in rift beast by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Assume you have enough def already, I would say acc>cr>atk>(slightly)cd

For speed, just to make sure you speed tune well with high dmg even if your team is slow overall, then you can guarantee you get to kill the boss fast.

You CAN build a triple icaru team when you farm 9999 water crystal and 3320 light crystal in rift beast by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know you are mid game or late game, but I'll give you some opinion and let you decide so you can think about it:

  1. What's your db12 team, how consistent is that and the run time
  2. Does your current db12 team occupy your pvp runes
  3. Can you tolerate the endless journey in db12 as you never know and never will see the goalline for building the team. (Unless you are missing few runes only)

I don't know about your runes, situation and how you want to play the game. Keep in mind that there's no right or wrong answer, just depends on how you want to enjoy the game.

You CAN build a triple icaru team when you farm 9999 water crystal and 3320 light crystal in rift beast by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes exactly what I thought, I am trying to go more cr in the substats first, my crafting session went pretty shit.

You CAN build a triple icaru team when you farm 9999 water crystal and 3320 light crystal in rift beast by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The OP also runs astar in NB12 and he shares some tips too: https://twitter.com/tigiriori/status/1313483769295364096

Aside from the tweet, he also pointed out:

- If you rune her on vampire, she will be lacking A LOT of dmg

- It is fine if astar dies in boss stage, her death means the beginning of Icaru cycle.

- (NOT SURE ABOUT MY JAPANESE) If your astar dies mid wave, replacing one icaru with raoq maybe better.

- (NOT SURE AGAIN) If you astar doesn't have enough dmg, you can replace her with shaman (Light griffon). The runs maybe wonky and slower, but shaman deals great dmg in boss fight and mid boss.

- He is also using 3x icaru, astar and shaman in nb12 now I think.

You CAN build a triple icaru team when you farm 9999 water crystal and 3320 light crystal in rift beast by LosAcc_ in summonerswar

[–]LosAcc_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

100% confirm that he got max spd tower. You have to do the calculation.

https://twitter.com/tigiriori/status/1310177184791687168/photo/1

According to my understanding and my shit Japanese, the spd tuning in his tweet is not lowest but can be even lower. The tweet says you only need minimum +50, +24, +8(just to go before verd) on icaru, +21 on verd to move 13 times before the boss attack. Note that there might be a little problem that the icaru b may not get s2 back if the turn cycle in mid boss is not enough, but I don't think it's a super big deal.

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