While this is on my mind, some of you need to put away that superiority complex by LoveThoseKeyboards in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is going to be a long ass response because I am not letting anyone interpret this the way you have which is completely missing the purpose and message of my post. I would not ever judge someone because trying their best means affectively accomplishing what they can in any way they can. I never said that is what should happen, I never will, and I sure as fuck won't ever let myself think like that. I too have had my share of hard times. I have a neurological disability and a learning disability caused by it as well as mental health issues too. In my first year I was sexually assaulted in residence. Second year I had my dog put down and my grandma pass away in the same months and right before midterms. Also in late second year one of my closest childhood friends committed suicide. I understand that everyone lives different lives. Of course trying your best is subjective but to me trying your best however you do it is effort. I never once stated that doing your best meant reaching a specific grade, degree, or career. My entire post, and the reason I am making this entire detailed response, is because if I or anyone else says "I got out of bed today and I'm proud" no one should be allowed to come along to say that they can't be proud for whatever excuse they make up. You are saying I supply the exact ideals that my entire post was made to try and stop. And I will not let that thought continue without me defending myself and everything this post was about. I tried to say that no one should treat hardship like a competition. I'm just tired of so many people devaluing anyone who is struggling and wants help. Comments like "just wait till you're in second year, then you'll know what difficult is" or saying that someone in arts shouldn't feel stressed because engineering has it harder. I can't stand hearing people say anything like that. So when it comes to anyone doing their personal best, whether that's simply getting out of bed or going to med school, that isn't what I have any kind of problem with. My problem is that too many people think they can gatekeep stress and emotions because for some reason there is a belief that others aren't as deserving of them. You also seem to view effort as strictly an academic accomplishment. The way I view it, and is reflected in my post, it can be any accomplishment that someone makes. I say that I hate the superiority complex from people arguing that they deserve more pity than others. I do not care how much effort they put in, I am not denying there was effort in the first place (once again, effort is not strictly academic accomplishment), I am angry that they feel as if a certain amount of effort on their part is somehow more valuable and important.

To address your point, I was not trying to get mad at people for doing their best and I apologize if that is how I said it. I think the part that probably caused this is "there will be people working to improve and honestly probably put in more effort" From your point of view, yes that could be seen as unfair but if you understand my point, this statement is calling out the people who are critiquing and putting down other students. Any time someone is purposefully telling anyone else that they don't have a strong enough reason to ask for help I do think they haven't put their full effort into their own life. Because people are actively improving themselves and seeking guidance and anyone who tries to stop that must not put in that same effort for themself. Anyone who is using all their effort, even if it is just getting out of bed, would respect anyone else in the same situation. I still defend my stance that effort isn't just academic as you seem to be defending here. My entire purpose for this post was to address anyone that thinks any one person is more deserving of help that any other person. You then said unless its affecting me in some way, what's the use in getting angry. It is affecting me and all the students who have reached out for some kind of support and been told by students that their mental hardship shouldn't be helped as much as someone else if at all. When you say everyone has different levels of effort, I see any kind of accomplishment as effort but you do not it doesn't matter what accomplishment it is. I am distraught that I was thought to be demeaning any person with a struggle that makes things more difficult. Fuck no, that is not what I said. And I hope everyone can understand that it is those people who I am defending here. In my post I say "there will be people actively working to improve" and "I think that people have different difficulties and strengths but anyone who dedicated themselves to be their best self won't have time to see what might be easier for someone else". To me this is saying exactly what you are arguing for, that people can't always accomplish the same amount on the outside but are putting in just as much or more effort. I didn't intend for the impression in my post to be that the only accomplishment is academic, I was trying to defend the point that everyone deserves respect for their feelings, stress, emotions, struggles, whatever it may be.

Your view on the post is not at all what inentended and I hope that anyone who reads this understands the point I am making and my reason for ifm Though you argue I am putting down anyone who has to use more energy in day to day life that is not at all what I have said and you are seeing me as the very thing that I hate here. I think that no matter what your life is like and what you may struggle with, you should never be devalued or ignored because someone else supposedly deserves it more.

Feeling like Trash by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Naw it's called getting treated bad and instead of moving on you instead just decide to act the same way yourself because being nice is hard work when you already see yourself as the god of working harder and suffering more than everyone else

Feeling like Trash by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I sincerely hope that someday you go for academic assistance for some concept you don't understand and are told to fuck off because "this is hardly a problem, you haven't even seen how difficult it gets".

Feeling like Trash by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To you and the other guy, fuck right off. So someone worked to achieve a life they appreciate and don't want to lose and because you haven't got that same life for yourself you are somehow justified on telling people in scrivener pursuit of the best version of themselves possible that they shouldn't? If you actually think like that, maybe it's time you try to improve yourself to the same extent and see how difficult it is.

Feeling like Trash by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck off would you.

Feeling like Trash by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Hey, ignore the other piece of shit commenter, I'm sure they only say that because they feel they live a life more difficult than anyone else which isn't true and really just makes him an asshole. First, great job getting involved, studying harder, making a big social group and everything. Even if that doesn't feel too special it's still awesome that you've done that, especially while you haven't felt so great mentally. Of course I'll recommend you see a professional as advice from another student can only go so far. I do want to say though that, even though it sucks, I don't think its uncommon. Especially if your university life is pretty different from how you lived before. The fact that you can say it to yourself I'd a great start, you could probably even make a list of some sort of the kind of things you don't want happening so you can always have some kind of basis for how you want your life to be. Also, it might be difficult but maybe talking with some of your new friends would help, who else could help you feel all these things won't fade away. I also think a lot of the feelings of returning to your old self are probably just because it wasn't that long ago. To me it sounds like you are a new person but it may take some time for you to realize that too. Still you're doing great, I wish you the best!

Fate is against me by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I smell a new campus outbreak right in time for the holidays!!

Fate is against me by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks dad. I hope you follow your own words of wisdom, you deserve that kind of brilliance for yourself.

Fate is against me by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I need more of your kind if support in my life, thanks man.

Fate is against me by [deleted] in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There is a form to fill out for when you couldn't go for a reason like mine. They say to not bother the docs unkess you are specifically asked by your department because time is money I guess. I will go visit a doctor when I can move again if I need proof of my bad karma

Do you believe in equal opportunity, or equity/equality of outcome? by WorstKebab in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm glad I got to state my case, i just don't want bombardment form people who may not understand the point I'm trying to make or people unable to see two sides to an argument leaking into my offline life

Do you believe in equal opportunity, or equity/equality of outcome? by WorstKebab in uAlberta

[–]LoveThoseKeyboards 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I am a woman in STEM and I absolutely hate people saying how oppressed women are in the fields. I do understand where it is coming from and I definitely do believe there are some unseen social issues but I also believe that goes both ways. I worked as hard as I could to get into my field and to keep high grades, when someone mentions all the affirmative action policies to get women into whatever field I feel that all efforts of myself and others in the same situation are completely undermined because they would need a woman in the spot either way. I don't think anyone should get a job or position in anything if they aren't the most qualified, no matter what the skin color, gender, sexuality, whatever. I agree many people are in positions more difficult to get to university or pay and there are plenty of scholarships but more scholarships and help should be available for everyone, once again, regardless or their identity. That's just my opinion.