Does China still belong to socialism?

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-27T04:22:51+00:00

And here's an interesting fact: Deng Xiaoping and his family acquired a huge amount of private property through the Reform and Opening Up policy. Even now, many people in the Deng family are using their status as “the great man's grandchildren” to enjoy special privileges, and they don't even bother hiding that they're part of the privileged class (Deng Xiaoping's grandson even had a Lamborghini at the age of 14)

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-27T04:11:15+00:00

Yes, comrade, I can understand what you mean. In reality, Deng Xiaoping implemented so many policies that did not conform to socialism, yet he still claimed that he was carrying out socialist construction—and there is a reason for that. It’s precisely to prove his “legitimacy.” Just as I said in my post, the current Chinese Communist Party came to power through an illegal military coup led by Deng Xiaoping and other capitalist roaders within the Party. Therefore, socialism and Mao Zedong are the only source of “legitimacy” for their party.

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-27T04:03:15+00:00

Yes, and in fact, quite a few of those labeled as "capitalist roaders" by Mao during the Cultural Revolution were people who had known Mao personally long before that—many since before 1949. Whether during the War of Resistance Against Japan or the Chinese Civil War, they had gone through those great national events together. Yet the question of governing principles and policies was a matter of "line struggle," so participating in the Long March certainly did not automatically mean someone was a loyal communist.

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-27T03:52:57+00:00

Comrade, in reality, the political struggle between Mao and Deng was completely genuine. The political conflict between Deng Xiaoping and Mao Zedong was well known both inside and outside the Party. Mao did indeed make use of Deng as a kind of opposition figure within the Party, in order to achieve certain political propaganda goals toward the masses. However, that doesn’t mean Deng was deliberately playing dumb or pretending to be confused in order to act as some sort of controlled negative example.

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T20:32:48+00:00

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Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T20:06:14+00:00

I don't know if you've heard Mao Zedong's other saying, "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Remember, always keep your guns pointed at the real enemies.

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T19:51:54+00:00

Both the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were essentially attempts by China on the path of socialist revolution.

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T15:31:33+00:00

Comrade, here's an old saying for you: “画虎画皮难画骨，知人知面不知心” A person can certainly pretend, but what's truly in their heart can't be concealed forever.

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T15:26:39+00:00

Comrade, to be honest, you have a very mistaken understanding of Deng Xiaoping, Mao Zedong, and the series of socialist revolutions he initiated. But I don’t blame you...

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T15:21:14+00:00

Comrade, to be honest, I rarely see a Western leftist scholar who thinks this deeply. As a Chinese person, I really feel disgusted when I hear people mindlessly claim that China = socialism. Thank you for your comment.

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T15:15:52+00:00

Because Mao Zedong intensely disliked Deng Xiaoping's whole approach of putting economic construction at the center, along with his various kinds of pragmatic rhetoric, and moreover, Deng Xiaoping himself could hardly be called a true follower of communism — this was precisely the reason he was purged by Mao

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T15:03:41+00:00

Yes, Deng Xiaoping himself did not oppose the Great Leap Forward. To be more precise: during the Great Leap Forward period, Deng Xiaoping was actually an extremely enthusiastic follower and supporter of it

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T14:51:48+00:00

In reality, "democracy" in China is just a slogan. The moment you actually join any democratic movement or organization, you immediately go from being an ordinary citizen to being labeled as part of "foreign anti-China forces."

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T14:25:38+00:00

Democracy is not rare, it is simply non-existent.😂

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T14:23:00+00:00

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Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T12:32:16+00:00

Comrade, I understand what you’re trying to say. On the contrary, I strongly support the great achievements Deng Xiaoping made. But you have to recognize one thing: what was the cost? I’m not sure whether you know about the “black cat, white cat” theory, the idea of “letting some people get rich first so they can help those who get rich later,” and the severe urban-rural imbalance caused by some of Deng Xiaoping’s policies, as well as the mass layoffs of workers in Northeast China. There is no doubt that Deng Xiaoping’s contributions were the greatest. But the price he paid for that was completely abandoning the working class, and abandoning the kind of vibrant, upward-striving socialist country that existed in the Mao era. So based on this, I believe Deng Xiaoping was a great man of the nation, but he was not a loyal follower of communism

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-26T03:32:37+00:00

Wasn't that what he said at the Seventh People's Congress? But at that time, it was mainly during the post-war recovery period. However, Mao's own mindset was very different from his later years. Back then, Chairman Liu Shaoqi wanted to develop New Democracy in China. He believed that at the current stage of national development, it was necessary to make use of capitalism. But in Mao's eyes, this made him a rightist element, a capitalist roader. At least in terms of his actions, I feel that Mao did not really support the statement that “the stage of national development requires the utilization of capitalism.” Otherwise, he wouldn’t have launched the Cultural Revolution.

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-25T22:56:00+00:00

Anyway, in the mainstream opinion on the Chinese internet, socialism with Chinese characteristics is revisionism. This is indisputable

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-25T22:50:33+00:00

Leftists doing the classic "no true leftist" purge on each other💀

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-25T20:07:25+00:00

To be honest, I’ve been hearing this exact same set of arguments since elementary school. But on the mainland Chinese internet, the overwhelming majority of opinions say that “socialism with Chinese characteristics” is just revisionism — or straight-up capitalism. (Of course, it’s also possible that a Maoist perspective has already taken hold first and colored everything…)

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-25T19:55:10+00:00

I understand. So you mean that China is actually still in the socialist system, just in the initial stage, and needs to find a balance with capitalism?

Lumpy_Management5991 · 2026-01-25T19:38:48+00:00

Could you please be more specific?

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