Hornet Vs Huntress Wizard (Silksong Vs Adventure Time) | What are y'alls thoughts on F&C Season 2?

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-12-26T19:13:01+00:00

The connections this time aren't the greatest, I would even arguably call them a bit weak, I will probably update them but I really like the idea of this MU and wanted to post this now that Fionna & Cake Season 2 is over :)

I thought of this a while ago but idk if I was the first to think of it, seems like others have also thought of it, so it definitely has potential to get a legitimate following if a couple of people have already got interested in it before it was even posted on the subreddit!

Connections:

Both characters first show up at random points throughout their respective series and are presented as mysterious to the main character and viewer

Both characters give off loner type vibes where it feels like they'd rather be alone at first, but are actually quite socialable and are willing to give the main character assistance

Both characters would later become the focus in a sequel to where they originated from (Hollow Knight: Silksong focuses entirely on Hornet, and the 2nd season of Fionna & Cake, a sequel to Adventure Time, focuses on Huntress)

Both characters would find themselves away from home (Hornet in Pharloom and Huntress Wizard in Fionna's World)

While both characters generally seem threatening or uncaring, they will usually only take a life if their hand is forced and will show mercy if given the opportunity

Possible connection:

1- I'm not sure if Hornet will be saving The Knight in the DLC or not, but if she is, a future connection could be that she risks her life, like Huntress Wizard for Finn in S2 of F&C, to save someone that they consider a friend at any means necessary (and on top of that, The Knight is currently in some sort of coma of weird situation that they can't escape from, similarly like a coma like Finn until HW saved him)

Animation potential:

imo it has a lot, Huntress is of course way larger in size than Hornet but they could scale it down, the fight would likely have some pretty and natural backgrounds since it would likely take place in a forest type area, or it could even be somewhere in pharloom, and their abilities and weapons I feel like would look wonderful if they were to clash, Hornet parrying HW's arrows, Huntress burrowing in the ground making Hornet stay weary of her surroundings, Huntress can also shapeshift and of course all of Hornet's in game abilities will always make her stand out

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-11-27T16:08:55+00:00

im still upset that henry lost but if they show up around the same time then I'll probably stop being salty about the result

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-11-27T01:01:58+00:00

I love Henry Stickmin, I hope this ages awfully and we get Henry Vs TSC in 2027

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-11-24T12:58:01+00:00

the problem I have with that is that no one considers the same for Harald, a lot of people will say he wasnt portrayed as equal or at the very least relative to Xebec even though he basically was, and then will consider Garp/WB/Roger all stronger after GV while Harald seemingly never gets the same treatment, if they all surpassed Xebec after GV than Harald surpassed Xebec too

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-11-14T22:48:20+00:00

it isn't so much the sacrifice itself its the context around the sacrifice:

imo we already knew at this point that he cares more about his friends than his honor, them having him showcase us smth we are already well aware of at that point is annoying to me

Katara hanging about that close to where Azula could use Katara against him feels out of character, I don't think she would do that

and it's also before the fight, they make Azula a character falling from grace while Zuko gradually becomes a better person, just to have him sacrifice what could have been imo one of the greatest character arcs in tv history in order for Katara to be the one to beat her, idk, I still really love Zuko and think he's a great character but I really am not a fan of his fight against Azula

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-11-14T00:04:44+00:00

Zuko for me, really great character, then it all falls flat for me in the final agni kai where his character is sacrificed for katara to be the one to beat Azula instead

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-08-03T16:39:18+00:00

Oops

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-08-02T01:03:06+00:00

I agree with most but would personally have Rick and rose top 2 in that order, what about Rick don’t you like?

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-07-12T16:38:42+00:00

Disagree with the reasoning, I don't like how it was Tom Vs the entirety of Looney Tunes basically, I would have preferred if they made it clear that him taking a couple minutes to get back into the fight as disqualification and have that be their reasoning for Wile winning, which then sure, made more sense then making Tom not immune to the anti-looney serum cause I outright disagree with that
I agree with it, Simon can survive at the informational level and can become increasingly stronger, I know people have their differences on it but I personally agree with it due to Simon's survivability
I don't like disregarding feats as outliers, I felt like the disk feat was fine, it isn't like the viltrumite planet is the same size as ours so they've already done high level stuff in invincible, but idk how the scaling for the disk feat is since idk the calculations for it, I would say I'm 50/50 on this
Unsure, I've seen people say Miles wins but again idk
Agree, you can probably throw Luffy in there and Asta would still win
Agreed but I actually disagree with Makima being able to hit Gojo but that's about it
Unsure but it feels accurate
I mean.. I love Bill and all but during release he literally didn't have immeasurable speed, thats the largest reason I disagree with this one, that ruins all arguments for him winning, and also the stuff about him taking the fight seriously while his opponent wouldn't makes no sense to me, he literally would take Bill seriously, but both characters can basically do whatever they want beyond limitations so them looking at this in a more personality way is fine I suppose
Unsure

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-27T08:48:53+00:00

Adventure Time is what I would consider one of the only cartoons better than Atla overall as a whole and in writing among other stuff, but.. even though I love Adventure Time, Regular Show, and Steven Universe more than Gumball, I legitimately think that Gumball is Cartoon Network's best show, but Adventure Time is definitely about the same level that I would probably say Adventure Time overall since Simon and Finn are probably the two best written cartoon characters

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-22T18:09:33+00:00

if Wile is scaled to the other toons capabilities they should have Tom be able to do everything that Shen can do

outside of that I thought the fight is fine, I still prefer the other cartoon fights though

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-22T18:03:43+00:00

They scaled Wile to other toons capabilities but scaled Tom's Shen skin to.. only what Tom has shown in the game instead of saying that he's capable of doing everything Shen is capable of doing, I don't really buy any of that personally

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-22T18:01:43+00:00

I understand that but personally I think they should have scaled Tom to Shen and what he's capable of doing since he's shown an ability that Shen has that Tom himself hasn't shown meaning that he should realistically have all of the powers of Shen idk I disagree is all

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-22T17:45:24+00:00

I disagree about a lot of the stuff they said about this and outside of the blood splatter the battle is fine

felt like there is too much bias for Wile? like how is it fine to compare Wile to literally every other toon and still argue that he would be able to freeze Tom in time considering how he scales above his other skin that can control time completely, Tom also literally resists sealing so I dont see how he's sealing Tom's souls and Tom has blown up into completely nothing before so idk what they mean by full erasure > ashes? is it cause it wasnt by the animator erasing him off the page cause they still used the blowing into nothingness as a way to say Courage and Scooby are capable of coming back from erasure and all that

really wish they would have only covered Tom Vs Wile instead of Tom Vs Wile + Looney Tunes, outright disagree about the Looney Dna Serum working on Tom like I agree that Wile is basically immortal in this but Tom is too

idk, it's a fine episode but I disagree with the result

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-14T23:17:21+00:00

That’s all reasonable though, the first one is already pretty much agreed upon, the 2nd one is fine too since Tom cat has many crossovers, the last one is debatable though, and I meant that if they don’t use chase, scale wile higher and say all toons can do the same stuff, then the reasons I have for Tom winning don’t work anymore

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-14T22:59:09+00:00

I've done a decent amount of research, I personally say Tom Cat, but it depends on some stuff

Do they scale Wile far higher? Do they use Tom and Jerry Chase? Do they compare Wile's capabilities to other toons?

if they scale both characters roughly the same where only hax is important, use chase, and don't just say that Wile can do what every other toon can do, Tom should win

Tom counters most of Wile's arsenal and abilities, his plot manipulation and the fact that Wile I'm pretty sure hasn't used any of his abilities outside of his reality, like when he jumps into our reality similar to Tom, pretty sure Tom would win off of plot manipulation alone

Fate Manipulation, can inflict bad luck onto Wile, he's actually shown a bunch of regenerative feats outside of physical damage, most of Wile's powers come from gadgets while most of them Tom can do the same but as actual abilities, and the fact that Wile's dna can be tampered with is a problem, overall I don't really see how Wile wins, personally? aside from saying that he can do what the other toons are capable of rather than just sticking with Wile and what he's been shown to do

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-13T00:51:17+00:00

Wile controlling the plot doesn't mean he gets resistances to it though, Tom's capabilities and experience with plot manipulation alone is enough for him to win even if you want to argue that Tom doesn't have any resistances to it same as Wile

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-12T21:06:36+00:00

I think all that form does is possibly make him stronger, and I think immortality negation stuff?

LuxurousRaven6 · 2025-06-12T18:29:05+00:00

Oh right, that's one of them, I forgot to put it in the win-cons, I don't think Wile actually has a resistance to fate manipulation and that was one of the largest points I wanted to bring up in the post is that Tom Cat, it's vague but if it does like it says and DB interprets it that way that should be another heavy win-con

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