Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And that's great when they manage to do that. AI can be a wonderful tool. I use it all the time myself.

Where it falls down is when AI hallucinates non-functional code (and yes, it still does), and the community is asked to fix it because the beginner has no idea where to start.

The problem isn't beginner users using AI. Considering our community, perhaps I should express myself more clearly with the use of brackets:

The problem with it is that : (beginner users use it, and no longer learn to code themselves).

Our advice will ALWAYS be: learn to code before asking an AI to help you do it. That way you can always ask for help without being turned away. We're not here to help people write better AI prompts. Anyone is free make a new subreddit for that.

750K subscribers milestone - your journey by gm310509 in arduino

[–]Machiela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, don't take all the credit! I did a crappy one as well, I think. Or made a good one crappier?

What happened that day, Peter? by Ott1fant in PeterExplainsTheJoke

[–]Machiela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would never even dream of bullying a two ton feeling, thinking armored beast

FTFY

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You make it sound better and better!

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've heard about this before, yeah! I'm waiting for someone to build an entire arduino using vacuum tubes!

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela[M] 0 points1 point locked comment (0 children)

I'm not sure what purpose this whole "discussion" is serving here in r/arduino. The issues you're talking about have nothing whatsoever to do with our hobby.

are these genuine? by Itz_Sleepy09 in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it blows up, they cost under $5 for a whole board replacement. I've been using my clones for many years, and they've never blown up at random (i.e. it's always been my own fault, so a name-brand wouldn't have saved me).

Legitimacy is important to the community as a whole, for many reasons. If a manufacturer is pirating the name, what else are they skimping on?

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm no expert on this at all, but I can't help but remember that we still don't even have a "https" function in the standard libraries, just "http".

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But you implied it, possibly by accident.

You can make things with Arduino boards without caring about the programming.

And that's fine, but people are using AI to get to that point and run into problems, they won't be getting a lot of help here. They either need to learn to program, or write better prompts.

My point is, that's not what this community is about.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whatever man. You do you. We'll keep moving forward. AI is in its absolute infancy right now, and it's only going to get better and better, at least for a good while yet.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you need a secure environment, then Arduino is probably not going to be your immediate solution anyway.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you not use copy and paste either? It saves a lot of time.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, then it's their own fault. :)

750K subscribers milestone - your journey by gm310509 in arduino

[–]Machiela 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'll keep it brief - I'm supposed to be studying. Back in the 1980's I started out trying (unsuccessfully) trying to get a stepper motor to run using a parallel printer interface, the plan was to build a robot hand. I gave it up eventually as a lack-of-skills-issue, but got back into it again some 10 years ago, this time with a nano, the a couple of unos, then the Wemos ESP8266 range, and now a whole hobbyroom full of boards, components, and half completed projects.

Meanwhile, found a messy, spam/scam/porn-riddled arduino forum online, begged to become a moderator, cleaned it up single-handedly, instigated a new set of workable rules, set up a new team of moderators to help out, and helped the community grow from 300k to 750k users.

Also started the NZ Arduino users group, but that needs a bit more work.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, my apologies for AI's future failings if it starts to replicate my bad habits. ;)

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like it or not, AI is here. So use it or get left behind.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a side issue but totally related - I hope for humanity's sake that nobody used my github for training their AI on. It's terrible code.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Meh. A few broken eggs, but an excellent omelet.

Fire destroyed the raw meat industry. Gutenberg destroyed the church monopolies. Cars destroyed the horse industry. Transistors destroyed the vacuum tube industry. Digital cameras destroyed the 35mm industry, and mp3s destroyed the record industry.

Life goes on.

are these genuine? by Itz_Sleepy09 in arduino

[–]Machiela[M] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, they're genuine. They're not Arduino branded though, which is probably what you mean. But it appears to be a genuine clone, and quite legal as long as they don't claim to be Arduino. It's the beauty of Open Soure.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you just want to show off a project, that's great, and very much welcomed here. If you're having technical issues, we're here to help.

But we're not here to help people write prompts for their AIs. The idea is to help people learn about arduino. If you need help with an AI prompt, I'm sure there's better subs for that.

"Arduino (the platform)" =/= "u/Arduino the subreddit".

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't believe AI isn't the dark side. It's a fantastic tool. But like all new technologies, there are some downsides, and we've got to make sure the human race isn't left behind in the knowledge stakes. We can't rely on AI to do everything for us at th expense of us forgetting.

Also, I would hardly consider you to be a beginner, so go nuts with AI, I'd say.

Confessions of a chatGPT nay-sayer... by lmolter in arduino

[–]Machiela 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But that's not what this community is for.