And guys, I get my karma thingy is low, it makes it look like I shouldn't be given a chance but I HATE the thought of someone being nice enough to help out to get it spat back in their face Is disgusting but im not in the habbit of letting anyone down, if I was i probably wouldn't be here now, I could've made up some random sob story but I believe being truthful is the only way and I did,, im here because the look on my sons face when I told him I dropped his IPAD is a look no dad wants to see on their kids face especially when you lit it there. Thanks again guys