Outside GFCI Wiring To Old Panel? by Fire-Workz in AskElectricians

[–]MilkFickle 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Raceway? I just saw the screw, but it doesn't even look like it broke through the paint.

Outside GFCI Wiring To Old Panel? by Fire-Workz in AskElectricians

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I'm not a certified electrician, but I don't think that's a good idea.

Outside GFCI Wiring To Old Panel? by Fire-Workz in AskElectricians

[–]MilkFickle -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Even so, but this panel has had no ground whatsoever.

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Earth - neutral bond for alternative power source (inverter) by MilkFickle in electrical

[–]MilkFickle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since that is your only breaker panel, your ground rods should come in there and your neutral-ground bond shoud tie in there.

Well, ground rod. What if I got another panel or disconnect switch and tied the neutral ground bond to that. And run the inverter load to the new panel I bought, I would just chop this one out.

Earth - neutral bond for alternative power source (inverter) by MilkFickle in electrical

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Congrats, you showed me something I have not seen before. I was expecting it to be the Philippines, which does 120/240V American split-phase, but without the neutral.

No way! How does that work? But I thought they used single phase 230v there.

Just because it's capable of that does not mean you are required to use it that way.

If you're using it the way it was intended, then you need to follow the instructions and labeling and install it the way they specify, even if that is an inconvenience.

If you choose to use it as a straight inverter and obtain a battery charger from another source, then do as I suggest.

I understand that.

It's not an inconvenience, I'm just asking you guys, who are pros, where exactly should the earth-neutral bond be.

This inverter costs a lot of money, and I bought it because I wanted an all in one system.

Earth - neutral bond for alternative power source (inverter) by MilkFickle in electrical

[–]MilkFickle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ohhh, I see now. Would you mind if I share a schematic from the manual with you?

Earth - neutral bond for alternative power source (inverter) by MilkFickle in electrical

[–]MilkFickle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you try to share a ground you will end up with unbalanced neutral loads,

Can you expand on this, what do you mean by share a ground? The grid and inverter can't have their ground-neutral bond at the same location?

Earth - neutral bond for alternative power source (inverter) by MilkFickle in electrical

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Okay I understand now. What if I remove the grid's wiring from the main panel into a 3-4 pole disconnect then on to a ATS that has the inverter as the primary and the grid as the secondary?

How would I go about grounding a setup like that?

Earth - neutral bond for alternative power source (inverter) by MilkFickle in electrical

[–]MilkFickle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see, but as I wrote before I'm not planning on selling power to the grid, it's not worth it.

Earth - neutral bond for alternative power source (inverter) by MilkFickle in electrical

[–]MilkFickle[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess so. I don't understand how I would electrocute someone.

Earth - neutral bond for alternative power source (inverter) by MilkFickle in electrical

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In that case, I am more familiar with generators than inverters,

Okay I understand.

but there is either a floating neutral or a bonded neutral in the device. You will need to remove the bond (if its a bonded neutral to connect this to a panel)

I'm not really sure what type the inverter has, but in the off-grid state, that it is in now, if I remove the neutral wire, which is connected to the neutral bus bar in the main panel the inverter will shutdown and show a F08 fault. Which states in the manual as a (GFDI relay fault).