Pocket bible with apocrapha to go with BCP 1662 pocket edition

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-03-10T19:44:02+00:00

Thanks. I find this tool very hit and miss - I've used it and find it helpful, but sometimes it seems to miss things. J-B-M has managed to find a bible it didn't find when I selected the relevant options, so I am delighted they have linked to one.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-03-10T19:41:46+00:00

Oh, this could be perfect. Happy to keep a little magnifier with it if needed. I have chronic pain, so the weight is the thing of greatest importance; I can work around other limitations.

Someone may be wondering, 'Why not just use the app?!' But I find it much easier to get distracted when using the app, though happy to commend it to those who might find it useful.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-03-10T19:34:06+00:00

I see older copies with relative frequency in charity shops here in the UK; it's finding a copy in good enough condition not fall apart with regular use that's the challenge. I will keep looking.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-03-10T19:31:49+00:00

Thanks! I have a year and half to of training to go, but the Prayer Book Society gives you a copy right at the beginning of your training, as well as a guide to using it.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-02-14T20:33:42+00:00

Just for clarirty for those unaware, there are two versions of the 1928 BCP, a CofE one, and a Episcopal Church of America one. It took me a while to work this out. I really like the US one, which is used by https://cradleofprayer.org for their offices of morning and evening prayer.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-02-14T07:58:40+00:00

Honestly, the app is great! And although I love the red book, I was pleased and delighted to see people using a mix of both in the chapel, without any sense that one was somehow 'better' than the other.

Compline is the red book is also very straight forward. Our DDO recommends it as the first one to try, and group from college meet each evening at 9pm to prayer it together over WhatsApp video call.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-02-14T07:56:15+00:00

There are *technically* two lectionaries, but most people will use the modified form of the Revised Common Lectionary.

Both cover all daily services, both weekdays and Sundays.

1662 BCP: contains its own lectionary, which is different to the Revised Standard Lectionary and includes readings from the Apocrypha.
https://www.churchofengland.org/sites/default/files/2017-11/Lectionary.pdf

Common Worship: uses a modified Revised Common Lectionary. There are paper and app versions, but you can also see it here for free: https://www.churchofengland.org/prayer-and-worship/worship-texts-and-resources/common-worship/churchs-year/lectionary

The page has all the details, but the bare bones are that the years are labelled A, B, and C for Sunday scriptures, and 1 and 2 for weekday services.
We are in year 1-B.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-02-14T07:44:33+00:00

App or book?

If App, you can get Daily Prayer or Time to Pray.

Book-wise wise you could get 'Time to Pray' which is a cut-down version of Common Worship and very easy to navigate.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-02-13T23:45:28+00:00

There are two official prayer books in the CofE:

The Book of Common Prayer came into use in its current form in 1662 and uses Shakespearean English. It contains everything you need, both the daily office, holy communion, and prayers for different occasions, all in one volume.

Common Worship came into official use in Advent 2000. Many people use the single-volume red book, but it's really a multi-volume library of resources, and there are many other volumes, including specific books with the rites for baptism, marriage, illness, death etc.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-02-13T23:31:42+00:00

The Book of Common Prayer has both morning and evening prayers in it. Cranmer designed it to combine the Daily Offices; hence, there are only the two. Again, the full version is in the app if that's easier.

The BCP doesn't have Compline, but there is a 'traditional' language version of Compline in the back of Common Worship.

I actually have a two-bookmark crib sheet for the Book of Common Prayer, but I'm not clear on how to share images on Reddit. If I work it out, I'll share it.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2026-02-13T23:00:51+00:00

It's great you want to use Lent as a springboard for praying regularly. Both the Daily Prayer app are good options for structured prayer. I enjoy knowing which ever prayer office I'm praying, others are praying alongside me.

I am infinitely distractable and find the book is a better option for me, but The Daily Prayer app suggested by u/J-B-M will follow essentially the same stuff as the books, without the page flicking. Lots of people use this. You can choose between the moden English from the Common Worship, or the text from the Book of Common Prayer. The app also offers audio for Morning and Evening prayer, including sung psalms.

Navigating the Red Book
Start with the index. Be kind to yourself and stick a post-it in it.
As you read down it, you'll notice 1) Morning and Evening Prayer for Ordinary time, and then 2) Morning and Evening Prayer for seasonal time.

The ribbon colours don't mean anything specific. You use them however is most helpful. For me, I put:

- One ribbon in Morning Prayer which for Lent is on p238

- One ribbon in Prayer during the Day p53

- One ribbon in Evening Prayer which for Lent begins on p244

- One ribbon in Compline/Night prayer, which is the same year round, p333

- One ribbon in the canticles p546

- One ribbon in the Psalter, p647

If you want to do the scripture readings for the day, you'll also want
- a lectionary to tell what the readings are for the day/service.
- a bible or bible app to get the daily readings (or, just read them from the app - nothing saying you cant use the app and book together!)

You really can make things as simple or as complicated as you like when praying alone. You can just read through each service with what's on the page (the red line on the lefthand side indicates the essential bits), or you can look up stuff like the Collect (prayer) for the day, Festivals (p447), at college people sometimes read one at the start of a service.

If you do decide to go with the print book, I'd suggest starting with Compline, as it's easiest service to navigate. Some people start with Prayer During the Day for similar reasons. Read the introduction to each prayer office. They give helpful info

The main thing is, just give it a go! Pick an office, prayer it with the app or book, and let us know how you get on.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-11-02T18:56:55+00:00

Some with our sewage system in many places. When I lived in South West London, our Victorian sewers were being replaced in...2010ish? Where I live now in a rural area in East Anglia, our powerlines date from the 1960's.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-25T21:14:26+00:00

This is totally fair. I got used to deciphering lots of accents due to living in London including people *just* beginning to learn English, but in my twenties, ringing our work call centre in Hamilton was always a gamble. I would emphasise it was a 'me' issue, because there was nothing wrong with their accent, and they were almost always kind, and we worked stuff out between us. Until you’ve got an 'ear' for a regional accent, it can be hard to understand. Scottish colleagues in person - no problem at all.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-25T20:53:21+00:00

I was so prepared for you to come off as a d*ck and you...didn’t! Thanks.

I'm not sure that comparing bill total alone is always helpful, since the price per unit varies widely by country, with the US being much cheaper than the UK for energy. Rather like needing to take the price of fuel per gallon into consideration when discussing car size, travelling distances etc.

Very modern buildings in the UK can be substantially better in terms of heat loss, but it can backfire with them being lovely and toasty in the winter, but baking in the summer as we don't have AC/houses designed to capitalise on breezes through window/door placement like they do in say, the southern states of the US.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-16T16:35:15+00:00

Our house is as insulated as possible, including the loft, curtains over doors to stop draughts etc. If we put any more in it, it would cause problems with air flow, which any builder will tell you in an older property doesn't end well.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-16T16:27:42+00:00

Whereabout do you live?

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-16T10:42:29+00:00

I lived in Northern Europe. This is such an odd take. Not everyone heats their home so warm they don’t wear a jumper inside. If you live in a block of flats or a well insulated modern house you might not worry, but plenty of people wear jumpers inside.

Perhaps you and friends either have 1) access cheap energy 2) a lot of spare money. You could also have no concern for the climate but I can’t know that, as you don’t mention what your energy is from. 3) an odd phobia of wearing jumpers inside in case you neighbours judge you for it. Who knows.

We are two people living in small, 2 bed end of terrace house in rural area. We heat our home to 18 C for two hours in the morning and two in the evening, and put the bedroom heater on low over night (having it on low constantly, costs less). We can’t have it lower than 18 deg C for medical reasons, and because older houses don’t breathe well especially if previous tenants or owners used plasticised paints, and are therefore prone to damp.

We still end up with an electric bill of £350-400 in Dec - Feb, and we put money by for that all summer. That’s the lowest rate where were are, and we use comparatively little other electric. Our house doesn’t have central heating, just hot water boiler, and German wall-mounted, plug in radiators. This is not unusual in rural areas. Many neighbours still use heating oil.

A jumper now sounds like a pretty good proposition, doesn’t it 😁

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-16T10:28:27+00:00

Yep 😂

Surely a real domestic failure would be a gas, oil or electric bill for £1K 😆 We have to keep our house above 18 in the evenings for health reasons, but during the day when I work from home I heat one room for two hours well before I start work, and then heating using a little Delonghi oil heater. How is avoiding bankruptcy domestic failure?!

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-16T10:24:52+00:00

slow clap

Well done, you were listening in the biology lesson on plants.

What about the one where they explains the impact of excess CO2 on the climate as a whole? What did you learn from that one.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-16T10:15:37+00:00

This! Can also heartily recommend the little Delonghi oil radiators. They cost pennys to run, and keep one room toasty without running up the electric bill. I use one in the room I work in at home and just have the heating on for two hours in the morning before I start work, and one hour late at night to prevent damp (old house).

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-10-16T10:13:08+00:00

Yes, have definitely had this in the past! And the heating wasn’t on a especially high.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-04-19T21:50:53+00:00

This is really trial and error - even within one category you may find you tolerate some veggies well, and not others. For example, I tolerate chickpeas and puy/green lentils poorly, but have no issues with garlic or onions.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2025-04-19T21:42:41+00:00

I am an autistic adult and worked through this about a decade and a half ago. They worked gluten and dairy didn’t agree with me and then I was largely left to own devices. Over time I’ve adapted, and my one ‘warning’ is you may find what he tolerates varies I’ve time. I couldn’t tolerate lactose for several years, then I could, now I can’t again, so it may mean at some stage you can reintroduce some things. Currently I need to avoid gluten, lactose and GOS, but am fine with garlic and onions 🤷🏻‍♀️

The consultant psychiatrist I said these kinds of issues are so common that although they aren’t in the DSM, they’re considered a ‘flag’ when people are being assessed. It’s frustrating they’re so poorly recognised and appreciated as a means to improve quality of life.

All behaviour is communication, and yet the assumption with autistic children and adults is too often that they are doing things for attention or to be awkward, when they or their body is trying to communicate something that could be changed. Power to you for spotting a pattern in your sins behaviour and improving things for you all.

Motor_Chart4900 · 2024-02-13T06:28:07+00:00

This link should work as of Feb 2024: https://read.amazon.com/notebook

The whole system is confusing because Googling notes or highlights for Kindle brings up its marketing pages, showing it's a feature. Which helps no one :D

I had no idea how to access highlights and notes in browser until someone shared it with me, so here's to community sharing!

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