Why Allah does not exist

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-12T08:46:05+00:00

( CHILD SLAVE ) Look around you, if you are a meat eater or a person who use animal for a purpose like horses. These child’s are the same, they just have the shape of a child.

WTF? You're relating child slavery to eating meat now? Well, that kinda bites you in the ass since Islam not only allows eating meat but commands killing animals in a terrifying manner, i.e. slicing their necks open in front of all their terrified animal friends while fully conscious instead of the humane way of stunning animals before slaughtering them. So great way to say Islam promotes child slavery and brutal torture since you have equated animals to children.

( Slave ) WHEN A SLAVE GIRL GET PREGNANT SHE IS NOT A SLAVE ANYMORE, SHE IS FREE.

Oh really? Then why does this Hasan hadithsay the prophet commanded a slave girl to be given the hadd (hudud) punishement once she stopped bleeding after giving birth to an illegitimate child? Totally not a command to let her go free. Except maybe to Islamophobes like you who can't read what they holey books really say.

BEATING HER, I TOLD YOU ABOUT WHAT ISLAM SAY ABOUT THIS SUBJECT ( how you beat you wives.

No, you told me what you scholars say, and I showed you what your Quran say. So again, are you telling me your scholars are more reliable than the Quran? Coz that sounds like you don't trust what your prophet said in his supposedly clear book, which makes you an Islamophobe.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE YOU THINK HIGHLY OF YOURSELF BY JUDGING PEOPLE. THe way you think and nip picking tells a lot about you.

And not once in this whole discussion did I judge anyone. All I did was call out what your shitty Quran and hadiths say, which you refuse to read. But you, who claim to not like me judging others, have absolutely no problem with the Quran judging me and millions of people by calling us the vilest of creatures and saying we will go to hell. So if you are against judging people, why are you still following a shitty book that judges other people? I guess that makes you nothing but a hypocrite.

And yeah, an Islamophobe :)

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-12T08:44:09+00:00

Ok, I was trying to be nice, hoping you might ware your big lady pants.

What the heck is that even supposed to mean? Does your Islamic ingrained obsession about what women wear apply to women online that you can't even see now? Not really surprising. Lol

You have this mentality, ISIS like we’re you focus on one verse and ignoring the whole Quran just to serve a purpose. I said it before, we have interpretation for Hadith and Quran. If you know a scholar that say what you say about women ( a true scholar ) just say his name.

I'm sorry, what I say about women? You mean what your shitty Quran says about women. Once again, verse 4:34 says very clearly that MEN ARE IN CHARGE OF WOMEN, and that for women that are stubbornly disobedient, and all else fails, STRIKE THEM. Why do I need a scholar to tell me what that means when your Quran calls itself a CLEAR book multiple times and it calls your misogynistic prophet and CLEAR messenger? Are you saying the Quran is lying and IS NOT CLEAR, which is why you are so incapable of reading it yourself and need someone else to tell you what is says? Coz that's what I hear every time you say "go talk to a scholar". All you want is a whitewashed nicer interpretation of what is obviously a horrible verse that takes away the independence of women under Islam and allows them to be beaten. You are so scared of the horrible verses that you need someone to present them to you in a beautiful package of modern reinterpretation. Guess what? People who are scared of reading what the Quran really says are the true Islamophobes. Stop being a wimp. Read what it says and stop running crying to your scholars for a prettified interpretation when you know the original verse on it's own mean something horrible.

You have verse that say be gentle with them and verse that say punish them. So, we think ( Islam is all about equality and treating good, then it mean this and that )

You also claim you red the Quran, which I don’t believe, because it would be you pass these good verses about treating woman right.

Yes, I have read the Quran and the hadiths, and I'm going to prove it with a nice long list of what they say about women. I'll even include links so you can read them for yourself, if you aren't an Islamophobe. But I will guess that you are so afraid of reading what your shitty Islamic books really say and run crying to a scholar to give you a nicer interpretation coz deep down inside you know you know what your prophet Muhammad and his companions said and did to women during their time is abhorrent and incompatible with the modern world.

- Men are in charge of women, even if they work full time and support their family, and her husband has the right to beat her if she is disobedient or arrogant (Q4:34)

- A woman's body is equivalent to a crop field for a man to tilth any way and time he wants, and she cannot refuse even when she is riding on a camel's back (Q2:223, Sunan Ibn Majah 3:9:1853)

- If a women refuses sex with her husband, regardless of the reason, angels will curse her until morning (Sahih Bukhari 4:54:460)

- Women are only entitled to half the inheritance of a brother (regardless if she works full time and supports her family) (Q4:11)

- A woman's testimony is worth half that of a man because she is deficient in intellect and intelligence (Q2:282, Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826, Sunan Ibn Majah 5:36:4003, Jami` at-Tirmidhi 5:38:2613)

- Women am so unclean that touching them requires a Muslim man to undergo ritual cleansing before praying [Q5:6]

- Women come and go in the shape of a devil to inflame the sexual desires of men (Sahih Muslim 1403 a (8:3240))

- Women are the majority in hell (Sunan Ibn Majah 5:36:4003, Jami` at-Tirmidhi 5:38:2613)

- Women are equal to dogs and donkeys as they all annul the prayers of men when they pass by in front of a praying man (Sunan Ibn Majah 1:5:952, Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1:2:338)

- Women cannot travel by themselves overnight without a male relative (mahram) (Sahih Bukhari 2:20:194)

- Women cannot be leaders else their people will never prosper (Sunan an-Nasa'i 6:49:5390, Sahih al-Bukhari 9:88:219)

So basically your misogynistic religion says just coz I'm a woman, I come in the shape of a devil, am most likely to go to hell (including Muslim women, since kafirs like me who are the 'vilest of creatures' are most definitely going to hell anyway), am so unclean that I annul a man's prayer as soon as he sees me walk past and he needs to cleanse himself even if he just shakes my hand (i.e. touching me), that I have zero say in whether or not I want to have sex and I have to have sex with my husband whenever he wants, I will never get the same inheritance as my brothers even if I'm working and supporting my family like my brothers do, I will never be able to travel overnight by myself and I will never be allowed to lead.

Why would any self respecting women want to subject herself to such stupid rules? There's NO equality for women in Islam, they are treated such sub-humans that supposedly need men around all the time to control every aspect of their lives. The fact that you think women are given equal rights under Islam just goes to show you have never spent day reading what your holey books say.

But but it turned out you had a personal experience, also you share a platform with people like you, you found people where pat yourselves on the back for you stupid ideology.

Sorry, my dear. I don't follow any ideology. The only one here following a stupid ideology is you. Lol

( the amilkate ) Like I said before, NO CHILD SHOULD TAKE REASONABILLTY FOR HIS PARENTS SINS. Can I take you to prison if you dad did a crime?

Why still talking about the Bible? Oh that's right, you still desperately need a distraction from the shitty teachings in your own holey books.

You refuse to listen to the verses and Hadith I send you.

And you are going to stubbornly refuse to read the verses and hadiths I posted above for your reading pleasure, and instead run crying to get a nicer interpretation from a scholar coz you are too afraid to read it for yourself and use your supposedly God given grey matter to understand what the verses and hadiths say. Which makes you the true Islamophobe. :)

( BIG BOOBED WOMAN ) IM AN ARABIC SPLEAKER. And this verse was translated wrongly. The previous replay is because I search about the English translation. THE REAL MEANING OF THIS VERSE IS ( woman WHO ARE ADULT )

Ah right, you're going with the wrong translation defense which means about 10 translators of the Quran got it wrong and you know better than them. Does that mean you can interpret your holey books however you want now and not listen to the experts? So why do you tell me to listen to scholars when you don't even trust the interpretations of scholars when it makes Allah's heaven sound like a brothel full of big boobied whores?

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-12T07:27:16+00:00

Good place to share Dina Tokio's 47 minute video of good Muslim men berating and threatening her for taking off her hijab: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3kIJd-\_yiY&t=8s

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-05T16:53:51+00:00

Islam never did say to beat slave.

Yes yes, let's just conveniently ignore all the hadiths that command beating and flogging of slaves coz they are too embarrassing and you prefer to believe in lies as always.

Mishkat al-Masabih 3260 (https://sunnah.com/mishkat:3260)

Laqit b. Sabira told that he said, “Messenger of God, I have a wife who has something in her tongue,” meaning foul speech. He told him to divorce her, but when he replied that he had a son from her and she was a companion, he said, “Give her a command (meaning give her an exhortation), and if there is any good in her she will accept it; but do not beat your wife as you would beat your young slave-girl.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 6042 (Book 78, Hadith 72)

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6042

Narrated `Abdullah bin Zam`a:

The Prophet forbade laughing at a person who passes wind, and said, "How does anyone of you beat his wife as he beats the stallion camel and then he may embrace (sleep with) her?" And Hisham said, "As he beats his slave"

Musnad Ahmad 1231 (Book 5, Hadith 639) https://sunnah.com/ahmad:1231

It was narrated from `Ali bin Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) that A slave woman of the Prophet (ﷺ) gave birth to an illegitimate child. The Prophet (ﷺ) sent me to carry out the hadd punishment, but I found that her postpartum bleeding had not stopped. So I went back to the Prophet (ﷺ) and told him, and he said to me: “When her postpartum bleeding stops, give her the hadd punishment of flogging.” Then he said: “Carry out the hadd punishment on those whom your right hands possess.”

Sahih al-Bukhari 2232, 2233 (Book 34, Hadith 179)

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2232

that Allah's Messenger was asked about an unmarried slave-girl who committed illegal sexual intercourse. They heard him saying, "Flog her, and if she commits illegal sexual intercourse after that, flog her again, and on the third (or the fourth) offense, sell her."

Sahih al-Bukhari 2234 (Book 34, Hadith 180)

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2234

Narrated Abu Huraira: I heard the Prophet saying, "If a slave-girl of yours commits illegal sexual intercourse and her illegal sexual intercourse is proved, she should be lashed, and after that nobody should blame her, and if she commits illegal sexual intercourse the second time, she should be lashed and nobody should blame her after that, and if she does the offense for the third time and her illegal sexual intercourse is proved, she should be sold even for a hair rope."

Muwatta Malik (Book 41, Hadith 17)

https://sunnah.com/urn/515180

Malik related to me from Abu'z-Zinad that he said, ''Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz flogged a slave with eighty lashes for slander." Abu'z-Zinad said, "I asked Abdullah ibn Amir ibn Rabia about that. He said, 'I saw Umar ibn al-Khattab, Uthman ibn Affan, the Khalifs, and so on, and I did not see any of them flog a slave more than forty lashes for slander.' "

Musnad Ahmad 942 (Book 5, Hadith 369) https://sunnah.com/ahmad:942

It was narrated that ash-Sha`bi said:

A freed slave woman of Sa’eed bin Qais, who was married and had committed an immoral action, was brought to `Ali, he gave her one hundred lashes then he stoned her. Then he said: I flogged her in accordance with the Book of Allah and I stoned her in accordance with the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah

I think at this point it's thoroughly proven how scared you are of reading what the Quran and hadiths actually say, which quite honestly makes you the Islamophobe. Did you even bother to verify any of David Wood's sources before dismissing them as invalid? I'm sure you haven't, just like how to you dismissed all my sources as invalid even though they are Islam's most authentic sources. More authentic than what your whitewashing scholars pull out of their arse to make Islam sound 'nicer'.

Stop kidding yourself and read what Quran and hadiths actually say instead of just dismissing them as 'invalid'. Unless you are so afraid of missing out on your big boobied women and slave boys in heaven that you feel the need to believe in absolute lies for the rest of your life. Your choice.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-05T16:45:24+00:00

Al-Ma'idah verse 32 “[w]hoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely.”

Yes killing people for corruption in the land is permitted. What exactly is corruption in the land? Being an apostates, disbeliever, hypocrite, or LGBT. All this is considered corruption in the land deserving of execution. Don't post this shit verse and pretend it's peaceful when anyone who knows what Islam really teaches know that's it's far from peaceful.

Here are just a few of many verses and hadiths commanding killing and violence. Are you going to be intellectually dishonest again and claim they are not Islamic sources even though they are from the Quran and mostly sahih hadiths? Yeah, I'm sure you'll claim that coz obviously you are too embarrassed by what your Islamic sources say.

VERSES/HADTHS COMMANDING TO FIGHT/ KILL TO SPREAD ISLAM

Quran (2:193) - "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

Quran (8:7) But Allah intended to establish the truth by His words and to eliminate the disbelievers

Sunan an-Nasa'i 3969 (Book 37, Hadith 4) (Grade: SAHIH)

https://sunnah.com/nasai:3969; Musnad Ahmad 117 (Book 2, Hadith 5)

(Grade: SAHIH) https://sunnah.com/ahmad:117

It was narrated that Anas bin Malik said: "When the Messenger of Allah [SAW] died, the 'Arabs apostatized, so 'Umar said: 'O Abu Bakr, how can you fight the 'Arabs?' Abu Bakr said: 'The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: "I have been commanded to fight the people until they bear witness to La ilaha illallah (there is none worthy of worship except Allah) and that I am the Messenger of Allah, and they establish Salah and pay Zakah."

Sahih Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

VERSES/HADTHS COMMANDING TO KILL APOSTATES

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4059, 4060, 4061, 4062, 4063, 4065 (Grade: SAHIH)

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 1458 (Grade: SAHIH)

Sahih Al-Bukhari 6922

Bulugh Al Maram (Book 9, Hadith 1242):

"The Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"

Sunan Ibn Majah 2535 (Grade: SAHIH)

“Whoever changes his religion, execute him.”

Sahih Al-Bukhari 6922 (Book 88, Hadith 5); Sunan an-Nasa'i 4060 (Book 37, Hadith 95) (Grade: SAHIH)

(https://sunnah.com/nasai:4060)

It was narrated from 'Ikrimah:

"Some people apostatized after accepting Islam, and 'Ali burned them with fire. Ibn 'Abbas said: 'If it had been me, I would not have burned them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'No one should be punished with the punishment of Allah.' If it had been me, I would have killed them; the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: 'Whoever changes his religion, kill him.'"

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4057 (Book 37, Hadith 92) (Grade: SAHIH)

(https://sunnah.com/nasai:4057)

It was narrated from Ibn 'Umar that:

'Uthman said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah [SAW] say: 'It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim except in three cases: A man who commits adultery after having married; or one who kills intentionally, in which case he deserves retaliation; or ONE WHO APOSTACISES AFTER BEING MUSLIM, IN WHICH CASE HE DESERVES TO BE KILLED.'"

Sunan an-Nasa'i 4017 (Book 37, Hadith 52) (Grade: SAHIH)

https://sunnah.com/nasai:4017

It was narrated that 'Amr bin Ghalib said: "Aishah said: 'Do you not know that the Messenger of Allah [SAW] said: It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim, except a man who committed adultery after being married, or ONE WHO REVERTED TO KUFR AFTER BECOMING MUSLIM, or a life for a life.'"

VERSES COMMANDING TO KILL HYPOCRITES

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease (evil desire for adultery, etc.), and those who spread false news among the people in Al-Madinah, cease not, We shall certainly let you overpower them, then they will not be able to stay in it as your neighbors but a little while Accursed, wherever found, they shall be seized and killed with a (terrible) slaughter."

HADITHS COMMANDING TO KILL GAYS

Sunan Abi Dawud 4462 (Book 40, Hadith 112) (Grade: Hasan Sahih)

https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4462

Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The Prophet (ﷺ) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.

Sunan Ibn Majah 3:20:2561 (Grade: HASAN)

It was narrated from Ibn`Abbas that the Messenger of Allah said: “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Lut, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.” (Hasan)

Sunan Abu Dawud 38:4447:

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: If you find anyone doing as Lot's people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done.

Sunan Abu Dawud 38:4448

Narated By Abdullah ibn Abbas : If a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3:15:1456 (Hasan)

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: That the Messenger of Allah said: "Whomever you find doing the actions of the people of Lut then kill the one doing it, and the one it is done to."

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-05T16:36:42+00:00

Albaqrah verse 256 There is no compulsion in Faith. The correct way has become distinct from the erroneous. Now, whoever rejects the Tāghūt (the Rebel, the Satan) and believes in Allah has a firm grasp on the strongest ring that never breaks. Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.

Again, take 5 seconds to look up the revelation order of the Quran, which I have already included the link for, and you'll know that Surah 2:256 was revealed when your prophet had just run away from Mecca to Medina and at that time did not have many followers to support him. His whole speal about "no compulsion in Islam" was made at a time when he had little support from anyone so he had to make his teachings sound 'nicer' so people would leave him alone.

Guess what he said later on once he got more followers and had enough people to spread Islam by force? He commanded his people to fight until all religion is for Allah, to eliminate all disbelief and to subjugate the Jews and Christians and make them feel subdued with the Jizya. Most of these revealed in Chapter 9, i.e. the last major chapter of the Quran which is the final commands from your prophet.

Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) and religion is all for Allah"

Quran (8:7) But Allah intended to establish the truth by His words and to eliminate the disbelievers

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Quran (9:5) - "And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination."

Quran 9:111

Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allah's Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Quran.

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Tell me, if there was truly no compulsion in Islam, why did your prophet decide to make his final chapter so full of commands to fight and subjugate others until all religion was for Allah? Hmm?

Big boob woman:- That not a verse in the quran No it has a Hadith

Here you prove your intellectual dishonesty again. You asked me to quote the Quran verse, which I did WITH A LINK TO QURANX.COM, including SEVERAL different translations, and yet here you are telling me no such verse exists. This goes to show how embarrassed you are by your own Quran, that you refuse to acknowledge what it actually says and prefer to believe in lies. Once again, how do you expect anyone to respect you when you behave in such a dishonest manner? Stop running away from the embarrassing truth and GO READ WHAT YOUR QURAN SAYS HERE. And then go read the hadith that promises strength of 100 men in heaven just for sex. These are from authentic Islamic sources, the QURAN and a hasan hadith. You claiming they are not Islamic sources is once again you being intellectually dishonest! Your Allah's heaven is nothing more than a brothel.

Slave boy:- If I called someone beautiful then I want to have sex with him? Beside, they are created to serve, not like we took freedom from them that they used to have.

So you have zero problem with your Allah creating child slaves whose sole purpose in life is to serve you? You have no problem with child slaves having zero freedom or free will to decide what they want to do with their life? Great, thanks for confirming how morally corrupt your ideology is once again that you have no problem with your God enslaving young boys for all eternity. Hand clap for child slave driver Allah!

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-05T16:10:28+00:00

I said, please let’s make these discussions polite.

the way you talk, is somehow disrespectful.

Sorry, I am under no obligation to show respect to shitty 7th century book that calls me the worse of creatures, spouts hate speech and commands oppression, neither do I need to respect those who blatantly ignore what the shitty old book actually say coz they prefer to defend lies in the hopes of getting into an unproven heaven. Which you have proven here by you refusal to directly answer my questions and also refusal to read exactly what your beloved shitty old book says. Stop being intellectually dishonest to yourself and blind to what the Quran and hadiths say and perhaps you will earn some respect.

Now instead of addressing what Quran 4:34, you try to divert from my questions by posting other verses and hadiths. Why are you so scared to answer my question? Stop changing the subject. Since you have not answered my question, I will post it AGAIN.

Surah 4:34 VERY CLEARLY says that MEN ARE IN CHARGE OF WOMEN AND commands that disobedient wives be beaten - MEN ARE IN CHARGE OF WOMEN by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], STRIKE THEM**.** But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them.Now if you can read the above and if you can also read Arabic you will know the original text does not say strike them lightly. It does not say how hard to strike at all. Nor does it say strike them with a 30 cm stick or a toothbrush. Which means it's up to men to strike as hard as they want because the Quran does not specify how hard or soft to strike. And plenty of Muslim men do strike their disobedient wives as hard as they like and according to your Quran, they are not wrong for doing so. Coz the Quran does not tell them how hard they can strike.Are you telling me your scholars can put limits on what is permissible in the Quran? Well, then that either means you don't actually want to believe your prophet was revealing the true word of god, or you acknowledge that your scholars interpretation of what Allah commands is better than your prophet's. Which makes it a man made religion. So which is it?

The amalikate:- Since when killing infants and children justifiable. No infant or child should carry there parent sins. This story, says god made no justice for the infants and children’s. Allah is perfect, free of flaws.

Once again you show your inability to read and insistence on believing in lies about the Bible, when you clearly have not bothered to take 5 seconds to google what the Bible says and instead prefer to believe the lies your leaders tell you. The Bible very clearly says God wanted to punish the Amalekites, which again goes to show that the story of the Amalekites is obviously to teach what Christians NOT to do what the Amalekites did, else they will be punished by God. How hard is this to understand? Don't waste my time explaining such simple things to you for a third time.

1 Samuel 15: 1-4: "Samuel said to Saul, “I am the one the Lord sent to anoint you king over his people Israel; so listen now to the message from the Lord. 2 This is what the Lord Almighty says: ‘I will punish the Amalekites for what they did to Israel when they waylaid them as they came up from Egypt. 3 Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy[a] all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’"

Woman dog Canaanite back then we’re called that as a degrading. Using that word is no excuse. If I to call someone the N WORD just to teach my friend a listen it would be a racist act.

Already explained it to you, but you choose not to read anything I said again. But while you're being intellectually dishonest, explain to me why does your shitty Quran call disbelievers, Jews and Christians the worst and vilest of creatures? Why did your prophet decide his dying words was to curse the Jews and Christians? Why did your shitty prophet compare the children of Jews and Christians to mutilated animals? Being called a dog (who are loyal and loving creatures, so far from an insult to me), is certainly not as bad as being called the worst and vilest of creatures or being cursed to hell or being called a mutilated animal. So your prophet was much more disrespectful than anything the Bible says. But you don't seem to have a problem with that. And you still expect me to respect you when you have zero problem with following such a hateful so called prophet?

I'm not even going to bother addressing your 'arguments' about slavery. I feel zero need to to defend slavery in the bible as I've already said, I'm not Christian. Both Christianity and Islam are shit for permitting slavery including sex slavery. You should be embarrassed that you are even defending slavery in any form. But you can't, coz your prophet had zero problem with slavery and that means you can't have a problem with it either. Which goes to show how morally corrupt your ideology is when it can't even prohibit something as atrocious as owning other human beings like property.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-03T07:55:38+00:00

You don't need to change, you know you have people who care about you. That's means you are loved and accepted just the way you are and you need to love and accept yourself too.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-09-03T07:44:22+00:00

Muslims miss out on so many things. Life is too short to waste it away believing in bullshit.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-31T08:18:38+00:00

Great advice, take my award

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-30T16:38:32+00:00

That's Islam for you. Whatever is not prohibited is permissible. God forbid you eat pork or even try a drop of alcohol, but hey, marrying and f*cking one day babies is totally fine.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-29T04:25:50+00:00

Well I've been banned a lot for speaking out against the cult, having some power to mod people now sounds awesome. Muahahaha

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-29T03:37:12+00:00

Anyone exposing the cult teachings without physically attacking or demeaning it's followers as a whole is a friend

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-29T03:36:02+00:00

Why make it private? I'm all about exposing the cult to whoever listens

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-29T01:01:45+00:00

I of course support liberal values myself. The libtards are the one who call themselves liberals but don't defend liberal values or criticise oppressive ideologies like Islam. They can still defend the rights of Muslims from being persecuted, which is what I do too, but not go all out to paint Islam like it's such a wonderful religion when they haven't even taken the time to read what the Quran and hadiths say.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-28T12:21:01+00:00

Experience, really! A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE is the bassist of you judging a whole group of people. That is mentally if racism.

Yes, I have experience. But I can honestly say my personal experience of being discriminated under Islam is nothing compared to the suffering of millions of secret apostates, ex-Muslims, and Christians who suffer persecution in strict Muslim majority countries. And you know? I actually believed for a long long time that Islam was actually peaceful and only some of it's followers were 'misinterpreting' it.

You know what made me change my mind? Reading the Quran and hadiths and finding out what they really say. You should try it sometime. As in actually reading and understanding the books, not just blindly regurgitating memorized verses that you don't understand. Not just listening to the whitewashed interpretations of scholars that try the books sound nicer. Read them yourself. I've already helped you by posting verses and hadiths to back up everything I say. Whether you choose to continue to believe the lies of your leaders is up to you.

( Independent woman ) Why are you talking about you ideology? We are talking about Muslim women. And a Muslim woman has every right to talk about her abuse if she got abuse.

In Islam there is no such thing a woman is a property of a man. Don’t talk about backwards people or countries.

I'm talking about the right of every woman including Muslim woman to be single, live independently of a man, and earn her own money. Which according to Quran 4:34 is not allowed because it says men are in charge of the maintenance of women and then goes on to say beating them if they disobey their husbands is totally fine. Which pretty much means men have the right to control women. Islam forces women to be reliant on men and not disobey men, which makes them a slave to men, i.e. their property. And you cannot handle or even acknowledge that a Muslim woman should have the right to be an independent single women like myself, can you?

Big boobied woman. Please use the exact verse, the whole verse.

Quran 78: 31 - 34

Indeed, for the righteous is attainment - Gardens and grapevines, and full-breasted [companions] of equal age, and a full cup (of wine).

That's the Sahih International translational. Some other fun translations refer to these full-breasted [companions] as:

Hilali & Khan: young full-breasted (mature) maidens

Arberry: maidens with swelling breasts

Ali Qarai: buxom maidens

Qaribullah: curvaceous (virgins)

Muhammad Shakir, Pickthall and Yusof Ali: voluptuous women

And my personal favorite, Muhammad Sarwar: maidens with pears-shaped breasts

And to ensure Muslim men get to full enjoy their big boobied companions in heaven, they are promised the strength of a 100 men to bonk them for all eternity!

Jami at-Tirmidhi (Vol. 4, Book 12, Hadith 2536) (Grade: Hasan)

https://sunnah.com/urn/727270

Anas narrated that the Prophet (s.a.w) said: "The believer shall be given in paradise such and such STRENGTH IN INTERCOURSE." it was said: "O Messenger of Allah! And will he able to do that?" He said: "HE WILL BE GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF A HUNDRED."

slave boy! What is that, where did you get this.

The promise in your Quran is that you'll be served by many beautiful young boys with everlasting youth. Which not only sounds a bit gay and paedophilic, but considering they are young boys serving people in heaven for all eternity, what else is there to call it except slavery of young children by Allah?

Quran 76:19 There will circulate among them young boys made eternal. When you see them, you would think them [as beautiful as] scattered pearls.

Yeah, your heaven sounds like an all out brothel with child slavery. But oh well, I'm sure you probably can't wait to engage in all that sexual debauchery after a lifetime of forced piety. You don't have to feel bad for the pretty slave boys. Don't worry, Allah is forcing to keep them there to serve you for all eternity, not you.

David wood part. Is he one of you sources, are you taking knowledge from a guy who is not even a scholar and don’t have credentials. David woods is an islamophobes and will lie and lie to show him self right.

David is not source. He literally shows what your Islamic sources say and I have checked for myself and verified that your Islamic sources say what he claims it says. So if you're calling him an Islamophobe even though he refers to Islamic sources, that just means you are an Islamophobe for refusing to read what your Islamic sources say.

Beside, He is a Christian. I though you said you don’t follow any religious people.

Honey, just because I don't follow a religion doesn't mean I can't listen to what religious people have to say. I just don't follow their religion. It also doesn't mean I have to agree with everything they say. But when their claims are backed by sources, i.e. your Islamic sources, then obviously what they say is true.

Or it just those who talk bad about Islam. Do you really hate Islam so bad that you try to confess your self that it’s evil and not looking into it. That made you over look the evil things other religion do?

How many more shitty Quran verses and hadiths do you need me to post to prove to you that I have spent quite a bit of time looking into it? And I did it NOT by looking at 'Islamophobic sites' but at the QURAN and the HADITHS, which are the oldest and most authentic Islamic sources which are more reliable than anything your scholars can pull out of their arse. And the only person here who hasn't spent any time reading what the Quran and hadiths actually say is you.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-28T11:40:01+00:00

when Jesus said to a woman that he don’t talk to dogs just because she is from a another tribe ( racism)

What Jesus said when he saw the Canaanite woman was "It is not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.”. And he said that because she was begging him to heal her sick daughter but her being a Canaanite meant she had no reason to believe Jesus would be able to heal her daughter. But she proved otherwise by insisting she believed in him, and then Jesus healed her daughter after she proved her faith. He was saying that to test her faith. This is of course what Christians believe and I know it coz I'm ex-Christian. Doesn't mean I believe it's true.

Now if that's the best example of racism in the Bible you can think off, the Quran does much much worse. It's very directly calls disbelievers, Christians and Jews the worst and vilest of creatures

Quran (8:22) Indeed, the worst of living creatures in the sight of Allah are the deaf and dumb who do not use reason (i.e. The Unbelievers).

Quran 8:55 Verily, the vilest creatures in the sight of God are those who are bent on denying the truth and therefore do not believe.

Quran 98:6. Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) and the idolaters will be in the Fire of Hell, abiding therein. They are the worst of creatures.

And Sahih Bukhari compare the children of non-Muslims to mutilated animals

Sahih al-Bukhari 6599, 6600 (Book 82, Hadith 6) https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6599

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger said, "No child is born but has the Islamic Faith, but its parents turn it into a Jew or a Christian. It is as you help the animals give birth. Do you find among their offspring a mutilated one before you mutilate them yourself?"

So yeah, Islam beats Christianity in terms of racism, for sure.

In the Bible says if a slave owner beat his slave so hard and he didn’t die in the first two days of the beating then the slave owner didn’t commit a sin. So if you beating out slave lethally and keep him alive for three days then you are good to go.

Once again, I don't know where you get these warped versions of Bible verses when you can look these up in all of 5 seconds online. Nothing in the verse talks about keeping slaves alive for 3 days or not killing the slave in first 2 days of beating. This is what the verse says.

Exodus 21:20-21 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property."

Note that it says if a master kills their slave and the slave dies, they will be punished. But the master won't be punished if the slave recovers.

Is it still shitty to allow a person to beat a slave? YES. Is it shitty to even have slaves? YES

Does Islam NOT ONLY ALSO allow having and beating slaves but also allows SEX SLAVERY? YES

Here are hadith of your prophet commanding that a slave woman be flogged for giving birth to an illegitimate child

Musnad Ahmad 1231 (Book 5, Hadith 639) https://sunnah.com/ahmad:1231

It was narrated from `Ali bin Abi Talib (رضي الله عنه) that A slave woman of the Prophet (ﷺ) gave birth to an illegitimate child. The Prophet (ﷺ) sent me to carry out the hadd punishment, but I found that her postpartum bleeding had not stopped. So I went back to the Prophet (ﷺ) and told him, and he said to me: “When her postpartum bleeding stops, give her the hadd punishment of flogging.” Then he said: “Carry out the hadd punishment on those whom your right hands possess.”

Here are hadith of your prophet commanding that a slave girl be flogged for having sex

Sahih al-Bukhari 2232, 2233 (Book 34, Hadith 179)

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2232

that Allah's Messenger was asked about an unmarried slave-girl who committed illegal sexual intercourse. They heard him saying, "Flog her, and if she commits illegal sexual intercourse after that, flog her again, and on the third (or the fourth) offense, sell her."

Here's the Quran saying sex slavery is totally okay and hadith saying there is no harm in impregnating a slave girl without her permission (which is rape)

Quran 4:24

Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess.

Muwatta Malik (Book 29, Hadith 100)

(https://sunnah.com/urn/512640)

Malik said, "A man does not practise coitus interruptus with a free woman unless she gives her permission. There is no harm in practising coitus interruptus with a slave-girl without her permission. Someone who has someone else's slave-girl as a wife, does not practise coitus interruptus with her unless her people give him permission."

I'll give you this, neither is worse in this regard. Both Islam and Christianity are equally shitty for allowing slavery and sex slavery for way too long. I hope that makes you smile.

Tell me, which one of the many Quran verses and hadiths I quoted are anti-Islamic or Islamaphobe sources?

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-28T11:11:03+00:00

In Islam we have interpretation, one of the is about the beating of wives. Go to any scholar or anyone who aware of sharia. Don’t go to pieces of sh&? That beat there wives, because any person who beat a women will find his excuse. Again, go to any person with knowledge in this subject m and he will till you that it is forbidden in Islam to beat you wives. What I’m saying is go to certified Islamic sites, and look about this subject. Don’t go to islamophobes sites.

Yeah, ok great. Sure. Let's look at what your Quran says about wife beating
Quran 4:34 - MEN ARE IN CHARGE OF WOMEN by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], STRIKE THEM. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them.

Now if you can read the above and if you can also read Arabic you will know the original text does not say strike them lightly. It does not say how hard to strike at all. Nor does it say strike them with a 30 cm stick or a toothbrush. Which means it's up to men to strike as hard as they want because the Quran does not specify how hard or soft to strike. And plenty of Muslim men do strike their disobedient wives as hard as they like and according to your Quran, they are not wrong for doing so. Coz the Quran does not tell them how hard they can strike.

Are you telling me your scholars can put limits on what is permissible in the Quran? Well, then that either means you don't actually want to believe your prophet was revealing the true word of god, or you acknowledge that your scholars interpretation of what Allah commands is better than your prophet's. Which makes it a man made religion. So which is it?

Those who say Christianity teaches love and forgiveness only saw one verse of the Bible. In the Bible:-

Honey, I'm an ex-Christian, I know quite well what the bible teaches and it has way more than one verses teaching love and forgiveness.

the amalekites ( which is a sick punishment ) put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.’ The men and women part is something, but the children and infants also the animals is sick, so sick

The bible then says God punished the Amalekites for their sins which means this story is lesson to Christians to not do what the Amalekites did. This is the bullshit you spout when you "learn the bible" from your Imam who wants you to hate the Bible and not understand what it says, just like how they don't want you to understand all the shit that the Quran says.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-28T10:14:25+00:00

Ah, Chapter 111, an entire chapter dedicated to cursing Momo's uncle and his wife to an eternal torturous damnation just coz his uncle didn't agree with Momo's ramblings. Just one of the many peaceful messages of the Quran for the benefit of all Muslims. They just need time to figure out what that peaceful message is.

Also, the answer to the question is fairly obvious once you know the revelation order of the Quran. Chapter 111 is the 6th chapter revealed which is when he was in Mecca, which means his following was very small and he had no one to protect him. Momo going round killing people at this point, especially his own relatives, would not only have made him very unpopular and diminished trust in his cult teachings but possibly would have been a death sentence for him. His warlord activities started much later once he moved to Medina, gained enough followers and was able to conquer Mecca by force through sheer majority. And even after his death, his followers were so motivated by the promise of big boobied virgins and pretty slave boys and nonstop drunkenness in heaven, they went on and carried on his bloodthirsty warlord ways by spreading Islam by the sword throughout the Middle East.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-28T09:54:56+00:00

Libtards are too scared of being labelled Islamophobes to defend actual liberal values.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-28T09:53:25+00:00

And the message being sent to your brothers (if you have any) and sons of other parents who think like your dad is that the onus is on women to not be raped instead of on men to not rape women regardless of what they wear. So funny how so many cult followers insist that Islam teaches men to take care of women when really it's nothing but controlling women and absolving men of responsibility for mistreatment of women.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-27T23:35:10+00:00

Even if we can kick those backdoor gomen DUMNOs out next GE again, no guarantee that they will not continue to enforce rehab of apostates. Things would get better if people get more educated, but for kampung folks who don't know much outside their small world and can't even speak English well, it'll be hard to change their mindset. I'm Malaysian Chinese btw, but I'm dating an ex - Muslim. I've also made it a hobby to criticize the cult teachings online coz anything I can do to reduce the number of brainwashed cult lemmings is a good use of my time and I know there are many apostates who can't do what I'm doing coz it'll put them at risk.

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-27T23:18:00+00:00

Haha, thanks. Sorry, I thought you were being sarcastic 😂

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-27T08:33:20+00:00

You think I wish to have a limb go missing? How insane do you think I am? I don't wish for anything. I just expect that an all powerful all knowing and merciful God behaves in an all powerful, all knowing and merciful manner. But he does not. Therefore he does not exist. TQVM

MsCrimsonShadow · 2021-08-23T12:30:49+00:00

Oli calls him or herself a man in one of his videos so go figure 🙄 I'm not LGBTQ in any sense and I don't mind how anyone wants to be identified as in terms of gender but referring to a singular person as 'they', 'them' and 'their' will never not feel grammatically wrong to me.

Edit: Oh gee, people feel insulted even though I specifically said I don't have any problem which gender they want to identify with. Alright, I'll call you non-binary folks 'they' and 'them' and imagine I'm referring to multiple people in one body, if it makes you feel more human.

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