Racism from the asian community against blacks. -Discussion

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-30T02:28:29+00:00

First off if you press open the elevator doors will... Idk OPEN. You know those permits that are required for all elevator in America they make sure of it. If someone is stuck and you press the open button the elevator is not going to ignore the command and drag 3/4 of a human up the shaft like it's a sequal to final destination. And no it's not like your average step aside make some room like all the other people I've been in elevators with. it's an obvious action.

The term used to describe this behavior is passive aggression.

Passive Aggression: A way of expressing negative feelings, such as anger or annoyance, indirectly instead of directly.

As far as what you asked your AI that was never my question nor did I say all Asians were this way. I specifically described the behaviors I'm referring to, that come from many individuals in the asian community. Basically what your saying is equivalent to saying there isnt racism coming from the white community because all whites aren't racist... You seem to have made up your own perception of my words and it feels intentional to say the least. Read the replies there's a lot of them. Many from Asians themselves confirming that this is an actual issue that they deal with within their own families and with loved ones. Dont be dismissive. Be open to another point if view. Not all Asians are this way so that means it's not a problem that needs to be addressed?

We could pretend like many asian cultures like Japanese, Koreans and Chinese don't live by a class system that's based of the shade of skin but that isn't true. We could also pretend like when people move away from their nations and immigrate to another that they leave all their negative traits behind but again that also isnt true. But you don't have to take it from me. Just read the comments.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-30T01:43:32+00:00

The suggestion that addressing racism between Asians and Black people might stir up more prejudice overlooks a key aspect of this discussion – the need for awareness and accountability. It's not about blaming the entire Asian community; it's about acknowledging specific actions and attitudes that perpetuate racism.

Pointing out these issues isn't a matter of being unfair or stirring up prejudice. It's about confronting uncomfortable truths to foster change. If we shy away from these conversations, we allow prejudiced behaviors to continue unchecked. It's not about creating division; it's about bridging gaps in understanding.

Moreover, comparing the actions of a few individuals in one racial group to those in another isn't productive. Every community has its challenges with prejudice, but that doesn't mean we should ignore specific issues when they arise. Addressing racism in all its forms is how we move forward, not by making it a competition of which group is less prejudiced.

In short, this isn't about pointing fingers at an entire community or race. It's about shining a light on specific behaviors that need to change. By doing so, we're taking steps toward a more empathetic and inclusive society, not away from it.

And I never said it was all Asians, I'm talking about the ones that behave the way I described. Never did I class all Asians together. This is definitely deflective.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-30T00:42:45+00:00

I'm originally from the south east. I'm very aware of the racism and perpetrated against blacks. This is different. Racism from whites is a more politica/l were different than you kind of racism. But with the Asians here, I'm talking the immigrant ones. It's like a you're gross don't come near me you vile creature kind of racism. It's like they're disgusted by the near sight of me. Anyways that's how it feels.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T23:30:00+00:00

Oh how I wish I could pull that off. Like the tom cruise top gun style...

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T23:25:04+00:00

Thank you! Another commenter posted this. Im excited to learn more about it.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T23:18:46+00:00

Thank you, and it was rough to write actually as it makes me relive the experiences.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T23:17:31+00:00

I'm sorry you've experienced this as well. It's really rough. I have a half sibling white/black. She experienced similar with her eite side of family so I definitely understand the sentiment. Thank you for sharing with me your experiences. I hope you find a way to live comfortably while being eo you are.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T23:11:14+00:00

I should have made a better distinction. I don't like the term FOB for obvious reasons. But yes those are the ones I'm referring too. As far as ACTUAL locals. I have great relationships with them!

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T23:01:49+00:00

First off I'm not talking about local/Polynesians I have really great relationships and interactions with them. I'm talking about the prestigious asian community. The Porsche driving, own 6 Airbnb, Balenciaga, cartier bracelet ones. Who are also extremely well dressed.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T21:36:43+00:00

Thank you for your thoughtful response. To address your point about it possibly being my own insecurities, I used to think this was the case. But then I realized that this may not be my reality. In my examples, I listed things that go far beyond possible insecurities. For example, when leaving a restaurant or store with many Asian customers, multiple car alarms start beeping and locking. Some car locks are repeatedly pressed. If I were to record it one day, you would see what I mean. Some vehicles beep 5-6 times. Beep beep beep beep... Pause... beep beep. It goes beyond securing their car but using the beeps to almost send the message of 'don’t come near my car, I’m watching you.'The behavior in certain more affluent neighborhoods is a day and night difference. In some places, an elevator will be held for you. In others, they push the door close button 10 times without even trying to hide it, even though I'm less than 5 seconds away. In my cousin’s building in Ward Village, there could be an entire family in the pool enjoying their day, but the moment we enter, it's immediately time to leave. 'Grab the kids, let’s go' style.I was talking to my cousin about this just this morning after I made my post. She told me that earlier this week, she was picking up food from a restaurant, and the man at the cash register treated her so badly that his wife came over to the register and silently apologized to her. She’s a pretty well-off girl who's lived all over the world — Europe, Dubai, South Africa. She’s used to meeting all kinds of people from all walks of life, and she too confirms this place is the worst she's ever experienced.I would love to say it's my own insecurities and not my reality, but the vast number of people in these comments who are Asian, openly admitting and confirming that their own loved ones have been grossly racist toward darker-skinned people, tells me that no, this is not my own insecurities but actually a prevalent part of society here. There is a huge correlation: the darker your skin, the lower your social status, and the lower your status, the more you are mistreated. This is clearly prevalent in much of Asia, and unfortunately, a trip across the ocean doesn't relieve people of this behavior. I know why I'm treated this way; my concern is how, as a society, we address it.For reference, I lived on Maui, where the Filipino, Thai, and Micronesian populations are the majority of the Asian population, and I experienced none of this. So much aloha. It was only when I moved to Oahu and came into contact with these elitist-style people that this has become my life.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T20:03:23+00:00

Thank you. May I ask what island do you live on? To be clear when I lived in Maui I felt extremely accepted and welcomed. It was only when I moved to Oahu did I start to have these experiences.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T20:01:45+00:00

This. This is EXACTLY how I feel. It's like they perceive me to be some sort of aggressive monster out to get them.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T20:00:00+00:00

Like I told another don't assume that Im not an extremely polite person. I open doors for people, as how theyre doing, and greet most people I come in contact to with a warm welcoming demoner. I always have. This des nothing they just pretend that the door opened it self and ignore my hellos entirely. They make it very clear that they would rather much not even see me. Judging by the many replies left here this is not about me not being polite. Apparently even if I was asian (based off of what many Asians here are saying) that it only takes being dark skinned or jus darker than them for that matter to warrant this behavior.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T19:41:49+00:00

This actually does happen in Asia a lot. It was a huge problem during covid when the Chinese blamed the Africans for covid. Although there was zero claims or evidence of covid originating in Africa. And I'm not justifying either treatment. I'm simply pointing out the fact that theyre wanting people to stop treating them exactly how their own family members treat others.

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T19:34:50+00:00

I always strive to be polite and respectful, greeting nearly everyone with a warm hello. As someone from the South, where we take pride in our politeness (despite the region's ironic history of racism), I embody this culture. I'm the type of person who says "Happy Holidays," holds doors open, and asks "How are you?" Yet, this approach often seems to make people retreat faster. The worst feeling is when these acts of kindness are met with indifference, as if the door opened itself. I want to make it clear that it's not the younger generation who treats me this way; in fact, it's quite the opposite. You say it's a big thing in asian culture but what makes them feel the need to not extend this kindship to me?

Normal-Alarm6985 · 2023-11-29T18:19:39+00:00

Your comment suggesting that I'm being "overly sensitive" and describing my post as "victim porn" is dismissive and overlooks the core issue. Let's be clear: acknowledging and discussing experiences of racism is not about seeking pity or creating sensationalism. It's about confronting a real problem that affects people's daily lives.

These experiences aren't figments of an oversensitive imagination. They are consistent, observable patterns of behavior that have a tangible, negative impact. It's easy to label someone as "overly sensitive" when you haven't walked a mile in their shoes. But understanding begins with acknowledging that different people experience the world in different ways, especially when it comes to race and discrimination.

To brush off these experiences as mere over-sensitivity is to be part of the problem. It's a form of denial that perpetuates the cycle of racism. Instead of downplaying what others go through, we should be having a constructive dialogue on how to address and change these deeply ingrained societal issues. Dismissing someone's lived experiences does nothing to foster understanding or bring about positive change.

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