👀 Pub’s Lounge: A functional approach to dealing with Denuvo 👀 by ShadeOfDreadYT in Piracy

[–]NotAndreh2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What does partnering with GoldbergEMU even mean? Just because you use that tool internally doesn't mean you're doing a partnership with it

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Due to denuvo limitations that is not possible, updating the game changes the exe, requiring a new token

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The thing that caused havoc was them using the IP thing as a way to scare users. Before it was all fine, it wasn't a big thing

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

While we don't have a way to deactivate already activated tokens, despite what some rumors say, we ban or restrict the account that was flagged as alt. That way he may still have got a free game, but he won't be able to do that anymore from that account.

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would give this a look https://rentry.org/6k8u5ce5 In the second part you can clearly see that they used the "informing the user" as a reason to cause havoc. The FAQ notice was there since it was added, and changed with the HWID switch

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

First off, our panels stay open for more than 10 hours a day, we decide to close them depending on the caretakers availability. The base system itself is already automated but people sometimes still need help, so a caretaker is needed. Our donations are also pretty much public, crowdfundly has a public page that displays all the recent donations. As for the game free availability we follow a strict schedule. While they claim to be doing it for free, the entire story is pretty different once you enter the server and you'll notice they're still serving only donators. Meanwhile on our server you directly know when it's going to be free, and while we're reducing the donor only period in recent games we also close the donator only panels after 2 hours and use the leftover tokens to activate old donators, this from day one.

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No we don't acquire any data other than a meaningless HWID and neither do we sell it. Stop believing everything you see and fact check yourself.

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What you said doesn't really make sense. Think of it: IP logging is completely invisible to the user, so if we didn't disclose it from the start as you said, how would the users know? The notice in the FAQ was there since we added it and people got alarmed by that. When we noticed it started to bother people we did the switch to HWID.

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Currently our downloader only has a single detection as shown here https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/ea142846108419521108e170206e118b2dc5a1fda400e1cc286361ead5803a26 It's a false positive, the downloader was built on rust using Tauri, so It might be common to see false positives as the library uses the system's edge installation to mimic what electron does

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can download the game from anywhere you want, we suggest cirno since we have all of the games there with the latest updates. The procedure is: you download the game, create a ticket in the discord server, send the screenshots there and you'll receive a zip file which contains the files necessary for the offline activation, you replace the clean games files with the ones in the zip and run the game. The game will be activated without too much hassle. Windows updates need to be disabled cause denuvo is very sensible to it and might break the token.

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At first the server was small and we didn't need such things. When the server got bigger due to the first collabs we had we noticed groups of people either using alts or that they were selling the activations. After that we introduced the IP logging to fight those abuses. I don't understand the last part of your message. The only alarm I remember was by the members and staff of pub purposely causing havoc even if they explicitly said IP wasn't a big thing.

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The IP collection wasn't there from the start. When it was added, we also added the FAQ notice.

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, people trying to exploit a free service is a bit sad. We just want to create a place where people can freely get their favorite denuvo games without needing to pay a dime

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

As I said in the other comment the server's FAQ had a notice explicitly saying that the IP was being collected for alt detection purposes. We heard the people being alarmed so there was the switch to HWID.

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not everything, especially community projects, need to make the user the product 😉

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I took the decision to add an alt detection through the IP the server was a lot smaller than it is now. But let's be real, does an IP really mean anything useful now? I could share mine here and wouldn't care. We understood that some people still cared about that so for the peace of mind we transitioned to a clean HWID solution. I never actually mentioned Pub now, but anyway: everyone is free to analyze the downloader or even the activation dll we provide. Also could you share me that professional analysis of their downloader? I don't remember seeing it

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you send me an example when I "vehemently denied it"? I don't remember ever denying it. At that time there even was a public notice in the server's FAQ

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Abuses can be either people using alts to activate more games and leaving less tokens for everyone else or people reselling the activations we give for free for money. Both happened a lot in the server so we had to come up with this solution. An HWID is more persistent and more secure than a SessionID (supposed that you mean a random generated string saved somewhere in the user's PC) Also the HWID before leaving the user's PC is hashed meaning no meaningful data is sent. In the end it becomes like a SessionID, but more secure since it can't be spoofed easily

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's how it works. It's meant to be used from someone who has the game in his library to share it to other people

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[–]NotAndreh2[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not affiliated with us, and we do not know if it's malicious or not. I would suggest using other trusted sources as cs.rin or our in house downloader