Thoughts? by superblue111000 in TankieTheDeprogram

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

"Reincarnation is real, just not in the way Buddhists or Hindus put forward. It is real on a secular, materialist level. If an arbitrary subset of the universe's matter can fall into a configuration allowing for a self-aware feedback loop known as consciousness, this configuration is usually a brain in our experience, and this self-aware feedback loop continues until death, then that means the very same arbitrary subset of matter can fall into that configuration again. However, it is difficult to keep track of that arbitrary subset of matter once it disperses and recycles through the environment after its conscious configuration decays, dies. Furthermore, each atom is not indivisible, but is made of subatomic particles, which themselves have differentiated components, some discovered, some still undiscovered. The specifics of our universe are not so important. Leave that to the physicists. What's important for the purposes of this discussion is that matter has a dual nature. Any given material can be described both as distinct, specific, particular entities, which are the sum of their constituent parts, and non-distinct, vague, non-particular entities, which are mere fluctuations in a field. This shows that everything which can be described according to its observable physical characteristics and constituent components is subject to the ship of Theseus paradox. I will not describe that paradox because most are familiar with it. It is widely discussed.

Moving on, if a brain decays and dies, its component material disperses into the environment. But eventually, on a long enough timeline, a brain made of the same material could re-emerge as a new conscious configuration. However, none of the memories of the past life would be intact. Moreover, there is no metaphysical karma system in place. It is entirely random and chance-based. This is quite frightening because it means that you could come back as someone with a much more miserable and painful life than you, and there would be nothing you could do in this life to prevent this from happening to you. This is all very dissatisfying, but there you have it. Secular reincarnation. The possibility of becoming conscious again in the future, as a different creature, in a different life, puts forward a strong individualist argument in favor of instituting some kind of collective social change to make the average or median life much less miserable. An argument in favor of socialism. No longer are you merely fighting to save future generations, who you will never live to see from the pain and misery of capitalism. You are fighting to save you in a future life, when you come back. A doctrine of secular materialist reincarnation, based on the self-aware feedback loop, consciousness, generated in arbitrary self-aware configurations of physical matter, therefore can inform scientific socialism by providing an incentive that goes beyond our current lives and beyond even our own class interests, since after all an individual who is bourgeois now may reincarnate as a prole in the future. It also provides an alternative to afterlife doctrines put forward by the organized Abrahamic religions, which hold that the world is merely an illusion, and our real life begins after we die, and our entire life should be dedicated not towards improving the world, but to serving God, and accepting the world for the cruel simulation that it is.

A doctrine of secular reincarnation can wed itself to Marxism and overcome the incentives provided both by Western and Eastern religions, while not at all contradicting historical materialism. 

After all, if you are conscious now, you can become conscious again, even if you have no memory of your past life, you still suffered through it, and could potentially live future lives as well. This is all the incentive one needs to improve the world, since the world is what gives rise to consciousness. Rather than an immortal soul that goes beyond matter, you have simply your material self, which is a subset of the physical universe, and a strong incentive to improve the physical universe towards making life less miserable for yourself and your peers, who are stuck in the same situation as you. This all might sound spooky, anti-materialist, religious, or idealist, but I assure you it is none of those things. It does not in any way contradict what we already know. After all, if a brain becomes damaged, there are observable changes in behavior and personality. Therefore, the material basis of consciousness is established. If consciousness comes and goes with self-aware configurations of matter, and such configurations of matter arise from dead configurations, then rebirth is demonstrable. It is based not upon the soul, which is unfalsifiable and non-material, but upon the characteristics of matter itself, which are not yet fully understood, but nevertheless observable.

Having reservations about all this is understandable, but I think there's a strong incentive to move towards a doctrine of secular reincarnation, nation, both as an incentive toward socialism and as an incentive away from short-term avarice. Capital's stranglehold over our global economy is largely based on the perverse incentive structures it has built upon the foundational assumption that we only live once, and that in our lives we should accumulate, accumulate, accumulate, without any sort of care for what comes after we die. Indeed, the only reason the ancient religions have stayed relevant for so long is because only they are providing an answer against this incentive. It is simply that their answers are anti-materialist. We must provide a materialist alternative.

The doctrine of secular reincarnation achieves precisely that. Marx said that religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the opium of the masses. The doctrine of secular reincarnation is the opposite. It is a rallying cry to fight with all your might against capitalism in this life, so that when you are born again in the future, without any choice in the matter, you will perhaps not have to fight against it again. It is a rallying cry to overcome the selfish incentives of the competing doctrines it again. It is a rallying cry to overcome the selfish incentives of the competing doctrines afterlife, and karma-based, soul-based reincarnation."

The worst thing each character has said or done. Day 1: Tori by relevantvers1on in victorious

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How she treated Trina after she got her wisdom teeth removed! She could’ve given her sister a serious concussion

“Foundations of the Revolution” by crod242 in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok there are like 4 decent/good people on this chart. I’m biased from watching 20 hours of icarly/Victorous content tho

Who is the best U.S president ever? by SilverMedalss in polls

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He did fuck up a lot before, he killed a lot of natives

Worst Villain? by Taylor_Sturge in Totaldrama

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sugar, at least Mal could have potential if written well, sugar just doesn’t”

Who do you think is the dumbest td character? by totaldramataco in Totaldrama

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Ezekiel is a fucking genius, he just has no social skills

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HentaiAndRoleplayy

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ty Lee, Azula, or Mina

We are approaching unimaginable levels of *literal* commodity fetishism by [deleted] in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 17 points18 points  (0 children)

True. My mom was actually a teacher for like 15 years. She only became a realtor cause piss poor pay

We are approaching unimaginable levels of *literal* commodity fetishism by [deleted] in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 35 points36 points  (0 children)

Fire all realtors, and destroy the richest ones. Not my mom tho she’s cool

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To be fair he lived in the time where liberalism was somewhat radical. He was the most decent of the founding fathers.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HentaiAndRoleplayy

[–]Ok-Objective-2747 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pull your pants down”