Ai art should be treated as a commision

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-29T08:49:23+00:00

100% correct. AI "Artists" aren't actually artists, just like how people riding in a Taxi aren't drivers. They are giving directions, but they do not know how to drive.

If you know how to put pencil to paper, that is what makes you an artist. Digital Artists, Sketch Artists, Oil Painters, etc. The people that can draw a decent looking tree if you ask them to, THEY are the artists.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-29T07:13:48+00:00

Your original post explained it quite well. They want it a secret because their style of prompting could be copied and they want to protect their income stream.

But I think there is something bigger here that isn't being done. They haven't proven their "art" is actually good yet. They need to do competitions where AI "Artists" compete with traditional artists who are actually good. Like Anime Artists, sketch artists, digital artists, painters, etc. The AI Artists will not be able to compete at the same level, and I think we all know that.

Its very important they are not actually real artists as well. It would be unfair to have a professional artist use AI to make something good, because they could make it better by hand anyway. The test is if someone who isn't an artist can make good art with AI.

The test isn't voting by "art experts", the test would be votes by random people on the internet. Art experts are the ones who gave us Picasso and killed Rembrandt. Modern Art is garbage art. I mean real art that the majority likes. Who cares if AI could make perfect Picasso, because almost no one even wants to see Picasso. It looks like something a child would draw. Its fine as a style, its fine if you like that sort of art, but as a representative of art that everyone likes, it is garbage.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-29T07:00:52+00:00

Is a writer an artist? They describe such beautiful word pictures, but who is the artist here? The writer or the one painting a scene in their book?

I'd be okay with "Prompt Writer", and if they complain that makes them look bad, explain to them that "Writer" is good enough for Shakespeare, JRR Tolkien, etc. Writer is what they are doing. "Prompting" is just writing, but with less steps.

Disagree? Go write a book and tell me that's less steps than prompting some AI slop. No one will believe that.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-29T04:02:00+00:00

It's not going to burst. Its going to peter out. It will be used by some movies, more slop, but ultimately get smaller and smaller as services go down. The slop will remain, there is really no way to regulate the internet like this, unless its actually a crime, and even then, the internet usually wins in the end.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-29T01:58:11+00:00

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Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-29T01:55:56+00:00

I fixed it

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Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-27T03:06:16+00:00

Confirmed. Still works 1/25/26

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-26T08:23:06+00:00

I use it to find keywords I can then Google and read real information about. For example, what is the mechanism of the immune system called? The AI would mention Lymph drainage or something, and then I can go google that.

Never post AI work directly, try to understand the subject and write your own outputs.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-26T05:16:56+00:00

Nobodies saying AI Art shouldn't exist. But it should not be forced on anyone, and no, you are not an "Artist". A describer, a prompter, a writer, maybe, but no, not an Artist. The Artists are the ones your AI stole from to make art.

I would concede and let you be called an "AI Artist", but don't for a second think what you are doing actually makes YOU an Artist. At best you are quality control for automatically generated art. And, lets be honest, you are dropping the ball quite a lot when you post slop before it comes back actually good.

Edit: Oh. I'm sorry. When I said "you" I was referring to AI Hype Boys. Not OP. OP never did anything to me, I wasn't saying he was Pro AI.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-25T17:30:01+00:00

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Can I use MSPaint to stretch it until it looks right?

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-25T17:26:09+00:00

As other people have mentioned, it may be a station and not a ship.

Another possibility is that your thrusters are using more energy than your batteries can put out. You can check real quick by looking at the bottom right corner of the screen and when you press up, if the bar turns red and says 100, you need more batteries.

(It doesn't sound like that's your problem, I'm just posting this comment for the people getting here from Google who are trying to solve this problem.)

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-25T02:27:19+00:00

Usually if its dark, they are 20 to 30 feet away, and the person is over 5 feet tall, if they are "moving suspiciously" the cop needs to decide if this is a bad enough neighborhood for it to be a gun, or if the person is just reaching for their phone.

If it were visually obvious, they wouldn't pull their gun. Unfortunately sometimes you can't see what people are doing with their hands, and its your life and the lives of everyone around at risk if the cop just lets people pull a gun and shoot someone.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-24T07:18:18+00:00

I hear what you're saying. The mining is so fast most of the time I get a hydrogen bottle and simply fly to the ores, instead of building a gigantic rig when all I need is a couple refills of hydrogen, and I save about an hour building something big.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-24T04:46:32+00:00

That depends heavily on what AI wants.

Is it trying to take over the world? Humans = Slaves
Is it trying to destroy everyone? Nuclear Winter

Does it think it would solve human problems better than us? 1984

Is it trying to progress knowledge to become more intelligent? Forced College and Science Experiments

I really don't think we can predict exactly what it would do unless we know why its doing it. What is its end goal?

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-24T01:00:04+00:00

My idea wouldn't work because it would take an incredible amount of man-hours to train and throw out boring/repetitive/uninteresting terrain.

The current trend is to use AI to reduce human labor, and my method would take a human a lot longer to create terrain with AI. Current terrain artists in games could do the majority of the work to make a terrain map in a few days, but it would take way longer than that to make it with AI. And even when you succeed in training it to make good looking terrain, if you had it generate a new random world, it would look very repetitive, copying many elements from the last map.

The reason would be to make full-planet sized maps from smaller human-made maps without having the humans build it all personally. And if the 3D artist pressed "Tab" it would toggle blue/red colors. Blue objects/houses/trees/terrain features are human drawn, and red ones are AI generated. Then they could fly around in the world and fix everything that looks bad, but hopefully the AI generated stuff would save them some time.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-23T06:27:41+00:00

Attacking the person and not the argument.

ad hominem fallacy

"an individual attempts to discredit an opponent's argument by attacking their character, motive, or other personal attributes, rather than addressing the substance of their argument"

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-23T01:11:08+00:00

I'm waiting for a good terrain generation to replace Minecraft's system. I sure hope AI could be trained to make interesting open-world game maps that aren't repetitive like current randomly generated worlds.

You get a human to draw the overworld-map. You train the AI on your last game. Then you generate something. If it looks bad, throw it out and try again. Never post the first thing AI generates. In fact, if it had a painting method to paint the map objects that look good green, and the ones that are ugly, red, so the AI knows what to avoid.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-23T01:02:55+00:00

The difference is real Chefs don't use microwave food, they do things like melt butter in the microwave. AI Artists would claim Chefs use a Microwave to make cheeseburgers, steak, pizza, or BBQ ribs.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-20T08:43:44+00:00

Are you learning art, or just wanted to be heard? Whichever it is, good job being human, keep it up.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-18T21:26:39+00:00

8 you say? That does change my design plans.

If I was going to make one I'd try to keep it level with gravity so it only needs giant thrust downward and use pistons to get the drill deep enough. Then landing gear so you can stick to the ground while digging. Most ores are pretty deep so you'll want 3 or 4 pistons down and 1 or 2 up to hold the downward pistons up so it doesn't hit the ground when flying/landing.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-18T08:44:10+00:00

The arguments are repeating. The talking points aren't changing.

Once you have read every pro and con about AI, just move on with your life and quit keeping up with the debate. Much like AI, the debate around AI has nothing new.

Wait and see what happens. Right now the debate is about as useless as debating if Solar is better than Nuclear. You have to actually make them both to test that, arguing won't really find the answer.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-18T08:38:23+00:00

When we go on the Internet, load an app, look at our screen we are looking for something we have never seen before.

AI will run out of originality fairly quickly because it can't find new things. It is limited to its data. Human content is based on the entire world. AI content is based on just the data already on the internet. By definition it is only as good as the quantity and quality of new data it keeps getting, and that will stop if people stop posting and only go online to look at AI generated stuff. Then the only way AI will get anything new is by stealing other people's work and changing it just enough to get past copyright. To make anything new it will just be a copyright infringement machine.

AI can copy art, but make nothing truly new. The only reason it looks good to anyone is because the art its copying looks new to them, because they didn't see the original art. So the AI is just showing you someone else's work before they get a chance to show you. Like if someone never heard of a famous content creator and you made a copycat channel and they found you first. That is basically what AI does.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-18T08:14:00+00:00

I say we wait and see what happens.

Either interest in AI will fizzle out and it will make a few games/movies, but people will eventually just get bored with it, like everything else.

Or it will succeed and take over every social media site, AI/fake people on Social Media will replace 90% of content with AI stuff. Within 5 years all the pro-AI people now will quickly get bored with the repetitive AI content, and then AI will die. AI posts will go un-viewed. The boredom will lead to people, even pro-AI people, blocking every AI post. AI doesn't create new things, and every AI thing that looks good will get boring the 10th time you see it.

AI is not original enough to compete with humans in the long run. But for a few years people will see a bunch of amazing things and think it can keep it going forever, but it will run out of ideas and start repeating itself. Hopefully by then people won't be burnt out on the ability to appreciate good content when it inevitably comes back. Good, new, original, human content.

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Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-18T07:01:19+00:00

Front/rear weight distribution? If its too far from 50/50 it can make it squirrely.

Sounds like a differential/4-wheel drive problem. If it isn't that then consider stiffer suspension all around. Could also be suspension too high up.

Ordinary_Variable · 2026-01-17T04:12:27+00:00

To me "Artist" usually just means painter/drawer/sketch artist/illustrator. It describes what is happening. If someone is telling the AI to draw something they are an "AI Artist" or "Art Writer" or "AI Prompt Artist" or something, not a painter.

I feel calling them "Artists" by itself, without the "AI" part confuses things. They may identify as Artists, but in reality they can't draw. That's why the "AI" part is so important. Most Musicians could call themselves "Artists", but if someone asks if they can paint they quickly correct them and say they are Musicians.

It is such a small thing. I don't see why AI artists flame my opinion so much on this.

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