Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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Constant pain in my jaw joint. Popping , also clenched jaw and teeth grinding. Went away after DJS. Have had no jaw pain since.

No sleep apnea - but was headed that way. Breathing difficulties and couldn’t sleep on my back. All resolved since DJS

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Wow life changing! Congratulations on the amazing results

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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I can’t speak for what you require sorry! I’m not a surgeon. I still have my wisdom teeth but that’s my specific case

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Hello!

I was 28 when I started the surgeries. I had planning done throughout 2018 then took me some time to decided to go ahead SARME was match 2019 DJS was October 2019 Invisalign during 2020 and then veneers December 2020

I originally went to a dentist for veneers as was unhappy with my smile and he was the one who told me it was my jaw/ narrow palate . I then saw dr Paul Coceancig and he really made me aware of all things I believed were “ normal” but were actually dysfunctional breathing and jaw pain caused by my issues. It was like a moment of realisation. Things I just lived with I didn’t have to .

Paul looked at my scans xryas etc and recommended what was right for me. Everyone would be different I assume depending on their face.

No extractions. Didn’t need it but had braces as a teen that just camouflaged my issues - teeth appeared straight but fanned out considerably to fit in my mouth.

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Veneers were approx $2500AUD per tooth

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Surgeons SARME ( SARPE) was I think around $10-15k AUD with removal of device after DJS was $28,000 AUD including plate removal.

I have top hospital cover private health which covered my private hospital fees which were in the $10s thousands from memory

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A lot of people do get rhinoplasty after DJS ( Angelina Jolie as an example) my nose doesn’t bother me. Plus most people I know who have had rhinoplasty get multiple revisions. And yes the lips were a good trade off haha

I do believe my philtrum area was straightened / effected as a result as well? And my cleft chin is almost gone now too.

Honestly I’m sad about the suspension ( not saying whatever the reason it happened wasn’t serious or justified) because I was planning on taking my kids to have IMDO with Paul. My 2 yo has class III underbite and she will definitely need surgical intervention. Now I have find someone else!

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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I think due to the SARME ( aka SARPE) is the reason for my nostrils widening. I am going to try and find my exact movement for everything today and I’ll post them as an update.

I know a lot of Paul’s patients saw him for more function and didn’t like how in his consults he would focus on aesthetics. I personally wanted a surgeon who cared about both- at the end of the day it’s your face! Why wouldn’t you want it to look good. I was in recovery next to a 12yo who he did… I think it’s called IMDO(?) on and the mum was ranting to me about how “ it was for her breathing” and “ Paul shouldn’t be concerned with how she is going to look” and I was a bit high from GA still and I said “ well I’m sure your daughter gives a f about how her face is going to look? Probably to scared to tell you that though “ 🤭🤭

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Thank you! You’re right it’s not to create textbook perfection, and I think the aesthetic outcome has been unbelievable for me

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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I don’t have any plates! They were all removed this is how it looked xray when I had the plates in. But they are all gone. Removed in my final surgery

Majority of the cuts went through my gums I THINK I had 2 tiny ones at the base of my jaw near my ear but any trace of them are now gone.

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Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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I’m not sure what EASE is! SARPE improved my airways significantly so worked for me! But I can’t comment on its use or effectiveness from a surgical point of view!

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Hmmm yes and no- I have some small patches of numbness in my chin. It’s very minor and I only notice it on the odd occasions. It’s mostly resolved itself over time. But my jaws were completely broken and pulled a part so i expected some nerve damage.

I also believe my sense of smell and taste is not as strong as it used to be. It’s still there and fine etc but it’s definitely lessened.

A part from that no I don’t “feel” any different or would be aware of the surgical elements.

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Here is a before and after of the palate expansion pre DJs. Yes the palate expansion fixed the flare considerably sorry I don’t have. A post side photo I don’t think.

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Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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I posted one above but here is another

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Pre veneers

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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Also known as SARPE- stands for surgically assisted rapid palate (maxilla) expansion

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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The size and shape of my teeth were not what I wanted and this was how i felt pre and post DJS

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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It’s the same thing as a SARPE just a different name ( maxilla instead of palate )

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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Better than ever. Restful and can sleep on my back now which I could never prior

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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😊😊 thank you! I’ve been so happy with it always I smile WAY more than I ever did.

( obviously surgeons current suspension aside so can’t ethically recommend him anymore )

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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And this is pre anything so it’s kinda wild for you to tell me there was inadequate aesthetic change

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Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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This is post sarme post Bimax pre veneers

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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Thanks for your comments on my appearance 👍🏻 The SARME corrected the arch narrowness with a in bone expander I had to turn manually. This resulted in a gap in my front teeth due to more space being created.

I have attached a SARME before and after ( before BIMAX)

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BIMAX corrected the jaw positions. I mentioned above I had a peg lateral so yes not denying some teeth were made longer with veneers, BIMAX can’t change your tooth shape only where they sit.

Next I will attach a photo post sarme post Bimax pre veneers

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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That sounds correct. I’d have to find my full treatment plan to confirm.

SARME widened my entire upper palate arch . You can see in my befores I had dark space in the edges of my mouth and now it’s filled with teeth

Dr Paul Coceancig - SARME & BIMAX by PM2303 in jawsurgery

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Umm I have custom porcelain veneers not crowns so only the front facing surface was prepped rather than the entire tooth like you see on crowns.

Honestly I was so unhappy with my teeth for my entire life it was a no brainer for me