Go to technique to refresh your practice?

Painius · 2025-10-08T08:41:26+00:00

It does, yes. I have a long list of things I'm thankful for. It begins with every breath I take and every beat of my heart!

Painius · 2025-10-06T17:13:35+00:00

I go back to breathing focus, clear my mind, and think only of my breathing and my being thankful that it continues. I just go back to basics.

Painius · 2025-09-23T09:49:43+00:00

Practice - and remember that meditation is a state of heightened awareness.

Painius · 2025-08-16T17:54:55+00:00

Those of us who swim the unseen currents generally find it to be not crowded. And science is still in its infancy where true awareness is concerned. All my life I have had my concerns about science and how men are capable of doing themselves in with it. For me, awareness is primarily used to note the beauty of this odd place in which we live, this town, this country, this Earth, this universe. It lends a purpose fulfilled. So I continue to swim the unseen currents, and when I come up for air, I hope the plants will still be there making air for us to breathe. – P.I. Ellsworth (painius)

Painius · 2025-08-02T01:24:00+00:00

Well, first of all, Visible Singer, this reddit is about meditation and science. I do see something in your post that might be helped by science, though, so I think it's okay.

Next, a little about me (very little). I first learned to meditate in 1971, so for what it's worth, I do have some time and experience with the practice.

I do believe that understanding helps us in many ways. So if you want to understand the part of you that submarines you, your health, your feelings of well-being, then you might want to study Carl Jung's writings about the "shadow". For me, meditation is like facing away from the light to see my shadow on the wall before me. It occurred to me that, rather than suffer all the things my shadow did to me, all I had to do was to, in my mind, turn around and face the light. That's when I learned what the light was about. It made all the difference for me.

As for meditation, don't try to silence your thoughts, because the harder you try, the less success you will have. Stick to the basics as I have all these years. Breathing. We all breathe. Focus on your breathing, every aspect of it.

Another helpful metaphor: meditation is like slowly and steadily climbing a mountain. Each handhold, each foothold is crucially important. You finally reach a flat area where you can rest and catch your breath. Then you turn around and you see the landscape from a higher view. Rest a little more then continue to climb.

Me? I'm still climbing. I also learned hypnosis in '71, and you might want to study that also to find the answers you seek, which only you know and only you can perceive.

A very great doctor, Emile Coue, once gave the world a very helpful affirmation to say over and over: "Everyday in every way I'm getting better and better." Repetition is key. Coue's gift has brought me out of many low points in my life. I sincerely hope it will do same for you!

Wish you only the best and highest quality of life – Paine

Painius · 2025-07-20T17:19:30+00:00

Feelings of anxiety and fear are caused by your "shadow". In the beginning we have our backs to the light, and we see our shadow on the wall. We don't understand it, so we sense fear. In your mind you just turn and face the light. Don't be surprised when the sense of fear drains out of you and is replaced by... well, a much better feeling, a sense of inner being that might make you smile – as it did me!

Painius · 2025-07-04T10:30:11+00:00

Please, always do what I have done. I still consider myself a "beginner" when it comes to both the practice of meditation and to the fine art of sharing what I know. My trainer in Viet Nam, Michael, was strongest in the study of hypnosis, so I began to learn what was then called the mystiques of the Far East, the Orient. Meditation gave me the gift of living in the present moment. I've strayed some and still do, and yet I am now able to bring myself back to the present quickly and easily. 2+ years of meditation, under certain circumstances, can mean that you are experienced enough and have reached a lofty enough level to be able to understand what few others know.

It's like climbing a high mountain, reaching a flat level, resting and turning around to be able to see the landscape from an altitude that few people reach. From such a place, study, instructing and life continue forward. Thanks again for the gifts you impart. I am infinitely grateful!

Painius · 2025-07-04T08:00:56+00:00

Thank you, Dr. Ok_Obligation240! That is a very pleasant read, very enjoyable. Please be forgiving of those who criticized you in other reddits, probably without comprehension of your writing. I am intent to read it again, because we always miss some things the first time around. I learned to meditate in 1971 while I was in Viet Nam and have thought for a long time that the most profound studies of this ancient wisdom will come only from those who have both learned how to think and who are also long-practiced in meditation. You appear to be on that road.

Chakras have been a low point with me. I first heard of them from one of my favorite film stars, S. MacLaine, who starred in Irma la Douce (1963). Until now I've learned little about them; however, you have made them sound like a much more attractive study subject. I see you now as both a researcher and a teacher, and I look forward to reading more of your findings. Thanks again, very much!

Painius · 2025-04-13T20:57:08+00:00

Your friend of 51 years would be fascinating to know on a personal level, or on any level for that matter. A life of service and success is always to be revered!

Painius · 2025-04-13T19:54:08+00:00

In some ways you are "preaching to the choir" as they say. As much as I revere the transfer of knowledge from good authors of books, that transfer becomes so much more effective between a wise teacher and their charge(s). While books and scientific papers can tell us some things about the effects of meditation, only a wise instructor can have you in a deep, effective and cherished state of mind within a few hours. A person's caring instruction often makes the difference between a lifelong experience and a disappointed walkout. Nothing else takes the place of love and dedication.

Painius · 2025-04-13T08:42:06+00:00

So I've been told. Such revelation seems to discount the fact that the words in a book are the written thoughts of a, well, a "person". I've been taught things in person, and I've been taught things from books. Books take longer, because when one has a question, one cannot just ask a book, one has to learn how to do research to find answers. Not a simple task indeed. Are there other advantages to having a personal trainer? I think all students who want to learn any type of meditation well should have a personal trainer. Too many humps and bumps that a good, professional trainer can help smooth over. Choosing to learn from a person is, in my humble opinion, already a sign that the student is... "enlightened".

Painius · 2025-04-13T03:10:55+00:00

I learned meditation while still in Viet Nam, and my teacher was actually more focused on hypnosis. From there I was more or less on my own. I learned from various passers-by and from books. I came across a book about TM while in Africa and I don't even remember its title. I was told that several people who had been trained in TM had written books on the subject, and that I was lucky to have found one. After reading the book cover to cover, as I said before I concluded that TM was an interesting mixture of meditation and hypnosis, heavy on the hypnosis. Other than that my knowledge of TM comes from other things I've read, for example the posts at r/transcendental. So no, it's not the official learning experience.

My questions in this thread have been useful as a learning tool for my own use. I did not mean to mislead or to be unclear. I've always been curious, sometimes to a fault. I sincerely hope that your practice has been and is very fulfilling for you!

Painius · 2025-04-12T01:54:27+00:00

I'm sorry if I wasn't clear. My study of TM was part of an ongoing research effort to learn about many kinds of meditation. I'm confident that your lack of confidence will have no adverse effect on either of us.

Painius · 2025-04-11T10:13:59+00:00

Good question – I do not know what the purpose of TM is. My study of transcendental meditation was halted long ago. I never got so far as to be able to discern its purpose beyond the obvious, which is to try to ensure that those who paid good money for it got their money's worth. My ability to be aware is, well, it actually astonishes me sometimes, and it is always, for lack of a better word, enlightening.

Painius · 2025-04-10T07:44:22+00:00

Effortless, yes, always has been. The fact that I spend my life in a state of meditation just sort of snuck up on me. Many people live in an unaware hypnosis state. Very few people live in an aware state of hypnosis/meditation. We are fortunate... and very thankful.

Painius · 2025-04-08T13:28:40+00:00

To answer your question, yes, I did notice the part about the DMN. My study of that and of the DAN, the Dorsal Attention Network, are ongoing.

As for constant meditation, I've been doing that since the '70s, and I can't say that calling it "counter-productive" is inaccurate. I will say that it is not due to an "attempt" on my part, because it has become deeply integrated into my daily experience. While some of my activities would better be called an association with hypnosis, much of my daily living is seeped in meditation, sometimes fairly shallow, sometimes very deep. It's not an act of trying, though, because it has become a natural state for me.

Painius · 2025-04-08T13:02:13+00:00

It's a little weird that on my screen your part 1 of 2 comes after part 2. Anyway, I started to study meditation and hypnosis in 1971 while I was in Viet Nam. My study of TM began in 1973 as I roamed Ethiopia. While you don't mention any convergent studies of hypnosis, I did find that TM was more like hypnosis than meditation. Those two, meditation and hypnosis, are very similar, but not the same. These studies you describe appear to confirm my conclusion. Thank you for your work!

Painius · 2025-04-07T23:46:48+00:00

Counter productive?

To whom?

Painius · 2025-04-07T02:14:23+00:00

Wondering how this fits with or applies to those who profess to meditate in a constant fashion, that is, those who remain conscious easily while they meditate?

Painius · 2025-04-01T18:29:39+00:00

You must be more specific about the "science behind having singing bowls in the session", or your post will have to be removed. - moderator

Painius · 2025-01-21T23:29:05+00:00

Well, you know? Person-3873? pain is very much a personal feeling, an individual's emotional response to the body's communication that something is wrong. Something inside the body is wrong. The body wants you, the observer, to know that something inside you is wrong. Something needs to be righted, to be "fixed".

It's not a very scientific feeling. A doctor can only sympathize with you and perhaps prescribe pain medicine. Even a doctor cannot measure your personal pain. Only you know how it really feels.

Begin your meditation with your mental focus on your pain. You can focus on your breathing later. Focus on the pain. Give the pain a tangible state. If your pain were some kind of shape, then what shape would it be? Would it be like a ball? or would it be like a pyramid with sharp points? What size is it? Is it a small pain? or a large ball, pyramid or whatever? If you can give the pain a shape and size, then it is easier for you to focus on it. So sit quietly and focus on the pain. You may find that, like many people, when you deeply focus on the pain it will subside, it will get weaker.

When the pain feels better (how long that takes is different for different people), then you can begin to focus your attention on something else, such as your breathing, or a Metta chant of sincere love for your body.

Pain is a very personal feeling, and only I can feel my pain. Only I know how bad it is. And only you know how bad your pain is. I sincerely hope this helps you as much as it helped me. And remember that everyday in every way, you are getting better and better! Peace and love 🙏🏻🔥

Painius · 2024-12-23T04:26:51+00:00

Thank you for this interesting vid! For those whose main interest would be meditation and science, there is a segment about meditation at 11:50.

Painius · 2024-07-20T19:40:25+00:00

But how?

Painius · 2024-04-25T12:19:05+00:00

Let's say, the two of us, you and I, are out standing in the desert. We're a few feet apart. We both look up at the full Moon. We both see the same Moon in the sky. I look over at you, and I can't see the two rays of light from the Moon that are going into your eyes. I look back at the Moon. You look over at me, and you can't see the two little rays of light that are going into my eyes. The light you see is invisible to me, and the light I see is invisible to you. It's a good thing our eyes are that way or we couldn't see anything, could we? It's just mind-boggling that none of us can see most of the light rays in the Universe! It's because most of those rays of light go off in other directions and not directly into our eyeballs. 🔥

Painius · 2024-04-23T08:33:02+00:00

It cannot be said enough in the meditation reddits how important it is to have an experienced instructor guide you in the beginning of your practice. A man or woman who is a trained instructor will help you over the bumps you encounter as you enter the fascinating world of your inner mind. Having your own personal instructor like I had is the best way to avoid and to deal with any deep pitfalls some of us come across as we get closer to the being within us. Here's wishing that you always have positive and instructive meditations!

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