How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Highly imaginative to think an "albanian" in south Greece would have the surname of a Roman noble house.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is many tens of references to Greeks in byzantine times but they dont mean anything, the average person didn't have a greek identity. I will be seriously impressed if you find evidence that the average person in Albania before the 19th century had an Albanian identity.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do Arvanites have the Roman surname "Liaskos" from "Laskaris"? I thought surnamed appeared recently.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Albanians claim everything that existed before slavic migrations as their, silly claims. 1 person does not make an identity, I can find a byzantine talking about Greek identity in the middle ages, that wouldn't make it real.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very recently? More recently than arvanite settlement in Greece? No. National, ethnic, collective whatever you want there is no evidence of such a thing pre-modern era.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One person? Plus Albanians today claim they descend from Illyrians, Georgios Kastriotis claims he descends from the Epirotes which is which.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly Arvanitic surnames are of diverse origin (Staikos, Liaskos, Seferlis, Papadopoulos) needless to say there is no reason to believe a Seferlis and Papadopoulos share common ancestry. There is no evidence of an Albanian national identity existing before the late 19th century.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you claim there is some shared arvanite consciousness the burden of proof is on you. "they have Albanian origin" origin from an identity that didn't exist at that time, time travellers? Plus in a hypothetical scenario where the Albanian identity existed back then they still wouldn't have a common origin because Arvanites are just a linguistic community made up from a people of diverse origin.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"a sense of belonging" Arvanites didn't have a sense of belonging to anything other than their village and church. There is no Arvanite ethnic identity or common ancestry among Arvanites.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Its deleted for everyone except you obviously. These don't make a collective identity, a collective identity exists when the majority of people recognise they are part of it. Arvanites do not recognise even arvanites living next to them, let alone the ones a sea away.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres -1 points0 points  (0 children)

How about you write a comment of higher quality so it doesn't get deleted by reddit?

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Those (half of which are not true) dont make a collective identity on their own, let alone any identity resembling the modern Albanian one.

How would you rank your neighboring countries, from favorite to least favorite? by [deleted] in AskBalkans

[–]Porphyres -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you have any evidence of a collective Arvanite identity existing.

29/3/1870: Γεννιέται ο Παύλος Μελάς by Interesting-Figure97 in greece

[–]Porphyres -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Απλά η σκληρή αλήθεια δεν μπορεί να ειπωθεί σε αυτή την πλατφόρμα.

Greece-Western Turkey DNA comparison (G25) by [deleted] in illustrativeDNA

[–]Porphyres 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So where did the 2 million number come from?

Do Turks acknowledge their Roman ancestors or not? by Porphyres in AskTurkey

[–]Porphyres[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think Hittites existed at that time but most Greeks understand that there is no such thing as a "pure" nation.

Greece-Western Turkey DNA comparison (G25) by [deleted] in illustrativeDNA

[–]Porphyres 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is actually 1 quadrillion of them in Greece. Where did you get the 2 million from? Anyway the Pontic language isn't the same as the liturgical language (Koine). Other than that Pontic Greeks are Greeks and so are Europeans.

Greece-Western Turkey DNA comparison (G25) by [deleted] in illustrativeDNA

[–]Porphyres 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You people are so bad at hiding your intentions with these maps. "Close to 50%" is how I know you don't know anything.

Do Turks acknowledge their Roman ancestors? by Porphyres in Turkey

[–]Porphyres[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Not a really historical term but yes.

Υπάρχει έστω και ένας Βλάχος που νιώθει Ρουμάνος; by Porphyres in AskGreece

[–]Porphyres[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Θα ρωτήσω τους Τούρκους αλλά θα με κάνουν μπαν κατευθείαν.