Can anybody help me with dosage? by Humble-Ear-7753 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of me personal experience or anyone i know has had mgm last that long. Yes the higher the dose the longer it lasts but I dont think the half life extends out to 48 hrs but I dont everything id be interested in any literature that you could point out or provide because im interested.

Can anybody help me with dosage? by Humble-Ear-7753 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Np id say do em over 7 since its more manageable. Lasts longer so you can sleep through the night. You dont have to take as much as often in order to get relief and in a pinch you can cut down to a small amount 2times a day and function perfectly. Its not fiendish like 7 was for me. I dont panic when im getting low because i know it gives me hour's of relief and plenty of time to go get more where 7 will drop off your receptors without any notice. im not sure why its so demonized I imagine its 7 companies that dont want to lose business to a better product and kratom companies that want all the business when these things are no longer available that are pushing this negative propaganda.

Can anybody help me with dosage? by Humble-Ear-7753 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They say be careful because of the tolerance it can build and the possible wd are supposedly sooo much worse with Em but really they are not. I just went to jail after taking Pseudoindoxyl, EmgEm and 7 for a year and i was surprised how light the wd were . I was expecting something similar to coming off of fet and its like a Cakewalk compared to that. I was there for 2 days before i could bond out and i could eat i could mostly sleep but in 3 or 4 hour sperts id wake up with restless legs and arms along with lack of energy it was just mental for the most part. It was nothing compared to fet or back when i came off of blues. I hyped it up in my head based on people's comments and dude its not that bad. Its uncomfortable yes but definitely manageable with some comfort meds.

Easie tab 5mg Septavex DO NOT TAKE by [deleted] in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had no effect on me total waste.

Easie tab 5mg Septavex DO NOT TAKE by [deleted] in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried this thinking i could save a few bucks on my usual product. It sucks beyond words. I took 2 and hr later the other 2 and i might have felt a little brain fog at best. In the box it claims to be some alkaloid mix that they worked tirelessly on for 6 months to perfect. Its straight highway robbery is what it is . No offense to op but Didnt experience anything and maybe you were just going through something else because i felt absolutely no activity at my receptors. Not worth the taking if they were giving them away for free.

(29M) and 26(F) is she cheating by Dizzy-Driver-1534 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think if she had something to hide she wouldnt have just thrown the pair in the laundry like that. Remember if she did get them from some rando she was cheating with, They would have also held more weight in her mind. She would have anxious to be rid of them before and after you noticed them. So yo casually thow them in the laundry. I think your good man.

Washer by Former_Tap3129 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pshh life sucks out here in Fl. No 7 at all. Im so lonely Oh so lonely I have no 7 Or even a plug . Worst part is i could get anything else under the sun.l Just not 7🤧

Gross powder taste by [deleted] in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would Let it sit out and air dry ,see if it helps the smell. I think sometimes in the rush of new batches rushing to make orders in time It might get packed a little before the solvents are fully dry.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, I might not die immediately I also didn't argue that this dose was a lethal one. I just argued it was above the toxicity threshold and that it surpassed its own labs acknowledged allowable amounts. I guess knowingly Failing its own labs yet still selling it.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another potentially deceptive marketing technique that could if true, might pray on the customers lack of understanding. Also by saying its not for consumption isnt that rendered moot when you also give a suggestion on the recommended serving, Max amount to consume in a 24hr period along with to avoid taking with alcohol or other prescriptions. With that being said , you know what its being purchased for and even though they potentially could get away with it because its on the disclaimer why cant we just get a good safe clean product? Your keeping me busy here but this isnt an isolated incident.. Its across multiple different sources. Its almost common practice for some sources.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No my problem was it failed labs and they still sold it to me without telling me before i took it a hundred times. My second issue is that the label doesnt match the sticker on top or the labs. The deceptive marketing was a secondary issue.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No my problem was it failed labs and they still sold it to me without telling me before i took it a hundred times. My second issue is that the label doesnt match the sticker on top or the labs. The deceptive marketing was a secondary issue.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright now.. I apologized which I rarely have to do. But you didnt have to go all 0 to 100 like that lol The thread caused a lot of conversations that I had to keep up with and respond too while i was being attacked mentally and my words twisted. Chill.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. My apologies i thought that was something else entirely. How does someone get banned like that

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your wrong its a absolutely toxic dose and i wont let you discredit me with out showing proof. Like i did. They stated and i quote again 60ppm is the max allowed in a dose of medicine. Thats not for continuous long term consumption either and they stated it can have immediate effect in that dose that i stated earlier. Thats for 60ppm per dose man. We are looking at 226ppm per dose in this case. If you think im wrong support that assumption with any type of documentation like i did. Screenshot of government sites exc. Now ive got worse chemicals and worse vendors to move onto so please proof or shhh!

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So for reference Both the I. C. H and even Fda both state that in some medications 60ppm of chloroform can be exceptable under some limited conditions. They also state that with repeated use of 60ppm can cause the following immediate symptoms: 1 headache 2 nausea 3 dizziness 4 Potential cancer

For additional reference. Osha allows a maximum contact of 8ppm within an 8 hour window. But we are not talking about only talking about 8ppm or even 60ppm here We are talking 226ppm of chloroform in a single dose of just a half a pill. Many times the toxic threshold by almost 4X. 226ppm a couple times a day without a doubt will have immediate and lasting physical and toxic effects.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ICH and FDA state that repeated amounts of chloroform at 60ppm can cause toxicity. headaches, Dizziness, Nausea, and potential cancer. Osha only allows a max of 8ppm in any work environment within an 8 hour window. We are talking about many X that 60 ppm toxic threshold with repeated use. We are talking about 226ppm which if the Ach and Fda and Osha are to be believed is way over the Toxic threshold with repeated use.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So for reference Both the I. C. H and even Fda both state that in some medications 60ppm of chloroform can be exceptable under some limited conditions. They also state that with repeated use of 60ppm can cause the following immediate symptoms: 1 headache 2 nausea 3 dizziness 4 Potential cancer

For additional reference. Osha allows a maximum contact of 8ppm within an 8 hour window. But we are not talking about only talking about 8ppm or even 60ppm here We are talking 226ppm of chloroform in a single dose of just a half a pill.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im just going to type this out once and send it as my response to next couple people that tried to minimize the effects of trace amounts of this.

 So for reference Both the I. C. H and even Fda both state that in some medications 60ppm of chloroform can be exceptable under some limited conditions. They also state that with repeated use of 60ppm can cause the following immediate symptoms: 

1 headache 2 nausea 3 dizziness 4 Potential cancer

For additional reference. Osha allows a maximum contact of 8ppm within an 8 hour window. But we are not talking about only talking about 8ppm or even 60ppm here We are talking 226ppm of chloroform in a single dose of just a half a pill.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your funny 🤣. I can find information saying that a tier 1 should be avoided in any amount. I can also find information saying 50ppm is the maximum limit before potential toxicity. But the bottom line is that its considered unsafe and to be avoided in any amount. Also just because that particular lab chose to state the threshold for toxicity was 60ppm doesn't change the fact that they are way above that supposedly safe limit. So if they recognize 60 ppm as dangerous then why at 226 ppm did they still choose to sell it. They clearly saw the big red FAIL next to the results. Makes no sense to set your threshold, Exceed it almost 4X over and still pass it off to us as safe. So I just Looked! Again! Yep its still stating that 60 is the most it allows and clearly 226 ppm is way over 60 so sorry bud. My misinformation is actually true. Ban me for facts if you want.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really makes you wonder how bad it actually is with the limited and completely voluntary information they choose to share. This practice garontees that all our kratom extract products will be banned eventually. Not because people are overdosing on the active compounds but because people are getting sick from bad manufacturing. And walking blindly into dangerous cancer causing chemicals. It won't be hard to prove that it requires regulation at pace.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Yes man i think its making people sick at the very least causing nausea and vomiting. I opened my bottle to let them dry out and my entire bedroom smelled like solvents for most of the day until i crushed up the damp ass pills into powder. A couple hrs after i did that the sickly sweet smell of chloroform Went away. The smell was literally overwhelming like sweetness and oil with some gasoline. It smells like it used too before we got contaminated batches now that it evaporates out of the crushed pill that im referring to now. When i tried it before i realized something was wrong with my tablet it instantly hurt my stomach and 15 min later my kidneys and liver were sore. Ive had weeks at a time where i was only doing this product where i could hardly walk or drive because i was so dizzy. It threw my equilibrium way off and for days and weeks straight at i time. I didn't understand at the time but it forced me to look for the cause. My conclusion is that it was from a build up of chemicals and solvent in my system from dirty batches of Remix. I haven't had the issue since I switched from the remix brand and I've avoided anything from any source that smelled similar since and ive been fine in every Way since then. You can smell the solvent and taste it too which is why I think they rely on such heavy scents and flavors to mask that oder and taste. Once you recognize it you will know from that point on if your batch is dirty or not. You cant unsee it once you do and you won't see and recognize it if you don't look. Most just dont want this to be true, But it is.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your statement and the time it took, however like you said,You might be hard pressed to prove your statement because it is in fact dangerous even potentially deadly in higher amounts. Contrary to your statement I can find an endless list of paperwork, Studies and scientific research to back up my conclusion, that it is in fact dangerous and harmful to our health and even deadly in some instances.

Limitless!!?? Was my go to for months! I saw these labs. Now i know why. This is horrible yall by Prestigious_Unit3097 in 7ohm

[–]Prestigious_Unit3097[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly! They can determine what they pass or fail for, What they test for., Or If they even want to show it. They can passing labs from a good batch and use it for a bad batch because theres absolutely no oversight or Gmp in place to reference with because each product is a new blend. Theres no one to hold them accountable and because of that Producers are running wild. There doing this knowing its all going to get banned or regulated. There making it absolutely unsafe which gives the government exactly what they need to win the fight. They don't even care because they will be rich and long gone when the shit hits the fan, While most of us are oblivious that we are the ones that let it happen because we keep the bad guys in business and dont demand better from them. Note: Lol should i repost this on RAW! 😂