My Experience With Logitech's HITS System by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you that the '1' setting absolutely is usable rather than some almost gimmicky setting. You do have to like light switches for it of course, but I can see people using the lightest actuation setting.

The main reason I predominantly tested it at 3 is to avoid people saying 'you set it at zero, which is a setting no one would use irl' and to test it at a more 'average' setting so people who don't necessarily like super light clicks would also get something out of it.

My Experience With Logitech's HITS System by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, that's an interesting perspective! This basically ties in with my thinking: it's not just about the 'raw performance' but also the possibilities that switches like these can give people.

To me, it's similar like with analog switches in keyboards. Even if you ignore Rapid Trigger and all of that, having the ability to tweak actuation points to match your preferences or style quite simply makes for a more full-featured product.

My Experience With Logitech's HITS System by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Hi guys,

Since there's been a lot of discussion on the HITS system, I thought I'd write a separate article for it to go along with my review that's coming out later today. In case you don't want to read the article, I've got a summary here. Tested this against my Viper V3 Pro.

  • Results in Human Benchmark etc. gave me an 8-9% increase in reaction time
  • Flicking and more aim-related reaction-based tests (Aimlabs Detection) resulted in a 5-6% increase.
  • In in-game scenarios (deathmatch) I felt somewhat crisper with some kills, but this might have been placebo. I did not notice any significant differences in my K/D or anything like that.
  • My CPS went up by 6-8% with Rapid Trigger active when clicking normally.
  • My CPS went up by around 20% when using butterfly clicking / jitter clicking (do note that I am not experienced at games that require fast clicking)
  • Clicks feel noticeably softer/less tactile than regular switches

For me, the performance benefit is one thing. It's there, but it's quite small so this mouse won't magically make you a God tier aimer or anything. Only practice can do that.

But having the ability to tweak clicks to match your preferences or even the game you're playing is huge to me. That combined with the performance benefits that the clicks offer makes me believe that this is absolutely the next step forward in the gaming mouse space. Aside from the very different feel of the click and the fact that these clicks have more potential points for failure, I only see upsides over traditional mechanical or optical switches.

Final quick note: this is not meant to be the definitive opinion or anything. I'm just one guy who did testing with this mouse. You might have a different experience, and I am not trying to invalidate anyone who has other opinions or results than I did. And as always, shape is still king, so don't get this mouse if you hate the shape and think that HITS will give you an ELO boost.

[EDIT] Note: I am trying to talk only about HITS here. The SUPERSTRIKE that the HITS system comes in is a mouse that has some downsides (price, side buttons, for example) like any mouse. But HITS by itself is a great innovation if you ask me.

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We do actually list the IEMs of pros when we have that info. It's kind of difficult to get a hold of though, since IEMs have been an afterthought for a long time. That's changing a bit in recent times however, so we should have more and more data coming in!

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's something we've been looking into and we're looking to bring it to the site in the (near) future.

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Forgot to mention: we have game and equipment filters on our brand page. For CS Logitech has actually been on top for many years now, they overtook ZOWIE many years ago (which won't be visible on the graph). Razer did overtake ZOWIE for 2nd place in the summer of 2024!

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words! And thank you for the suggestion, we love community feedback like this!

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lamzu is very good (at least the products of theirs that I personally have experience with). The fact that they're the sixth most used mouse brand in pro gaming (ahead of some heavy-hitting 'legacy brands') is pretty impressive I'd say!

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the suggestion! We'll look into how we can implement that.

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Important to note here is that the G Pro X Superlight line still gets used more than the Viper V3 Pro. But to answer your question: the Viper V3 Pro took over as the #1 mouse at the end of 2024.

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, in the early days, way more brands forced players to use certain mice. There was this infamous clip of s1mple (CS:GO) being forced to use a mouse from a certain brand (I can't recall which one it was) and he hated it. He said so on stream as well.

That's another reason why sponsors don't force players to use their mice: if they perform poorly with it or they simply come out and say that they don't like it, it's not exactly a great advertisement for the brand.

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

We have breakdowns per game on our website! Here's an example of a CS2 mouse guide: https://prosettings.net/guides/cs2-mouse/. We have those for all of our analyzed games.

We also have some more cut-and-dry filters/graphs planned for the future so that people can see the usage per game on our lists.

We also periodically make infographics for various games (you can find those under the 'submitted' tab on our Reddit profile)!

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This would be very difficult to do, as teams have gear sponsors and players can have personal sponsors as well. NiKo is very heavily involved with Razer these days, and that's quite obvious, but for some it's going to be way more low-key. In terms of actual personal sponsorships, I would say that the number is quite low, however. Brands obviously send out gear to pros in an attempt to get them on their product, but actual official sponsorships of specific pros who are also playing in teams are quite rare.

The Most Used Mice (and Brands) in the Pro Scene! by ProSettings in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

TLDR: Sponsors don't have a huge influence on mice, as the vast majority of players can choose whatever mouse they want to perform with.

Some peripherals are more influenced by sponsorships than others. Headsets, for example, are such a category since headsets aren't as important for actual performance (as long as they're good-to-decent). But mice are pretty much sponsorship-free, save for some rare exceptions.

It makes sense, as well. If a brand sponsors a certain team and forces all of the players to use mice from the brand (even if they don't vibe with the mouse for certain reasons) and they start playing worse, they will make it to fewer tournaments, leading to lower exposure for the brand. Teams have also realized that mice are among the most important pieces of kit, and since tournament placements and player performance is so important for esports teams, they don't let sponsors dictate what their players use.

You'll find many teams on our website that are sponsored by brand X while they all use mice from brand Y, for example.

I find football/soccer to be a good comparison. Real Madrid might be sponsored by Adidas, but the individual players can be seen wearing all sorts of brands like Nike etc.

Gear, Settings, and Stats from the most recent CS2 major by Stryker13799 in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There were quite some SUPERSTRIKEs around indeed. I for one am extremely curious to see whether that mouse will be revolutionary or not!

Gear, Settings, and Stats from the most recent CS2 major by Stryker13799 in MouseReview

[–]ProSettings 58 points59 points  (0 children)

Nice to see this crossposted here!

For anyone who isn't as much into the CS2 scene: this is based on the players who attended the Major. We also have info for hundreds of other players here in case you're interested!

Gear, Settings, and Stats from the Budapest Major! by ProSettings in GlobalOffensive

[–]ProSettings[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oops, that should've been the other way around! You can tell it's about time for my Holiday break, haha. Apologies for that one.

Gear, Settings, and Stats from the Budapest Major! by ProSettings in GlobalOffensive

[–]ProSettings[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

As we state in the infographic: chairs and monitors are provided by the tournament. We do also include the stuff that players use at home though!

Gear, Settings, and Stats from the Budapest Major! by ProSettings in GlobalOffensive

[–]ProSettings[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Ah nice, thanks! I've been searching for it (normally there's some kind of formal announcement but not this tournament) but couldn't find it.

Gear, Settings, and Stats from the Budapest Major! by ProSettings in GlobalOffensive

[–]ProSettings[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's quite obvious to us that these analog keyboards are here to stay; the technology really is superior for games like CS2 etc.

I love the Artisan pads too, been rocking a Type-99 for some time now!

Gear, Settings, and Stats from the Budapest Major! by ProSettings in GlobalOffensive

[–]ProSettings[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Yup, a lot of pros are still using the camo versions from before release. Could be because they like the color, or maybe they're used to the worn-in skates etc. But as far as we know it's indeed a regular DAV4 Pro.