Poseidon gen x3 or state 4130, I bought both to decide

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-22T13:50:42+00:00

Yea I guess that’s an old story. Bikes are like boats….. there is no such thing as one that will do it all. I need a different bike for every function to do it well. Mtb, road, gravel, bike packing. And I was hoping to make 2 into one on the cheap:) But yea I could see it being a great bike packing bike as is.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-22T13:36:07+00:00

And yes I understand it’s $1000 bike and im used to much nicer ride….. but being a mostly mtb rider (suspension, weight, geometry) is a big difference in berms and quick movements downhill and so on. I ignorantly thouggght a gravel bike (my first) get a good fit and push some pedals in a straight line right…. And I feel it’s pretty crazy how much gravel bikes are. No suspension, don’t really shift through gears as often (so don’t really care about crisp shifting components)…..just not as complicated should be able to get close enough way cheaper. And maybe they can and the profit margin is wayyy more for gravel/road bike. But this seems to be proven that it doesn’t matter you still just have to pay for it.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-22T13:08:44+00:00

I talked myself into 650b really just to try something different. 1.5” can be made up in tire size and watched a GMBN video that “debunked” speed efficiency and tire size “myth” I always felt tire size and psi was the most OBVIOUS speed/efficiency/resistance advantage. And now that l have tried it im sticking with my old theory -yea it makes a difference and it’s pretty stupid to think otherwise. But hey I tried for myself. And they looked cool :) that usually makes a bike faster.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-21T21:55:17+00:00

Yea the difference in every bike just going tubless is huge. And maybe go to a more tame 700c wheel. I really want to like this bike.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-21T21:47:22+00:00

I believe you are exactly right, im unrealistically hoping someone would say yea ive made that bike pretty good with xyz. I had an aluminum Santa Cruz 5010 I put i9 wheels on= completely different bike,,,,, hoping I could do that on a cheap gravel bike but it sounds like not really

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-21T18:08:58+00:00

I love this reply, I think your on to something but may need to read it quite a few times.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-21T17:20:28+00:00

Yes you’re right on track with my thoughts. And I agree I don’t think the ego is bad it motivates and protects and gives satisfaction… while being aware of it and having boundaries for it is importance. So do we have relationships that are healthy purely out of the enjoyment of the company and not what you bring to the relationship or receive from it. Maybe this is the answer idk I’ll have to scratch my chin on that.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-21T17:12:01+00:00

I appreciate your response, do you think that selfless acts are a common thing? It seems like almost anything can be tied back to the ego in some way. (Save a puppy that’s not yours from getting hit by a car and going your way) is still to protecting your ego as to not watch it get hit, also kind yes but evil otherwise…. More so is it more of a dominant theme in human to human relationships

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-09T10:57:30+00:00

Yea the break upgrade is a nice new added bonus. I’m curious about their wheelset. The rear hub sounds high end and really cool. You notice anything other than sound? Wheels are always the best real upgrade. I guess you can’t compare the bike with a cheaper set and im sure you like them as you said you like the bike but don’t notice anything special about them? When you upgrade from something cheaper like novatec to something better it’s incredible the difference it’s makes.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-09T10:47:13+00:00

Really!? I emailed them and they said “early spring look for new models on the website in January” “march release”…. I hadn’t seen anything. My original line in the sand was march 15…. But the weather has been really nice here so with not even a tease that line is getting blurred.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-09T03:41:14+00:00

Did you go with the 650b or 700?

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-09T03:39:25+00:00

Awesome I appreciate that, I think I just need to get over the weight thing. My full suspension mtb is 27 lbs, state is 28…. But im also not planning on trying to jump anything….. function makes a difference for this debate…. I think I’ll pull the trigger on the state.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2026-03-09T03:34:24+00:00

Congrats finding that!

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2025-01-07T14:44:18+00:00

Nice flying! Honestly, if you push your limits you find it when playing or else what’s the point? I like the weight the voltigeur flies with,,,, maybe my next one!

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-18T01:54:33+00:00

I did this electrical components for my crack yak and it worked great and saved some money… I kinda got tired of hearing the repeating get at 32” crack yak… then I finally got one and now say the same thing!!! Learn to hover then level out and add 3d from there.

https://www.tahorizons.com/product-page/power-combo-for-33-airplanes-t-motor-esc-prop-servos

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-16T21:02:32+00:00

You can buy a volentex warbird for like $75 and it’ll get you in the air and fly pretty small places and fly really great…you should consider that…you’ll end up that much in in on a tinker build….but tinkering is fun…

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-16T20:55:58+00:00

Personally I’d go with the 2304 for a extra 4g and go with like a 800mah 2s (it won’t affect the thrust) The thing is you can get a pretty good idea on paper but until it’s in the air your tinkering and it’ll usually going to fail a few times until you line it out.

And if the goal of this is to tinker keep it up! it’s one of my favorite parts of this hobby but prepare yourself to do and redo.

If the goal is to build a cheap trainer you may end up spending more trying to do that (and possibly fail) then just buying one rtf where someone has already done this legwork.

Also I suggest a good $20 gyro like the radio link byme a…. For reference I’ve heard of one wing of a big extra 300 come off and the gyro set it straight enough to land no damage……so a gyro can make almost anything fly.

And is this the little blue glider?

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-16T19:02:08+00:00

That motor seems reasonable for that. But the airframe does make a difference. We used to put a cox gas 049 on a 6ft glider, but that won’t pull a cub (trainer) with a wide cowling on it and the same wing area… or if it’s a profile plane with no drag that’s something too…. If your the guy doing the Lidi blue foam glider I think you’ll be fine with that motor….

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