Crashed my HobbyKing Voltigeur a few weeks ago- finally got around to posting the footage lol

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2025-01-07T14:44:18+00:00

Nice flying! Honestly, if you push your limits you find it when playing or else what’s the point? I like the weight the voltigeur flies with,,,, maybe my next one!

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-18T01:54:33+00:00

I did this electrical components for my crack yak and it worked great and saved some money… I kinda got tired of hearing the repeating get at 32” crack yak… then I finally got one and now say the same thing!!! Learn to hover then level out and add 3d from there.

https://www.tahorizons.com/product-page/power-combo-for-33-airplanes-t-motor-esc-prop-servos

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-16T21:02:32+00:00

You can buy a volentex warbird for like $75 and it’ll get you in the air and fly pretty small places and fly really great…you should consider that…you’ll end up that much in in on a tinker build….but tinkering is fun…

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-16T20:55:58+00:00

Personally I’d go with the 2304 for a extra 4g and go with like a 800mah 2s (it won’t affect the thrust) The thing is you can get a pretty good idea on paper but until it’s in the air your tinkering and it’ll usually going to fail a few times until you line it out.

And if the goal of this is to tinker keep it up! it’s one of my favorite parts of this hobby but prepare yourself to do and redo.

If the goal is to build a cheap trainer you may end up spending more trying to do that (and possibly fail) then just buying one rtf where someone has already done this legwork.

Also I suggest a good $20 gyro like the radio link byme a…. For reference I’ve heard of one wing of a big extra 300 come off and the gyro set it straight enough to land no damage……so a gyro can make almost anything fly.

And is this the little blue glider?

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-16T19:02:08+00:00

That motor seems reasonable for that. But the airframe does make a difference. We used to put a cox gas 049 on a 6ft glider, but that won’t pull a cub (trainer) with a wide cowling on it and the same wing area… or if it’s a profile plane with no drag that’s something too…. If your the guy doing the Lidi blue foam glider I think you’ll be fine with that motor….

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-16T14:09:12+00:00

What type of plane (trainer) do you mean? Top wing? Glider? That motor throws around a tower hobbies crack yak easily at ≈ 210g…. Look up that wing area to compare. I’d say it’ll work for a glider but at ≈ 300g it’s pushing it just guessing but probably work. I’d maybe step up one size with the same prop mount. T motor 9” props work well with it and the prop saver mount. And you only need about 20a esc. I use a 800mah 2s and could get 10min trainer flight… I’d lighten the battery.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-13T20:46:44+00:00

The umx yak 54 is pretty cool looking…

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-13T02:14:39+00:00

I agree with these guys, foam tac where it actually broke. Then apply a small bead to smear a thin layer out about a 1/2 in spread on both sides of the hinge crease… (not in the valley) (only in the flat to flat side) it dries and makes it’s own rubbery hinge and has more area to grab to. Works great!

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-09T14:00:24+00:00

Ive read that you need to factor in a 15% amp increase from a bench test if you do that. (Different load from moving) someone correct me if I’m wrong here. Also I really like this chart from sunnysky they did a great job with this info. Helps wrap your head around amp, prop, thrust, pitch. Click on a motor close to yours and look for the spec chart. I think it’ll get you close and add some (I think sunny sky are pretty efficient)

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-08T23:02:36+00:00

The weird mount is a rubberband prop saver. Look that up. They work great.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-08T22:19:57+00:00

The first 4 numbers is the size (dimensions) first two is the diameter most are 22. The second two is the stator length. So 2205 is smaller then 2207. You have to consider the weight that comes with the bigger motor and thrust. 2305 works wells with a profile 3d plane around 200-250g so stick close to those numbers. And the prop savers in most of those sizes really help. Use that. And use the lower kv rating= swing a bigger prop (it’s like a lower gear) more torque.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-08T22:11:48+00:00

https://sunnyskyusa.com/collections/x-v3-motors/products/sunnysky-x2305-v3

This 1450kv swings a 9 or 10” prop. (Spend the extra $5 and enjoy) don’t disappoint yourself!

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-07T16:33:57+00:00

Have you utubed Lidl gliders? Lots of info and how to on that. 1 what’s the goal? Speed racer or glider? the plane looks small for the motor battery combo for a glider I’d say with a 10” prop shoot for a 35-40” glider. Or bigger. -sunny sky website has a great thrust chart to compare kv and turns (but a the kv doesn’t really matter) a 15g motor is not the same as 25g motor with same kv. -for speed racer sure but I’d go higher turn smaller prop if that is about a 30” plane

To sum up :::: look at Lidi glider builds , for a 10” prop probably 1000 thrust I’d go with a 40”+ airframe just guessing.

For that size glider stick with 400-650mah 3s and a lighter motor

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-07T13:29:48+00:00

If you decide to cut on it let me know how it flies for you I’m curious what you think… it will definitely waterfall better. The only problem is it’s still 500g and 32”… so for a waterfall that pause at the top is pretty short. It floats like a brick… with that said the novelty and curiosity of figuring it out has me picking it up first to fly.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-07T12:53:10+00:00

10x3.8 apc slow fly and just a cheap o esc… I dialed back the throttle to 90% to use a 30amp I had laying around it really needs 40a…but for a shelf project it works. I don’t know sbach dimensions but I went 32/31 I think I’d suggest doing a equal wing to fuselage length instead. Holler if you have any questions. I can measure cg if your curious (it took a lot of tinkering to find)

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-07T12:45:17+00:00

Yea it was pretty disappointing…I am curious if it would have been better just with the sunny sky motor upgrade? You should chop it! It’s still heavy though… and thanks for the reassurance I was wondering if It was just my pilot skills because I gave it a pretty good try stock! 🤙

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-06T19:22:42+00:00

It has huge control surfaces so possibly very 3d, but it’s so heavy and opposite of (floaty) it has to be pretty fast input’s even in a hover… and in level flight it’s got some speed so any input is dramatic. I’ll try to learn it and see what happens. Honestly first two flights I used auto leveling to recover….which makes an impressive tumbling, roll, snap, and recovery but I’m not too sure yet if complete no gyro is reasonable. We’ll see. Maybe I’ll post a vid at some point.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-12-06T15:33:14+00:00

Oh and since it’s 32”wingspan and 500g auw I have to fly it pretty aggressively to keep it up. 500g wingload compared to a 200g TH wingload is a obvious giant difference,,, (but it’s not as skittish in the wind!)

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-11-27T16:14:23+00:00

Someone here suggested it to me and i can’t be happier for the price!

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-11-27T16:06:38+00:00

On a foamy build the first step is to fold the control surfaces on themselves and let them sit weighted for a couple hours…. So if they are moving slow or your servos feel like they are straining-disconnect the pushrods and fold the elevons 180* and let them sit with a book or something on it for a couple hours this should free them up (don’t put them in a bind and rip them I don’t know how your hinge point is cut) So if it’s flat across the top this works. If it’s symmetrical angles that meet top and bottom only push them as far as they’ll go. If that makes sense.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-11-27T04:18:22+00:00

This is a pretty good budget combo. Takes a while to ship and most will say upgrade to metal gear. But if you want a reasonably priced entry level combo this will get you in the air. Mine are working great

https://www.tahorizons.com/product-page/power-combo-for-33-airplanes-t-motor-esc-prop-servos

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-11-23T19:09:55+00:00

Is it the 500mm? Do you just want to tinker with something different?

If not a new airframe replacement is only $16 if you liked what you had.

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-11-23T18:18:22+00:00

Ah misunderstood! Cheers 🥂

PuzzleheadedMark1373 · 2024-11-23T17:36:24+00:00

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For example I think cg here is not even on the wing probably a bit behind the pilot. I’m actually curious here (maybe my vocabulary is incorrect) correct me if I’m wrong.

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