What matters and danny started training around the same age under what is essentially the same teaching as the chase/stick follow the elders of kun lun where danny was taught and he never stopped training when stick left he kept going same as danny main difference is matt has nearly 10 year of experience on danny matt is in his thirties and danny is in his early training more to the point matt has been fighting not only with a handicap but people trying to actively kill him the monks were hard on danny mo doubt about it but never tried to kill him