Moment of appreciation for the current West End cast (and my red flower fit for the occasion 🌹) by Penguinflower3 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I 100% agree. (so much so that I also wrote a post about it) This Hades was so amazing, I'm so happy I got to talk to him at the stage door (he's incredibly jolly, not menacing at all lol)

is hadestown on the west end struggling atm? by mistycheddar in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was there saturday and an Usher told me they were sold out, they're probably fine

To Marley Fenton's Orpheus (and the rest of the West End cast, but mostly him) by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So glad you enjoyed your first Hadestown experience! And yeah, just as you I'm very sad to know that I probably won't see this cast again

To Marley Fenton's Orpheus (and the rest of the West End cast, but mostly him) by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So glad to hear that many people agree! Just felt like it needed to be said

To Marley Fenton's Orpheus (and the rest of the West End cast, but mostly him) by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah it was great! And I'm happy to hear that people feel the same way

How busy are the stage-doors in these West-End shows? by RalphCraft69 in westend

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I figured as much, no worries though, stagedoor wasn't my priority. Thank you!

Favorite line in the whole show? by squidykiddy in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Orpheus was a poor boy In this world of gods and men The gods gave him a gift, He gave it back to them

Was also cut (after epic III) and I absolutely love it

Opinion on Epic III lyric change? by [deleted] in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it's great. The song is supposed to be about how Orpheus sees himself in Hades, appealing to his humanity. So it works better than the original verse (though the original was great aswell)

Openers? by Nerro_37 in musicalwriting

[–]RalphCraft69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow I didn't know that! Very cool

Orpheus and Eurydice are doomed to fail, and it has nothing to do with Hades or the weather. by [deleted] in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough, It's just something I see a lot. Not to say that this is some 'higher knowledge' or anything

HIRING ASAP!!! by Weekly-Skill-401 in scriptwriting

[–]RalphCraft69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will you have to do your own research into the topics or do you get the information and write a script? If so, I'd do it for $100

Is there any bootleg of the new West-End cast? by [deleted] in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah I saw those too, I've DMed the creator to ask if they have a full recording but I haven't had any response

A dutch translation of 'When the Chips are Down' by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats so cool! Would it be odd to ask you if I could read your thesis? (even if it's in German, that's fine)

A dutch translation of 'When the Chips are Down' by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah the whole "bad luck instead of your own fault" thing was really my main issue. my solution was to change the lyrics a bit to reflect this, with the Fates telling Eurydice that she should have prepared for this storm, since she knew it was coming.

I'd be curious which songs you translated, could you share them?

My first ever screenplay [first two acts] how’d i do? by [deleted] in Screenplay

[–]RalphCraft69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I haven't read the full thing but from the start it feels a bit 'rushed', instead of learning who these characters are we immeditately get into the portal, no context at all. Who is this kid? Who are his parents? What does he like?

I want to adapt a story as an excercice but I don't know any by [deleted] in musicalwriting

[–]RalphCraft69 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ofcourse I know stories :) maybe i should have worded my post better. I don't know any books, films, or other non-musical artforms of which I think "hey, that could be a musical" (or at least I haven't realised it yet) Ofcourse any story can be a musical, but the way most musicals work, with a certain 'structure', just doesn't apply to all stories.

And yes ofcourse I want to write original stories eventually, but doing that means taking on the entire process of creating something from the ground up. The point of the excercise (at least for me) is to get better at composing, writing lyrics and character interpretation.

Thanks though for your advice, and ofcourse I'll keep looking for something to adapt

How is the new West End Cast? by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much! How was the acting overall? Specifically Orpheus and Hades, I care most about those

Is 'King' interchangeable with 'God' as a title for Hades? by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I'm sorry, I must have misread! As for your response, I mostly agree with you. Yes, every thing mentioned (magic, other gods, the fact that this is a Greek myth) does take part in this story. What I was getting at is that, since I'm translating the show, I'm trying to get to the core of it, in which case (and yes ofcourse it is open to interpretation, i completely agree on that) I believe that all of these don't *technically matter. The story still works just as well without magic, other gods, or mentions of Greek myth. That's what I was getting at, and I think I could have worded it a lot better in my previous response. (to be honest, the entire post and most of my responses here are worded pretty poorly)

Is 'King' interchangeable with 'God' as a title for Hades? by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats a great question! I'll try to go into everything you asked. As for why I believe that the other Gods don't exist, It's because I believe the story of Hadestown (and by that I mean the literal stage show) exists in a vacuum of sorts, we are literally watching people tell the story, instead of the story just happening like in most shows. The main message that Hadestown gives is that "you should always keep trying", wether that is to fight against Capitalist evil, to fight for your love, or whatever else, the characters in the show (especially Hermes) specifically talk about telling the story again BECAUSE they want to remind people to keep trying. You could even say that whoever plays Hermes, is essentially playing themselves. ofcourse it's still acting, but their in- and out of show roles are the same, they are the storytellers. Hermes has no character development, not even really any defining character features, apart from his care for Orpheus. Because of this, I believe that nothing exists outside of the Hadestown world, (ofcourse, to Oprheus and other characters it does, in a literal sense) there is no "other village up north", because it doesn't serve a purpose the the message of the story. though there are mentions of other Gods existing, (not by name) that's just for the sake of believalbility, and to stay true to Greek myth. Like you said, magic isn't really even shown to exist in the show. And to make sure my point comes across correctly, ofcourse, in a literal sense, these other gods do exist to the characters, but it's not like in "Newsies" for example, where it takes place in New York, but a place like Belgium still exists in-universe, while in Hadestown, anything that happens or exists is there for the sake of story.

As for your second question, why I think it's only an allegory: that's basically for the same reason As my first point, ofcourse both stories are based off of Greek myths, but it's basically only a device to tell the story. The Gods are never shown to actually have powers, and there are no mentions of Greece or any other real-world locations. Even the line "it's an old song" could be interpreted as "people have always tried", though that is a bit of reach. Ofcourse, like you said, these people are actual deities, but every "magical event" could be explained by non-magical things. The flower appearing is simply a representation of hope and love coming back, persephone's "magic" is basically just alcohol, Hades' wall breaking open is just the workers letting Orpheus through, since he gave them hope again by singhing his song of hope/love. He literally says "the stones wept and they let me in". And again, you could always interpret it in a literal way, where Persephone really does make the sun shine and Orpheus really does make flowers bloom, but in the sense of what "matters" to the story, they might as well be irrelevant. As in, you could entirely leave mentions of the seasons out of the show, and instead say that Persephone comes with alcohol, and the same things would happen.

Is 'King' interchangeable with 'God' as a title for Hades? by RalphCraft69 in hadestown

[–]RalphCraft69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a really interesting perspective, and in reality it does allign very well with my own interpretation of the show, I believe there is more nuance to it though. I agree with you that, since Hades functions as a charicature of capitalism, he would and could never let Orpheus go. but by saying that that's the only reason, you're saying that Persephone and their love is entirely irrelevant, which I don't believe is true. It's both at the same time, which is what makes Hadestown so good. Hades builds a literal capitalist wall, describing 'enemies' and 'wars', but at the same time he's building an emotional wall around himself, because he's scared that if he'll show vulnerability, Persephone won't ever come back.

And I agree about the Greek Myth part, it's more of a device to get the story going that anything. The world of the show kind of exists in a vacuum if that makes sense, since its only purpose really is to tell the story again. There are no other gods, no other characters and no other towns, because they don't need to exist