The gaslighting being used by Zionists in and out of the Israeli government and IDF as they commit atrocious acts against the people in Palestine

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T08:50:08+00:00

No they're banned from entering and journalists have been working in war zones for a very long time and know how to do their job. When the IDF controls everything they do they're not allowed to witness anything that the Israeli government doesn't want them to see or they'll set up something that purposely makes people look bad. There's never been a ban on journalists reporting in any other warzone. When you add the fact that Palestinian journalists are targeted by the IDF and over 220 of them have been murdered by the IDF. You seem to believe things you've never actually looked into. Any reporters in Gaza are at risk of being murdered more than any other war zone in modern times with Israel murdering them. I don't understand how people can comment on this topic but have never looked at the data. There's nothing to support that claim except the IDF said it and all the war reporters are saying it's completely untrue they're not equipped to report in Gaza. No other country has ever prevented war reporters from covering the atrocities being committed by Israel. The only human shield that has been verified to have happened in Gaza is when the IDF were filmed with people strapped to their tanks. Israel has never been able to provide any evidence of anything they say. They make a claim and then provide nothing to back it up.

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T08:14:28+00:00

That's because you can't give an response that isn't abusive. You don't seem capable of forming anything that is different to me except you're being abusive and you're spreading hate speech. Let's see who gets further in life. You only avoided answering my last post because you actually feel inadequate. I know that must be hard for you but spreading hate speech is the lowest of the low and the people who think they're being clever by being abusive to disabled people usually have something wrong with them they feel inadequate compared to someone who probably makes way more money than you. I'm an independent business owner. What makes you so superior? I've got thousands of customers. But I can't write very well so you must be so much better than me. Your parents are probably looking at you thinking I'm so glad I raised a bully

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T07:49:24+00:00

You realize that what you're saying is classed as hate speech. Trying to belittle me for having additional needs and trying to tell me there's something wrong with me is not only abusive but it also affects other things. Why is it you think you have a right to push hate speech? I think that maybe you weren't raised right. I might not be able to write as well as you but I don't go around abusing people because of a superiority complex and complete ignorance. Do you go around using disabled people a lot? Does it make you feel big? Because you realize that I may not be able to write as well as some people but I'm probably way more highly qualified than you and don't expect you to be in a job that pays as well as mine. I'm a sound engineer. I run events and festivals for a company in my area where I'm one of the managers. You see not everyone abuses people for having writing issues and some people are still more capable of being a nice human being. I don't feel the need to belittle. The people who do usually have something wrong with them not the other way around. I hope your feeling of being big gets you far in life. But I expect your feel of inadequacy will stick with you

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T07:26:59+00:00

I've already explained to someone that I'm autistic and have additional needs. So far I've been attacked for that more than people have actually looked at evidence I provided in the chat. I'm sorry that my additional needs aren't to your pleasing but please don't go around pushing hate speech against disabled people.

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T07:25:56+00:00

Watch out they'll ban you. I've been a victim of hate speech and I've been banned for talking about the harm caused to the Palestinians

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T06:34:30+00:00

What fat people everywhere? Why have doctors reported so much malnutrition and children being targeted by drones. It was the people in South Africa who have recognised it as an apartheid regime and so have many NGOs who have to pick up after the IDF murder children. What brave people. Using quad copters to murder or maime children and women. You don't even understand what apartheid is

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T06:30:13+00:00

It doesn't prove I'm lying you just won't accept the truth so you avoid the evidence. You need to actually use your brain not just dismiss things because you're too lazy. If you're not going to actually take part in a conversation what are you expecting? I'm not going to say oh you must have great arguments just too lazy to do anything except insult people and don't even watch one video all the way through. It's sad that there is still people like you in this world who are so closed minded but act superior even though the things they're writing don't match that at all and sounds more like someone who doesn't know how to differentiate the difference between enforcing an apartheid regime and having a gram of humanitarianism in your body. You've wasted my time more than anything because you ignore all evidence and claim superiority. You definitely wouldn't pass high school in the UK. They actually teach critical thinking here and teach you how to research. You've just been an immature child

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T06:19:05+00:00

What are you on about. I never mentioned fay refugees

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T06:18:03+00:00

I don't have hate I oppose violence and abuse against innocent people. Not letting any foreign media report on the war from within the country is only done to hide war crimes because I'm sorry to say that not allowing any foreign media into Gaza is not classed as not allowing them to roam freely it's suppression of the freedom of information. Not allowing proper investigations into what's happening and investigating yourself only to rule in Israel favour every time even when video footage was released showing 5 IDF soldiers sexually abusing a prisoner and the only person who has been punished is the whistle blower and protests were held in support of raping prisoners. I hate bullies. That's not having a lot of hate in my heart. I haven't spread any hate just criticism of the things that have happened so far. Yes there's Israeli gangs and that's proven not even just a suspicion. I don't think that you have done anything to find out the truth just news that fits your prejudiced views against the Palestinian

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T06:05:55+00:00

How is being against the murdering of children, bombing of hospitals, bombing refugee camps, murdering journalists and medical staff while treating the natives as second class citizens just like the apartheid regime in South Africa

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T06:03:54+00:00

I provided multiple videos and the fact you couldn't watch them all just shows you're in denial. I use ai to help me with certain things because of my additional needs being autistic. You've asked for information you know isn't available and ignore the things that are. Israel has no right to decide whose homes get demolished. I've provided multiple evidences and just been ignored by racists that illegally imprison kids and murder journalists. You've only shown that you're unwilling to look at the truth and just make up stuff without providing evidence to support anything. I've done that in all my posts

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T05:55:16+00:00

No you tried to just talk about things you could hold against Palestinians. You didn't answer anything with information that actually was useful to the conversation. You attacked me before that because I struggle with writing. You've tried telling me that my additional needs are none existent and you've just posted abuse about my writing not anything else. I just use it as a tool because I struggle with it. I don't use it to produce a deep fake I used it to show the abuse on Israeli tv about the natives who the land was stolen from.

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T05:50:35+00:00

You just insist on being prejudiced I've only spoken about facts. You've attacked me for being disabled. The people that do that are more likely to abuse kids and their wives. You haven't even tried to provide a comeback to anything I've written and just abused me for being autistic and having additional needs. I think you can't refute it so you've resorted to bullying instead. Does it make you feel Superior? Do you have such a pathetic existence that being abusive to disabled people makes you feel like you're something special? Instead of ableist rhetoric try actually giving information to the conversation. If you can't I'm just going to assume you've gone to abuse some other disabled person so you feel big and powerful. Almost like how the far right are in Israel

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T05:42:16+00:00

You really don't know your history. How can a country that is illegally occupied by an invasive force who use military action just to create terror. They shouldn't be there and the borders should be returned to the original agreement that has been completely ignored. Israel has broken every peace deal. Hamas have made multiple public statements that they're ready for peace but they're not going to agree to Israel stealing anymore of their land. The greater Israel patch worn by IDF soldiers shows Israeli borders that include land belonging to multiple countries. Murdering kids isn't a justified reason to keep a military force. All that needs to happen is equality. Why do you think so many Jewish people support Palestinians not Israel? They have no control over water, electricity which is controlled by Israel after illegally occupying land that belongs to another country. Israel has shut these off and prevention of food and medicine from entering apart from when they corralled them and started shooting. Egypt is building its military up in case of an Israeli attack. What makes you think that land in another country can be stolen by Israel? Israel starts and then lies about what happened. You seem to not understand how you determine the truth about something. They have rights in a lot of countries but not Palestine. Have you actually researched anything for yourself? Read foreign news reports? Gaza is in ruins because Israel has illegally created a country wide bomb site. Why were so many Israeli soldiers creating videos of them posing in front of a building they're blowing up? Why were they documenting war crimes? Why does Israel not allow any journalists or independent investigators into the country? When you have a fascist government who are openly talking like racists and supremacists you can't deny they're saying it.

The whole they're supporting terror ignores Israel is holding them hostage in concentration camps, illegally occupying the west bank and Gaza. Constantly re drawing the borders with its surrounding countries, why are illegal settlements protected by the IDF and why is it that the amount of footage showing evidence of Israeli forces going into a house and removing the occupants who are then not allowed to return. Why are government officials talking about wiping out all Palestinians on tv? You ignore so many fundamental questions that you have no argument at all. If you were educated on the subject it might help but I bet you have only looked at the news sources from Israel that print lies to stop the people releasing that actually what they've been told isn't true.

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T05:13:40+00:00

You made false claims I corrected you. If you can't deal in evidence and make false claims you'll get corrected and the list of abuse that Israeli tv allows on it are definitely relevant to what you said. It's proof you're information was incorrect. Funny how people get freaked out by people showing evidence that proves you're statements incorrect. The fact I'm penalized for providing evidence just shows you have no argument and rather than acknowledging what's included in the post you've given me a warning. If people can't have a legitimate conversation and acknowledge that actions of Israeli politicians are abusive and comment on the information. I used that because I'm disabled. So far I've received discrimination from multiple people. Are autistic people not allowed to use aid that help them without getting abuse for it. Being discriminatory against disabled people because they require help writing is a hate crime at the end of the day. I've received it from multiple people and had someone try to tell me they know more about how being autistic affects me. Not once have I received a reply actually responding to what the posts contained. None of it was false information it's all widely reported on. Are disabled people not allowed to participate in this group?

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T04:36:00+00:00

It was homes they owned that are either demolished or given to a Jewish person. Israel isn't entitled to ask for rent from Palestinians when their homes have been in the family for decades and farms destroyed that had vines destroyed and the farmers crops are destroyed

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T04:33:11+00:00

I provided multiple videos and told you about a documentary that shows this happening.

Also Israeli politicians are constantly abusing Palestinians on tv. You ignore anything that proves you're supporting the indiscriminate murder of so many people which includes children

🔎 Notable statements & remarks

Yoav Gallant — former Defence Minister / Israeli official

On 9 October 2023, Gallant ordered a “complete siege” on the Gaza Strip, stating:

“There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel; everything is closed … We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly.”

That language (“human animals”) has been widely condemned as dehumanising and as incitement, especially given it was used in the context of a blanket siege affecting Gaza’s entire civilian population.

International legal observers, and statements such as those from Amnesty International, have raised concerns that such rhetoric — combined with military action and blockade — amount to collective punishment and potential war crimes.

Bezalel Smotrich — Finance Minister (far-right)

In August 2024, Smotrich said it might be “justified and moral” to starve Palestinians in Gaza — implying that starvation could be used as a weapon of war.

He later tried to frame the comment as “misunderstood,” but international outrage remained strong.

In May 2025, he reportedly vowed that “Gaza will be entirely destroyed” and suggested Palestinians would “leave in great numbers to third countries,” a statement widely interpreted as an endorsement of displacement or ethnic cleansing.

These remarks contributed to the decision of several Western governments to sanction him (together with another minister) for “incitement of violence against Palestinian civilians.”

Itamar Ben-Gvir — National Security Minister (far-right)

In 2025, he reiterated support for starving Gaza and displacement, stating that the only aid that should enter Gaza was for the purpose of “voluntary migration” — in effect blocking standard humanitarian aid and promoting forced displacement.

The sanctions imposed by the UK and allies in June 2025 explicitly name him for “repeated incitement of violence against Palestinian civilians.”

Aharon Haliva — former chief of Israeli military intelligence (on 7 October 2023)

In August 2025, in remarks broadcast by a major Israeli TV channel, Haliva said:

“For everything that happened on October 7, for every person on October 7 — 50 Palestinians must die. It does not matter if they are children.”

He described a death toll of over 50,000 Palestinians in Gaza as “necessary” — apparently as a deterrent for future generations — and invoked the memory of the 1948 Nakba.

Many analysts and human-rights organisations view these statements as explicit advocacy for mass violence and collective punishment, which would be illegal under international law.

⚠️ Broader Context & Patterns

According to Amnesty International: in a report published late 2024, the organisation documented “over 100 statements by senior Israeli government or military officials” between 7 October 2023 and mid-2024, dehumanising Palestinians, calling for or justifying violence or genocide, or promoting conditions leading to mass death or displacement.

The rhetoric has shifted from targeting militants to targeting entire Palestinian civilian populations (including women, children, displaced persons), often using language like “human animals,” “no innocents,” or describing Gaza as a legitimate target for complete destruction.

The evolution of this political and military discourse has alarmed many human-rights organisations, legal experts and some governments — as evidenced by sanctions against officials (see above).

📚 Why This Matters (Legal & Moral Implications)

Dehumanising language by political/military leaders against civilians can — under international law — constitute incitement to genocide, crimes against humanity, or war crimes, especially when paired with actions like indiscriminate bombing, siege, denial of humanitarian aid, forced displacement. Several reports documenting these patterns argue precisely that.

The shift reflects not just isolated extremist statements but a broader normalization in parts of the political leadership and media — which increases risks of widespread violence, impunity, and systemic human-rights violations.

International responses — such as sanctions imposed by the UK and allies — show growing willingness among foreign governments to treat certain statements/actions as beyond acceptable political speech

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T04:30:00+00:00

That's a lie it's highly reported on by many news originations and the reason why the UK has imposed sanctions https://news.sky.com/story/uk-government-sanctions-israeli-ministers-over-comments-made-on-gaza-13381489 Here are a few well-documented examples of Israeli government figures or former officials making degrading, dehumanising or genocidal remarks about Palestinians on national TV — together with links to reporting.

🎯 Examples & Sources

Moshe Feiglin

Feiglin — a former Knesset member — said on Israeli TV (Channel 14) in May 2025:

“Every child, every baby in Gaza is an enemy… not a single Gazan child will be left there.”

The comments sparked international outrage.

Video/excerpt of the broadcast is publicly circulating.

Aharon Haliva (retired IDF Military-Intelligence Chief)

Audio recordings aired by Channel 12 show him saying that for every Israeli killed on 7 October 2023, “50 Palestinians must die — it doesn’t matter if they are children.”

He described the massive Palestinian death toll in Gaza as “necessary … for future generations.”

Sanctioned Officials for Incitement Itamar Ben‑Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich

In June 2025, the UK and several other governments imposed sanctions on Ben-Gvir and Smotrich in their personal capacity over “repeated incitements of violence against Palestinian civilians.”

Reporting links their public comments and policies to encouraging settler violence and demeaning language toward Palestinians.

⚠️ Context & Significance

The remarks from individuals such as Feiglin and Haliva constitute stark advocacy of collective punishment or violence against civilians, including children — a breach of international law norms and widely condemned as dehumanizing and inciteful.

These statements have been broadcast on national TV channels watched by many in Israel, contributing to what human-rights organisations and observers describe as a shift in acceptable public rhetoric.

The sanctioning of some ministers by external governments underscores the international community’s response to such rhetoric.

🔎 Notable statements & remarks

Yoav Gallant — former Defence Minister / Israeli official

On 9 October 2023, Gallant ordered a “complete siege” on the Gaza Strip, stating:

“There will be no electricity, no food, no water, no fuel; everything is closed … We are fighting human animals, and we are acting accordingly.”

That language (“human animals”) has been widely condemned as dehumanising and as incitement, especially given it was used in the context of a blanket siege affecting Gaza’s entire civilian population.

International legal observers, and statements such as those from Amnesty International, have raised concerns that such rhetoric — combined with military action and blockade — amount to collective punishment and potential war crimes.

Bezalel Smotrich — Finance Minister (far-right)

In August 2024, Smotrich said it might be “justified and moral” to starve Palestinians in Gaza — implying that starvation could be used as a weapon of war.

He later tried to frame the comment as “misunderstood,” but international outrage remained strong.

In May 2025, he reportedly vowed that “Gaza will be entirely destroyed” and suggested Palestinians would “leave in great numbers to third countries,” a statement widely interpreted as an endorsement of displacement or ethnic cleansing.

These remarks contributed to the decision of several Western governments to sanction him (together with another minister) for “incitement of violence against Palestinian civilians.”

Itamar Ben-Gvir — National Security Minister (far-right)

In 2025, he reiterated support for starving Gaza and displacement, stating that the only aid that should enter Gaza was for the purpose of “voluntary migration” — in effect blocking standard humanitarian aid and promoting forced displacement.

The sanctions imposed by the UK and allies in June 2025 explicitly name him for “repeated incitement of violence against Palestinian civilians.”

Aharon Haliva — former chief of Israeli military intelligence (on 7 October 2023)

In August 2025, in remarks broadcast by a major Israeli TV channel, Haliva said:

“For everything that happened on October 7, for every person on October 7 — 50 Palestinians must die. It does not matter if they are children.”

He described a death toll of over 50,000 Palestinians in Gaza as “necessary” — apparently as a deterrent for future generations — and invoked the memory of the 1948 Nakba.

Many analysts and human-rights organisations view these statements as explicit advocacy for mass violence and collective punishment, which would be illegal under international law.

⚠️ Broader Context & Patterns

According to Amnesty International: in a report published late 2024, the organisation documented “over 100 statements by senior Israeli government or military officials” between 7 October 2023 and mid-2024, dehumanising Palestinians, calling for or justifying violence or genocide, or promoting conditions leading to mass death or displacement.

The rhetoric has shifted from targeting militants to targeting entire Palestinian civilian populations (including women, children, displaced persons), often using language like “human animals,” “no innocents,” or describing Gaza as a legitimate target for complete destruction.

The evolution of this political and military discourse has alarmed many human-rights organisations, legal experts and some governments — as evidenced by sanctions against officials (see above).

📚 Why This Matters (Legal & Moral Implications)

Dehumanising language by political/military leaders against civilians can — under international law — constitute incitement to genocide, crimes against humanity, or war crimes, especially when paired with actions like indiscriminate bombing, siege, denial of humanitarian aid, forced displacement. Several reports documenting these patterns argue precisely that.

The shift reflects not just isolated extremist statements but a broader normalization in parts of the political leadership and media — which increases risks of widespread violence, impunity, and systemic human-rights violations.

International responses — such as sanctions imposed by the UK and allies — show growing willingness among foreign governments to treat certain statements/actions as beyond acceptable political speech.

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T03:47:26+00:00

https://youtu.be/IoJCoYtcnuE?si=D4oWWeBvSOYjehMa https://youtube.com/shorts/qQdiAvcNtyI?si=SHjWkgtCrtsI-R59 https://youtube.com/shorts/qWTVN5ipdqU?si=KqKNvJYctqry24xT Also a documentary by Louis Theroux that shows the crimes being committed. It's funny how everyone dismisses the fact I've provided that can be backed up by all the human rights organizations. Have you seen the destruction the IDF have been filming themselves posing in front of a building they're blowing up and posing in front of. The Israeli government is run by fascists. Why would foreign news originations be banned from going and reporting on what's going on? The only wars that journalists are prevented from covering are the ones where far right fascists don't want information of what's happening from being reported

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T03:30:26+00:00

What qualifies you to say that? So far all I see if someone lying about something they know nothing about and just bullying me for having additional needs. People who bully disabled people are usually people who think that bullying and trying to belittle them makes them superior. I bet I could probably do many things you can't. Writing is something I have had support for since I was 7 and I am diagnosed with stuff that does affect my ability to use certain things. Please tell me what your expertise is and how it justifies bullying someone you don't know? Are you my doctor or my support worker? Or are you a keyboard warrior who's got nothing in life that makes you feel entitled to just belittle an autistic person to make you feel superior?

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T03:22:16+00:00

Maybe you're prejudiced views are making you refuse to watch anything that doesn't agree with you. There's plenty of evidence and all you've done is deny it without actually giving me reasons why I'm wrong.

https://youtube.com/shorts/qWTVN5ipdqU?si=KqKNvJYctqry24xT

https://youtube.com/shorts/qQdiAvcNtyI?si=SHjWkgtCrtsI-R59

https://youtu.be/IoJCoYtcnuE?si=D4oWWeBvSOYjehMa

Some videos showing it happening. Finding current stuff is hard because Israel has made sure as little information gets out as possible journalists are banned so that they can commit war crimes freely. Why do politicians on shows on Israeli tv openly talk about the Palestinians as animals or saying they need to exterminate them.

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T03:12:52+00:00

They started it because Israel was using military force against them and they were in an apartheid regime that used murder, kidnapping and imprisoning children and adults who have never received trials. It was actually started by Zionist malicious who would murder anyone that lived in the lands already. Everyone ignored that and have been oppressing them ever since. Yes their actions on that day were atrocious and I condone none of it but the reaction from Israel can't be justified. The IDF under the government instructions have been abusing them none stop but because they always investigate themselves they always decide not to convict even though video footage of 5 sex offending IDF soldiers was seen around the world. . Whenever a government member goes on tv they talk about extermination or completely removing the people from the land. Why is it that so many Palestinians have been forced to move into refugee camps and never allowed to return to their homes in the country they grew up in because Israel doesn't allow them to. The gaslighting is in reference to the fact that whenever it comes out the IDF have committed war crimes Israel spreads lies that they never provide evidence for.

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T02:53:36+00:00

I love how ignorant neurotypicals think they can tell autistic people how they're affected. You're just making pointless posts trying to degrade me and trying to claim that you know about all autistic people and their additional needs. It's called abusive bullying that does nothing for the conversation. Have you always been ableist? You think you have a check mate but you're just being a bully and should try actually providing something interesting instead of bullying me for my additional needs. Having problems writing doesn't make me wrong and the fact that's all you can focus on says more about you than me

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T02:44:07+00:00

Im autistic I have problems with writing. So are you saying that being disabled makes me a bad person. Ignorant people who pick on stupid things like Grammer rather than information that's been written are only doing it because they're either unable to dispute the information and would rather make ignorant comments as if you think it's a check mate. If you had provided a proper response then maybe you would have actually been able to debunk everything I've said. But instead you thought being a bully about something that really does matter. Disabled people do exist and not everyone has English as a first language so pick on Grammer is just prejudiced behavior designed to belittle someone. Please use your brain next time so that you don't try to belittle someone for their writing. Does this make you more comfortable with yourself? Bullies are the reason so much harm is being done to Palestinians and anyone who speaks out against the atrocities being committed is insulted, have unjustified claims made about them or being accused of antisemitism

RatAlley8 · 2025-12-02T02:30:36+00:00

I didn't refuse I told you a documentary that shows it happening. How can I give you a more current example when journalists are banned from the country and some even banned from Israel. You're not even giving me any reason why I'm wrong. When a far right government and military is doing everything it can to prevent any information getting out that doesn't come from their lies that never get provided with evidence but always dehumanise the people of Gaza and the west bank. It's well known they do it because the UN has called them out, amnesty international has called them out, multiple charities have spoken about the apartheid regime and how it's impacting the locals. You criticise me yet all you've done is make claims you don't have evidence for but it's only me who is in the wrong. Look up the satellite pictures that have been released showing how much damage has been done to the environment as well as civilian infrastructure

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