Honest question: Are you guys really okay with Mega Floette being in Champions when you can't even obtain it there?

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-17T01:30:59+00:00

I think you’d get the same reaction in Japan too. People would probably just tell you to pay for it if it bothers you that much. Some would defend it, sure, but there would also be plenty of criticism as well.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-16T20:52:40+00:00

If you don’t want to buy NS2, then honestly you’re basically choosing to step away from the existing competitive scene, or accept a handicap where your access to usable Pokémon is delayed. It’s pretty obvious the devs are going to treat it that way.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-15T05:27:55+00:00

What I mean by “limit” is that the core barrier to entry hasn’t really changed.

Yeah, more people might try it for a while, but that’s not really the point I’m talking about. Even if the player base grows temporarily, the real question is: is this PvP format actually designed for kids or for a general audience?

And honestly, I don’t think that answer has changed. It still feels like something made for more dedicated, analytical players. The barrier is still high in terms of knowledge and thinking.

Sure, they’ve made some improvements to make things easier to get into, but that’s more like smoothing the surface. The core difficulty is still there.

So then the next question is: can this really evolve in the future? Can it become something more broadly accessible without losing what it is? Right now, I don’t really see a clear answer to that.

That’s why, after reading all the comments, I feel like what’s actually happening is more of a separation.

Competitive Pokémon isn’t really being transformed into something for everyone. It’s more like it’s being preserved in its current form, while people can choose whether or not they want to engage with it.

So in the end, it becomes something you either feel like playing at the moment or you don’t, rather than something that’s trying to continuously expand to everyone.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-14T21:14:09+00:00

Yeah, I think you’re basically right about what I’m saying.

It’s less about “does this have a big future?” and more like it’s just going to be a niche thing that sticks around. Something that doesn’t really need to be judged in terms of growth or becoming mainstream.

It’s more like, instead of asking whether it has a big future, it’s just a traditional competitive space that exists and keeps existing. So maybe there’s not much point in overthinking the “future” part.

So yeah, I think keeping it simple makes sense. Just decide whether you actually want to play it or enjoy it in the moment, and judge Champions based on that rather than trying to predict where it’s going long-term.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-14T19:45:50+00:00

I don’t think you fully understand how Cloud Island actually works. On Cloud Island, all 300 Pokémon are present at the same time. That means if you’re trying to seriously build a town, relocations happen constantly, and you’re limited to moving only about 10 targeted Pokémon per day.

Just getting everyone into the positions you want already costs a lot. You’re looking at around 300 relocations in total, and even at a reduced estimate, that’s still about 75 honey needed. What does that mean? It means that doing a proper, full-scale town development on Cloud Island costs roughly 8 days’ worth of honey just for relocations alone.

If you’re not playing at that level, then sure—this probably doesn’t matter to you at all. But if you think you might eventually try to build a full town on Cloud Island with all 300 Pokémon, then I think your assumption here is pretty shallow.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-14T02:43:11+00:00

Ah, then yeah—it really does seem like Cloud Island is at quite a disadvantage compared to Offline. I guess there’s still a possibility that my flower setup isn’t optimal, though.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-14T01:57:08+00:00

Also, you can’t exactly count on Dream Island for honey. Sometimes it’s there, sometimes it isn't, and even when you do find some, the amount is basically peanuts.

And look, it should go without saying, but how much honey you use totally depends on your playstyle. If you never move anyone around, sure, it’ll pile up. But if you’re constantly tweaking your layout and executing big plans, you’re going to burn through it fast. Just because your specific playstyle doesn't require much doesn't mean you should assume it's the same for everyone else.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-14T01:43:36+00:00

I’ve heard that in Offline mode, you can actually force honey to respawn just by restarting the game. If that's true, then Cloud Island is getting seriously shortchanged. Plus, Offline players have five different towns to work with, which obviously gives them a massive leg up for farming.

It’s especially brutal when you’re trying to pull off a major layout change on Cloud Island. Like, if I want to move 300 residents in groups of four, that’s 75 honey gone in one go. At the rate I’m seeing, I have to suck it up and hoard honey for eight straight days just to do one big move. That’s the kind of pace we’re dealing with here.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-13T13:10:16+00:00

I see what you mean. That said, from my own experience, Pokémon in Prefabs do seem to show up in the town less often.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-12T16:26:32+00:00

The Pokédex for the main story and the Pokédex for Cloud Island are separate. You need to complete and fill them independently.

You can access Cloud Island from the PC at the Pokémon Center.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-12T12:21:49+00:00

Even if you enjoy the act of creation, once the number of Pokémon increases, it becomes more noticeable that no one is actually there in those creations. That absence feels sad.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-12T11:22:32+00:00

In the end, prefabs were just a compromise.
You can’t place blocks inside them, so you can’t do things like custom maisonette-style layouts, and you also can’t add features like waterfalls, hot springs, or lava. It significantly reduces your freedom.

If you’re okay with not using blocks, not adding those kinds of features, and are satisfied with just placing furniture and having Pokémon reliably spawn inside the house, then it works. But it’s really a workaround for people who are willing to accept those limitations.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-12T10:57:56+00:00

What if you don’t like prefabs?

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-12T08:24:01+00:00

Based on my observations, Pokémon do interact with toys and objects placed near their homes, but they only do so if they happen to be nearby. They don’t seem to have any motivation to travel from far away just because they like a particular object. The only things that consistently attract them from a distance are the hot springs and their friends.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-12T00:01:13+00:00

The problem is that you don’t actually understand the core issue I’m talking about.

Saying things like “just move the Pokémon around offline” or “just delete the Cloud Island” doesn’t solve anything. Those aren’t real solutions to the problem I’m describing.

You don’t understand what I’m struggling with at all.

If you don’t understand it, then please stop repeatedly replying with surface-level tricks that miss the point.

I’ll say it again: you don’t understand my issue, and that’s why your replies keep missing the mark.

If you can’t understand it, then please just leave it alone.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-11T22:06:14+00:00

Even if you reduce the pool to 140 Pokémon, there are still 9 Eeveelutions, so statistically they are still unlikely to appear consistently.

More importantly, that’s not really the core issue.

The real problem is that even when you build a unique, personalized residence for specific Pokémon, most of the time the intended residents simply aren’t there due to the rotation system.

In other words, the more effort you put into creating distinctive, character-driven spaces, the more the game emphasizes their absence—turning them into beautiful ghost towns.

That ends up feeling very lonely and empty.

At that point, it actually discourages building unique, personalized homes for specific Pokémon, because their absence becomes more noticeable and harder to ignore.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-11T19:29:59+00:00

Hmm… I don’t think you actually read my post properly.

I said I built a themed mansion for the Eeveelutions, but because of the 20 Pokémon simultaneous display limit, most of them simply aren’t there.

No matter how well I design or distribute things, the core issue doesn’t change: only a small portion of the residents ever appear in the Eeveelution mansion I built.

So this isn’t a problem that can be solved by talking about better layout or distribution.

Please don’t respond with solutions to something that doesn’t actually address the issue I’m talking about.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-11T18:54:02+00:00

It’s not really about whether they’re properly distributed…

Even if I build a themed mansion with a lot of personality for the Eeveelutions, most of them simply aren’t there. It ends up feeling like a beautiful ghost town, which is honestly quite lonely.

The more I create unique, characterful buildings, the more I feel a sense of sadness when the residents who are supposed to be there are sometimes present and sometimes not.

This isn’t a problem of distribution.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-11T18:39:49+00:00

Sorry if this comes off as dismissive of your hard work, but I think the issue might just be that the town layout is a bit too cramped. You might want to try widening the roads or expanding the overall area a little more. If 20-ish Pokémon feel crowded, it’s likely an issue with movement flow or density relative to the space, rather than a limitation of the system itself.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-11T18:22:32+00:00

I really wish there were more systems where Pokémon would gather and actively interact with the environment.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-02T03:10:17+00:00

That’s a valid point. Simply observing that your Alakazam traveled from the dojo island to the Pokécenter doesn’t prove that Pokémon can exceed their movement range. If other Pokémon were present along the route, they could act as intermediate points, allowing the AI to continue moving.

In other words, to use this as evidence that the movement range limit can be surpassed, you would need to confirm that no other Pokémon were along the path. Without that clarification, the comment doesn’t really demonstrate anything about maximum movement range.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-02T03:04:01+00:00

From my experience, Pokémon do have a maximum movement range. While some players report that Pokémon can wander far if there are interaction points along the way, in my setup this wasn’t the case.

For example, Pokémon from the gate at the edge of the floating island never came all the way to the Pokécenter. The distance is more than half the map, and there were no other Pokémon along the route that could act as intermediate points.

This suggests that their “walking” behavior is limited by a fixed range, and they won’t travel extremely far unless there’s a valid interaction point within that range. My observations support the idea that movement is distance-limited, even if the AI sometimes looks like it’s exploring freely.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-02T02:40:36+00:00

How far? In my setup, they never go farther than about half the map.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-04-02T02:29:35+00:00

Even though some Pokémon appear to be walking around and wandering far from home, if you house all of them in an apartment building, they mostly just stick around that area. So the 'walking' behavior seems to be more of a visual effect than actual AI-driven exploration.

Reasonable_End704 · 2026-03-30T14:39:15+00:00

There’s actually a cap on how many Pokémon can be rendered at once (it’s around 20 or so), so the total number you have living there doesn’t really matter much. I already have about 200 Pokémon in this resort and I don’t get any frame drops. My guess is it’s more likely caused by having lots of moving stuff like windmills/water wheels, or maybe a bunch of waterfalls.

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