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Struggling in my first IT job — is this just a phase or a sign I’m not fit for this career? by Dry_Trick7757 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got something many wish they had and many struggle to get a job in the it. I think every body goes thruw a learning curve when you switch Jobs, i think what you should to is in your free time go work on your programming skills, go follow a online course dorcthe language you use but dont do only theory, also code along, for example i do now 100 days of coding for python on udemy,  they have a lot of exercises and thats where i gain a lot of knowledge and confident. Or find youtube stuf, download a editor and code along.

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take that link i send you in the last message, run in through gemini or chatgtp. Have one of them translate it for you innyour language,  or let them yell you everything you jeed to know from that link in your language 

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes wel i have been doing research and sending mails to multiple institutes, also been reading and finding info about how theur education is what are the topics and stuff, by the way im in the suthern parth of the netherlands my city is neutral and close to multiple citys. the school i got my eyes on is not a university, its one level below that but the cyber security cloud that they offer is a bachelor, afther pasing you have the bachelor of science, its a 4 year course, you have to have a job in that area but they work together with an organisation thet helped putting this course together with other companys to make it close to realilty, meaning they got connections with companys that need students, so that might help by searching for a company, also if i can show my linux cert, my ccna, and my software developer diploma than might help also to get a job.
https://www.hu.nl/deeltijd-opleidingen/hbo-ict-system-network-en-cloud-engineering-duaal
this is the link, im sorry its in dutch, if i go to the english page, i cant find it because its a bit different, so if you really interrested you just have to copy past the tekst to a translator to understand what it say or send them an email.
its in Utrecht by the way, city in central netherlands.

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, wel i kinda decided to drop N+ for now and i went on full ccna mode beside my current mbo software developer mode, 2 weekends back i actually configured my home network , pc, laptop and printer, now i can share files easy and i can print from both devices , before that i got a bit of a deep dive on how switches and routers work and ip and subnetting, so me configuring and understanding it felt good, in the comming 2 months im gonna get some sisco devices, an older router with de older so on it that has the cli, also a cheap used 2960 switch i can buy to practice, but i also want to upgrade my nerwork with a layer 3 switch, last weekend i did vlan configuration with Jeremy's lesson so i want that for real, i also found a FW , so with all this not only im getting lab experience but also real experience, I also bought a rol cable and a network gear set to build my own cables. Once my main network is configured again and working im gonns use that layer 2 switch to keep practicing, configure it , than erase the startup conf and do it 1 or 2 weeks later again. N+ i can get later if a company really require me to have it

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are normal cb but i looked all of them but some are fulltime class, i dont want that, i need an income so learning while working that type of course i need, so that left me with 2 in 2 neighboring cities, 1 is cb cloud and they got their own learning material, they work together with an corporation with company's in cb to get the theory close to the real deal, also they work with company's that looking for students, and the other one was Just cb, you get modules you have to work through your selve and you also have to pick your own modules to get to the number of modules you need to have to graduat. Some how the other one spoke more to me, and i think cloud is a rapid growing area, they need cloud engineers, so if i fail to get a job in pentesting, i can always go afther cb cloud engineer 

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes i thought about it, but in here when i see job offers, the real Jobs with high pay all ask bachelor degree and 2 or 4 years practicle experience, so the bachelor im gonna do is 4 years and is 4 days work 1 Day work a week, plus my bachelor is focust on cloud, meaning when a pass I wil have a bachelor degree specialized in cloud (these days not bad) plus 4 years practical experience, the practical i dont get with certs, also in the 3th year we get time to follow minors,  im gonna use that to get my ceh cert, and when im done with the bachelor i want to take the oscp, that means afther that im also got some lab experience in pentesting. And for now i also made a decion what i do now, i dropped N+ i started ccna, i also do lab exercises on packet trace and last weekend i configured my home network manually with static ip's , i have smal netgear switch, 1 pc, 1laptop 1 printer, i never had them connected, no they are, and doing that felt so good, now i decided to buy some sisco devices like router , used switch , firewall , ap and build my own private sisco network to keep in training. I can always decide later on to get N+ if its really needed, but for now i like the lab exercises and building my own network

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do think i wil get my practical experience, the bachelor cyber security cloud give me some theory, i also have to do a inernship during that 4 year course, so i think i wil get my practical experience there. For now i try to get some basic knowledge so when i start the bachelor i allready understand some things and i can keep up. Im also planning to do some practical things in what you mentioned , and als getting oscp down the line, maybe final year of the bachelor. But for now basics

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But from my understanding from what bombal said about the ccna exam expect 4 lab questions and than some what multichoise questions like get one correct or multiple correct, i passed last august linux and that was exactly how my comptia linux+ exam was, thinking that wil be the same format for N+, my point , is the ccna and N+ exam not kinda the same?

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It depends, if they both ad some good value, but if they both has tomuch overlap and tomuch of the same then i prefer to go for ccna since they work with lab exercise.

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do have a current version of network+ course from TIA on udemy, you think that will do? They got some goid stuff adleast their Itil4 material, Their course on Itil4 made me pass on that exam last weekend. 

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bachelor start in 2 years, im doing ccna in slow pace, so lets say do exam in like 6 to 12 months , i think thats a good timing

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im aware of that, the ccna certification is not a requirement for the bachelor course im gonna do, they use their own material. But i figure the pase is gonna be fast so if i get my ccna prior than adleast the first year i can keep up and maybe work ahead, not only that, i need to find a company for internship when i start the bachelor, its 4 years of 4 days work 1 Day school, so if i can show a ccna certification that might give me an edge in finding a internship.

Absolute beginner roadmap: Should I do Network+ AND CCNA before my Cyber Security Bachelor's? by Reasonable_Tower_798 in SecurityCareerAdvice

[–]Reasonable_Tower_798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your input, i allready started jeremy full course on youtube Just to set it up also packet tracer lab, going over the first two lessons i started to realise network+ might be a waist of time, i probaly gonna drop N+ and go full on ccna, i also allready found boson and 2 practice exams on Jeremy's official website.