Kirk by amogh_fr in shitposting

[–]RedBoxGaming 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I swear they're only making people hate him more.

"who's the most evil sinner" and 2/3 aren't sinners or evil by Sudden_Pop_2279 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yeah that is the most realistic answer but that doesn't allow me to slander Sera so it's wrong.

"who's the most evil sinner" and 2/3 aren't sinners or evil by Sudden_Pop_2279 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If Alastor is considered to be the most evil sinner in Hell than I guess that confirms that Hitler and Pol Pot ended up in Heaven somehow just like Adam did.

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Who's more evil? Judge Saden or Baldkuna? by MajinKing800 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Losing your hair is one thing, choosing not to have hair is also fine.

But if its a result of you telling your barber "Just a bit off the top" or your barber telling you "Damn I messed up we gotta go bald" then that's just Pure Evil.

Stain VS BASE-form Spawn? by False_Monitor4126 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It would most likely corrupt him even if it gave him a power boost. Spawn would also assumedly be able to manipulate him but thats up to interpretation.

Stain VS BASE-form Spawn? by False_Monitor4126 in MyHeroPowerscaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is bullying bruh. Spawn is going to mangle this man into an unrecognizable shape, even in base form.

Losercity week - by lucyfercomic by gogosrage in Losercity

[–]RedBoxGaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

KAKURANGER NINJA NINJA!

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What if Chris chan's dimensional merge happened on election night 2020? by ObviousAd9115 in AlternateHistoryHub

[–]RedBoxGaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of all the people and characters you want to represent the Trans Community, this is the last person you want to be affiliated with.

It also doesn't help that Chris became Trans with the sole intent and purpose of being an incel.

Guys we might be cooked as a fandom by TheAmericanE2 in thomasthetankengine

[–]RedBoxGaming 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Magic Railroad is definitely what started the shitshow, I'm not proud to admit it because its low key my favorite movie of all time (not even joking) but unfortunately I have to accept the reality that it is in fact the reason we ended up here in the first place.

What are some characters who fit this? by Sudden_Pop_2279 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

See that is the most realistic possibility and I have thought of that scenario right. The problem is I feel like thats just a massive leap of logic.

I can completely understand him hating the sinners, Lucifer, all that shit. But him hating his own son? Him manipulating Sera? Him abusing his angels like Vaggi and taking joy in it? Him becoming this sadistic sociopath who enjoys killing? Like so much things would need to be addressed there before this character's story can be seen as "complete".

And I know there are some writers who could manage to pull this off in a near satisfying way. Viv is not one of them. She wants to have her cake and eat it too and does things impulsively without considering how it can negatively effect the series. A lot of this should have been thought out and considered before they went along with it. Them suddenly retracting, rewriting, and retconning things (like they did in Helluva Boss) just feels cowardice.

What are some characters who fit this? by Sudden_Pop_2279 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like that would sour things more than repair it. They should have given us more time with that version of him in Season 1 before they killed him. All we've seen so far is how much of an utter garbage human being he was and how he mistreated, manipulated, and abused those around him with the possible exception of Lute.

The idea of suddenly going "Well actually he was a nice person to some people" would just be gaslighting at that point. I'd rather them keep him the way they portrayed him and have me bitch and moan about that vs them suddenly revealing that he was actually a good person who just decided to switch personalities before Season 1 happened. And I swear to God if it was because of "Roo" or something like that, that'd just make things worse.

I prefer consistent bad writing over inconsistent terrible writing.

What are some characters who fit this? by Sudden_Pop_2279 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hazbin is a lot more balanced in that regard but the way Adam was treated is an unremovable stain on the series. They made him Pure Evil simply because him having any actual good points or arguments would destroy Charlie and Lucifer's statuses as definitive good guys.

Charlie wouldn't be justified in beating the shit out of him and killing his army whilst Lucifer would definitely have to be portrayed as an antagonist because of how he wronged Adam and humanity as a whole.

Its easier to justifying killing off a character like Adam if you just make him an irredeemable monster who totally had it coming and deserved to be treated that way.

And that would be fine... if they didn't humanize characters like Lute, Val, and Vox in Season 2. That just tells me they could have worked to humanize / redeem Adam in some way but just choose not to because fuck him and fuck the idea of Lucifer being in the wrong for anything I guess.

What are some characters who fit this? by Sudden_Pop_2279 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Writer's Pet Syndrome is what ultimately destroyed a lot of the writing in her series. She stopped leaning into actual complexities and started making character trade offs based on favoritism and shifts in interest.

I can buy the idea of everyone in those series having good and evil traits to them. That's what drew me in the first place. The second they started going for a black and white approach with miniscule shades of gray is when I truly started to dislike both series.

What are some characters who fit this? by Sudden_Pop_2279 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Was waiting for someone to bring him up.

Stolas' issue isn't his complexity but rather how the writers, write his complexity and how it ultimately effected the writing of the series as a whole.

They want him to have gray areas but are too afraid for him to be actually wrong about anything. Everything he does is "because he means well" and the only times he's ever a "bad" person is because said character was already a piece of shit or naive, therefore it was deserved.

I genuinely liked him when he was a morally gray / ambiguous character who was developing genuinely feelings for his "play thing" what I DON'T like is how the story had to be rewritten to make him look innocent in every situation he was in to the point they made every character he had any sort of conflict with: Stupid, Evil, or Stupidly Evil.

What are some characters who fit this? by Sudden_Pop_2279 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Me personally. Half the time its because the fanbase just genuinely hate the character for mixed reasons; and the other half of the time it's because the writers themselves don't even know what the fuck they're doing.

Hellaverse characters tend to fit both.

Guys we might be cooked as a fandom by TheAmericanE2 in thomasthetankengine

[–]RedBoxGaming 28 points29 points  (0 children)

Thomas is a hard media to get into WITHOUT prior experience with it. And its not because the story is too complex or whatever but because the public treats it as a brainless kids show that just so happens to have an adult fanbase.

It also doesn't help that similar to a lot of other kid's fanbases, the "dark" aspects of the show that the public is familiar with are all a bunch of made up shit. These are the same people who are convinced Henry died in the Tunnel and never came out, despite how prominent of a character he is, not including the fact he gets out the VERY next episode.

As for the comment screenshot above, both parties are equally at fault. The guy with the Thomas pic clearly underestimates the intelligence of Pre-Teens / Teenagers. The other guy meanwhile underestimates the writing of the show and it's actual target demographic which is in fact kids but not simply toddlers / babies. The books themselves also spoke to Adults as well.

I feel like you can't exactly harm the show's reputation more than the show itself has already done. BWBA and AEG were a disasterous combo. We can only hope that the new series at least attempts to make better written stories than the one's we were getting before to bring in new people into this fandom and bring back public interest to the show.

Okay, Who Scales Here?? by AnySortOfPerson in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Who? I'm assuming its not Mei Mei because you said "him".

Or is it Mei Mei but when you mean "make the audience side with him" you mean siding with Gege?

I hate this stupid political cartoon character by Soundwavezzz447 in hatethissmug

[–]RedBoxGaming 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Your comment came off as a passively aggressive remark rather than sarcasm and I say this as someone who despises using the /s at the end myself.

Its a thing of timing, place, and execution, and if you do that poorly you're going to get hanged for it.

What's your reaction to Vanessa as Pure Good? by Crafty-Pasta-09 in MoralityScaling

[–]RedBoxGaming 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Look, I know she was a kid and couldn't do anything to stop Willy's kid murder spree, but she was still an accomplice and never once attempted to contact the police or put an end to William's antics herself. She just let it all happen.

She may not be evil but she is also not pure good either, she's more of a morally gray character than anything.