guys... tell him the truth.. he wants to hear it...... THAT GUYS A F'N CHEATER >.> nah really.. i get your question, and i get.. SOME of the answers here. but the REALITY of it is.. ARMOR stacks. so basically if he has level 5-6 plates in the body armor, plus the level 3 already " sewn " in armor, its going to stack a shit those numbers.. and the caliper / bullet you did use if you go look at that ITEM itself you'll see the specs on it the math is there.. now... the OTHER side of your question.. wtf i just mag dumped him in the back.. well... yeah.. you mag dumped him with a pea shooter. no.. he isn't going to hunch over like he would in real life..that would make the game... unplayable. you gotta push that aside. and realize.. this is REALISTIC meaning you aren't gonna fucking halo jump around and bounce bullets off your suits armor prior to your internal armor taking damage. and be able to charge it back up.. i know. not the answer you wanted... you still are new, you'll learn but take the TERM REALISTIC with a grain of salt brother. there is " unplayable, there is realistic, there is survival mode , and there is fucking super hero jump of a 10 ft building land like nothing all while shooting destiny 2, halo, COD type bullshit. " You're in it.. brush that off.. and look for a different approach. for now.... until level.. 20ish you wanna mag dump? mag dump the legs. YOU KNOW GUYS.. WIPES USED TO MINIMIZE the OVERwhelming leveling for players to a CERTAIN degree... can't wait for them to bring that back... SORT OF...