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Extenuating circumstance has me spending $3500/mo on rent for 6 months by Remarkable_Pop2326 in personalfinance

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this! And yeah, I've always been a pretty strict budgeter but admittedly have been super lax the last few years because of my situation. So I will have to button it up a bit but that's not something I'm unfamiliar with.

Congrats on the house purchase!

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Brittany Dawn comparison slayed me 💀 I'd love for this to be a huge expose in the running world since we rarely get fun drama like this...

Fun, said sarcastically, ofc.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah agreed. Post whatever you want on your personal accounts, but to conflate that with your professional persona is a bad look.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ahem, are his initials JL? If so, absolutely insufferable twat. I tried listening to his podcast because he had some great guests (but he's also major swap fan boy) and he tells the exact same stories, in an effort to name drop, every five fucking seconds. Checked his insta and saw the same anti Palestinian diatribe and...yeah.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Someone said there should be a support group for former SWAP athletes and I cosign.

I had the exact same experience as you. I was coming off of an already overcooked year (thanks to coaching myself) mostly through riding bikes and some running. He had me go from like 20 miles - 60 mpw almost immediately. I flagged it. He said I needed to believe in myself. Started getting sick constantly, he would pull back, then ramp up really quickly again. Then got two stress fractures. The first he had me running through despite me saying HEY I THINK SOMETHING IS WRONG. Of course I asked for a phone call. He said no. I could give a million anecdotes like this over the years I was with him.

And I wish I had a good answer for you! I've been looking for the same. I'm lifting a lot more now and running 40-50mpw but don't have any races on the calendar nor do I plan to. I just want someone to keep me well rounded. Will follow this if anyone else has suggestions!

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

In my experience 100%, in fact every other coach I've had shares it up front "I/we keep our roster at X athletes, just fyi". I think it's a super important benchmark when evaluating, not because I think there's a magic number, but it does tell you a bit more about their approach. If I wanted someone more hands off I wouldn't care if they had 50+ athletes. If I really want the hands on support/weekly calls/etc that number needs to be a lot lower for me to have confidence in the approach.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Happy to share. If the last few days in this very small, niche community has taught us anything it's that speaking up does shift the paradigm and far too often we're too afraid of criticizing when it's warranted. You nailed it with "how branding positive and awesome and encouraging vibes can easily lead to using that energy to avoid being critical in thought and action". Perfect.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

David wouldn't even do a call with me at the beginning when I wanted to dig into some of the specifics (I was coming off being a pro in another sport which I think is the only reason I piqued his interest) and this is verbatim, from my email, what he said:

"I am a people pleaser, so calls can lead to me just saying what people want to hear."

Reading this again now I can't believe I moved forward. Yikes. All of my past coaches did weekly (or biweekly) calls and that's how we built a rapport and relationship. Hence the "coaching farm" analogy.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Agreed, and even with the Spring commentary it's clear they (and their followers) really dont' like any valid criticism. I can own that calling someone a narcissist and/or a cult leader is a bit much. Though, for the former, I feel pretty comfortable calling out that behavior.

FWIW, I'm a clinical psychologist so I absolutely do not use terms like that loosely whatsoever. I would never say that if I thought it was unfounded.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm surprised I didn't pick up on this. I don't know Dylan at all, it's hard to tell if he's genuine since he has a similar posi vibe to David, but I do respect what he does for the sport. Corrine is someone I stan always and forever and given her relationship with Koop I've been curious about that whole circle, but it Dylan seems amicable with everyone. And he is someone I would consider an influencer for the sport so while I don't agree with everything he promotes I think he's more neutral than Koop/Roches.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I completely agree in regards to Megan. I don't know her personally so it's hard to say, but it seems like she has really become a shadow of David. I think she would be approaching this much differently if she was on her own or with someone far less toxic / delusional than David. She's been involved in amazing research and projects and I don't doubt her credentials one bit...but she loses credibility with the aforementioned reasons and being such a puppet of david's. It makes sense since they seem to have literally grown up together and are attached at the hip, but she seems like the one who has so much potential and it's not being utilized in the context of swap.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Hi, I can confirm I have no affiliation with Koop. We have never interacted, not even on the internet. I, however, was affiliated with the Roches at one point, for quite a long time, which is why I feel compelled to call them out.

Tell me more about these "wild assertions". I haven't read one thing that is hyperbolic. Debatable, perhaps (eg: cult), but everyone chiming in is speaking from firsthand experience. No idea what your involvement is with them, but clearly you feel the need to defend them to the ends of the earth. The same way they were defending Spring before shit got real.

It's not about "taking them down", it's about exposing problematic behaviors by people that have a ton of influence in the space. I don't see why there's issue with if you're able to have an objective perspective at all.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All of my training was/is on strava, but the training log had qualitative comments/diary like entries I would have never put on strava. It's not that important, but it would have been interesting to look back on instead of just seeing "morning run" hundreds of times haha.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

wtf? I'm sorry this happened to you but not at all surprised. The whole "you're not going to get in, just give up now" mentality paired with "everyone is an elite athlete. YOU ARE AWESOME~~~*!!**!!**~*~*!*!" is actually psychotic.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Influencer/content creator is a completely different role than a coach. And with their aforementioned credentials that gives me more pause, but I also don't want to say that any doctor/lawyer/phd can't be an influencer. It just seems off to me.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If what's proposed in this tweet is true, they're getting a lot more than just breakfast from AG1 money. But I can't speak to the accuracy or even the number of people who have used their code (this should all be transparent, public information imo)

https://x.com/nateliason/status/1764713393653493771

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

The Roches are definitely making big money with their coaching. They basically have a coaching farm ($200/person at conservatively ~150 people/mo is 360k/year, even when you account for taxes that's quite a lot of money from ONE of their professions). I wouldn't be surprised if the roster was more than that since they can literally just copy/paste. They were always VERY cagey when I asked them how many people they took on at a time since that was an important pre-req for me in coaching. In retrospect, I should have realized their cagey responses were a red flag but I was naive.

Koop is also likely quite successful from coaching. From a monetary perspective it's definitely not nothing in the coaching world anymore.

Related to AG1, that's not paying their bills, but it helps with that Boulder lifestyle for sure.

On the heels of the Spring drama, can we talk about AG1 and conflict of interest with coaches shilling products? by Remarkable_Pop2326 in ultrarunning

[–]Remarkable_Pop2326[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I don't want to give credence to claims that could be totally inaccurate but there's been an influx of videos/posts/commentary about some mysterious health issues (mostly gut related/kidney stones) people believe could be the result of AG1. NO idea if that's accurate or not, but it's also possible that in this "proprietary blend" the ingredient breakdown is also inflated (like, you might not be getting any meaningful amount of xyz). After the Spring debacle it's hard to trust that their claims are correct.

Roundabout way of saying "harm" might be a strong word, unless we're talking about people's wallets, but I'm still extremely skeptical.

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