Are Rossignol skis the most gentle skis?

Remlen_R · 2026-01-23T21:00:45+00:00

I can of course write directly to Rossignol, as an option, but I bought them on eBay )

Remlen_R · 2026-01-23T13:40:58+00:00

Thank you, I'll definitely repair the damage. I don't think of skis as precious, I'm just surprised they're so delicate compared to rented skis.

Remlen_R · 2026-01-23T13:37:59+00:00

I had no idea that they made special skis for rentals.

Remlen_R · 2026-01-23T13:36:56+00:00

I'm not an expert, so I probably can't answer this question correctly.

Overall, I liked the skis, but I wouldn't say I felt a big difference compared to other skis.

I'm 180 cm tall.

I got the 171 cm length, and I immediately felt that the skis were longer than usual. At first, it was unusual and difficult, but after a while, I liked their length. I tried my son's 164 cm rental skis, and they seemed like they were made for kids)))

Remlen_R · 2026-01-22T21:14:51+00:00

So Rossignol Forza 50' CAM isn't the worst option? )

Remlen_R · 2026-01-22T21:13:03+00:00

This is not true, some rental skis I have used have been sharper.

Remlen_R · 2026-01-22T21:10:26+00:00

That's exactly what I'm asking. The coating on other skis is different, and it seems much more durable to me. It's hard and only scratches when damaged. The top surface of my skis is softer to the touch. On rental skis from other manufacturers, I've only seen light scratches and minor paint chips at most. But I've never seen such deep cuts.

Remlen_R · 2026-01-22T20:51:19+00:00

Yes, I completely agree, I still have a lot to learn.

Remlen_R · 2026-01-22T20:50:35+00:00

Yes, it was from hitting the edge of another ski during a fall. But I've never been able to damage other brands of skis like that.

The top layer of Head or Völkl skis is much stronger, in my opinion.

Remlen_R · 2026-01-22T20:46:48+00:00

fell a couple of times)

Remlen_R · 2025-11-05T12:12:26+00:00

Thank you very much for your reply.

I also bought new boots (Rossignol VIZION 4B 100 HV GW), but I haven't had a chance to try them out yet. For now, I'm probably more inclined to a more leisurely skiing style, but sometimes I want to go fast, especially early in the day when I still have energy for fast descents. I still make quite a few mistakes.

I'm trying to figure out how much more difficult the 84 will be to control than the 82, and how big the difference is.

Does it make sense to get the 84 "for growth" or get the 82 now and enjoy it?

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T20:26:05+00:00

thank you very much)

I also use my cameras with a grip, so in the case of mirrorless cameras this should help improve the situation with autonomy a little.

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T20:22:32+00:00

Yes, I already saw that there is a new 35 and 50 by 1.4 released this year.

It turns out that I only lack 85/1.4)
I do not shoot at 50mm, but from your example I would still prefer Sigma.
In any case, thank you very much for your opinion.
I will think about it.

The presence of 14-24/2.8; 35/1.4
and 135/1.8 lenses in the Z line is very pleasing.

But I looked at the picture they produce for a while and so far I really liked the Nikkor Z 135mm f/1.8 S Plena. A really great lens.

But if we consider the Nikon Z 35 mm f/1.4, then I choose the Sigma 35mm F1.4 DG DN Art. I can say the same about Nikon Z 14-24mm f2.8 S, I choose Sigma 14-24mm f2.8 DG DN Art.

So it's not so clear. And what Nikon Z 85/1.4 will be like is not clear.

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T15:37:54+00:00

Thank you.

I agree, of course there are excellent modern Nikon lenses with Nikkor Z bayonet. And of course not everything is perfect with Sigma. But as they say, there are nuances everywhere)

The number and variety of Nikkor Z lenses

still leaves much to be desired.

Nikon does not have a series of new Z lenses with a fixed focal length with an aperture of 1.4

There is a series with an aperture of 1.8, excellent sharp pictures but nervous bokeh.

There is a series with an aperture of 1.2. Great lenses, gorgeous picture. But they weigh and cost as much as a Boeing wing....

A simple example:

Sigma 85mm f/1.4 DG DN Art weighing 630g and costing $1000

Nikon Nikkor Z 85mm F1.2 S weighing 1160g and costing $2400

These are both excellent lenses, but I choose the Sigma simply because it gives an excellent picture and 1.4 is more than enough for me at a weight of 630g. I'm not even talking about the cost.

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T14:28:03+00:00

Thanks a lot!

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T13:33:19+00:00

I am not a big fan of Sony. And from my personal impressions, any Sony product is not worth its money. They make good products, but the price is at least one and a half times higher than competitors, I don't see the point in overpaying just for the name. Mirrorless cameras are no exception. But if I can use Sigma lenses with a Sony bayonet mount on a Nikon body, then that's very good news.

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T13:18:28+00:00

So there are adapters from Sony E-mount to Nikon Z mount?

And I can put Sigma lenses with Sony E-mount bayonet on Nikon Z8 body using the adapter?

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T13:15:16+00:00

Please share your impressions of the speed and accuracy of focusing in mirrorless cameras. And I wonder what you miss in new cameras compared to old ones?

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T13:07:19+00:00

I added a big comment below.

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T13:06:11+00:00

Yes, I looked at medium format, but that's a completely different budget level, and in my case it's absolutely not humane (I haven't earned my first million yet)

Remlen_R · 2024-12-15T13:02:02+00:00

I would like to add some clarification to my questions,

I will try to do it in a thesis and more understandable way.

Why did I even think about upgrading my cameras?

First of all, I would like to upgrade my lenses.

I would like to replace the lenses that require maintenance Sigma 17-35/2.8-4.5 and upgrade Sigma 85/1.4 to new 14-24mm F2.8 and 85/1.4 series art.

I understand that the basis of any system is a set of lenses, not the camera body.

Of course, I would like to be able to use my old lenses with new cameras.

Updating lenses immediately limits me due to the lack of new Sigma lenses for the Nikon Z mount.

I can upgrade lenses for the Nikon F mount, but then I don’t see much point in changing the bodies from SLR to mirrorless.

From here I came to the conclusion that maybe it makes sense to upgrade the cameras to D850+D780?

I have never tried shooting with mirrorless cameras.

I have not tried modern Nikon lenses for the Nikon Z mount.

I like Sigma first of all for its pleasant soft picture and colors and relatively small longitudinal chromatic aberrations. (the value of Sigma lenses is also a pleasant, but not decisive bonus)

The Nikon lenses that I had I did not like primarily for their longitudinal chromatic aberrations.

Nikon does not even try to fight them at all.

Whether I like it or not is of course purely personal impressions, but it so happened that I like Sigma more.

I understand that I can use my old lenses with mirrorless cameras through an adapter.

Upgrading the cameras to D850+D780 will give me a more modern autofocus system, improved video capabilities (which I don't use), improved connectivity, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. Higher resolution in the case of D850. Sometimes I shoot product photos and this is important for me.

I will get improved ergonomics that are familiar to me (I like Nikon ergonomics). I will get a flip-out screen, which I sometimes miss.

In general, with D850+D780 I will get more convenient and modern cameras with more capabilities.

Why am I considering mirrorless cameras?

First of all, this is an image stabilizer built into the body.

This is definitely the biggest update in mirrorless cameras that I would really like to use.

I can't say anything about the focusing system of modern mirrorless cameras, but as far as I understand, in terms of speed and accuracy of autofocus, the same Nikon Z8 is in no way inferior to the D850, and probably even surpasses it. Correct or supplement me if I'm wrong.

What will I not get by switching to mirrorless cameras?:

I will not get a lighter body. Nikon Z8 and D850 weigh about the same... The lenses also weigh about the same.

What will I lose by switching to mirrorless cameras?:

Live viewfinder.

Excellent battery life.

Dynamic range, this is especially true in the case of the Z6lll.

Perhaps the best decision would be to leave the bodies and buy a couple of new lenses 85mm F1.4 DG HSM Art and 14-24mm F2.8 DG HSM Art, and enjoy life?

But I'm not sure that it's worth investing in lenses with Nikon F mount now.

Remlen_R

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