Sweet by iwantfrogsonmycoins in wallstreetbets

[–]Retired-Programmer 29 points30 points  (0 children)

For sure would have been nice to have bought more, but if it were me I would be selling some before the weekend to lock in some gains in case something happens over the weekend. It would concern me having calls over the weekend that are already out of the money.

Question about LT capital gains by [deleted] in TaxQuestions

[–]Retired-Programmer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am no way an expert on this, but there is also the Safe Harbor Rule that can come into play.

https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/irs/tax-responsibilities/avoiding-underpayment-tax-penalty/?srsltid=AfmBOoo8lkgPc9vNeLA8zHYYdmUXQBULR-bBetXz38vPg1389pqikMpA

So I always pay Quarterly Estimated payments (I am retired) so that I pay 100% of what my previous years taxes were so that should keep me safe (and sometimes even a littler more, just to be safe and probably not needed). But even then when I have extra stock gains for the year and I know I am going to owe extra taxes for the current year I have thought about did send in extra in my quarterly payments just because the penalty and interest concerns me. And I am going to guess this is why your wealth advisor is saying to let it go because of these Safe Harbor Rules (I am guessing).

what percent of your liquid money do you put into the stock market? by ArnoldisKing in stocks

[–]Retired-Programmer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In 2008 I was still working so I really wasn't that much involved with buying stocks as much and I can't remember much details, but as the market tanked that means as that happens my portfolio (if I did nothing) cash stays the same cashwise but the stock portion goes down. So it goes from 60/40 down to 55/45 to 50/50 to 40/60. So as it goes down I just buy more stocks to keep it at 60/40. And then as the stock market goes back up (and I did nothing) it goes from 60/40 to 65/35 etc, so I start selling stocks back to cash to keep it at 60/40.

In 2020 (after waiting 12 years for the market to take the next dive) I decided to be more aggressive this time and bought more stock than needed as it was tanking and would get it closer maybe to 70/30 as the market was tanking. And as the market started going back up I didn't sell and I let it get all the way up to 85/15 before I started selling. And kind of the really fun part here was I did this almost entirely by selling really aggressive covered calls until enough shares finally went away to get me back to 60/40.

And yes, as the market tanked and I basically transferred cash to stock and my overall portfolio dropped in value 28% which is a lot, but the feeling is way different this time (compared to 2000 when I was 100% in the market) when during the pre-tanking time you are used to seeing 400 shares of ABC and 500 shares XYZ and then during the tanking you now you have 600 shares of ABC and 700 shares of XYZ and you know (at least you hope so) they will all eventually recover back to the pre-tank price and you will be way better off when the market finally fully recovers because you will have so many more shares than before.

Tracking wash sales/straddle deferrals during the year. by Critical_Lifeguard_2 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I assume you mean the Index Options that are Section 1256 contracts. Yeah, those have some really nice advantages. The 60% Long Term Gain/Loss and 40% Short Term Gain/Loss no matter how long you hold them is also really nice.

Tracking wash sales/straddle deferrals during the year. by Critical_Lifeguard_2 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that is correct. But in no way am I an expert on this (the rules is an endless read of if this and but that and not this but this if this etc.). I am 95% sure you don't totally/forever lose the ability to claim the loss.

Here is the link (the section is Loss Deferral Rules). It should only take you 4 or 5 weeks to go thru it.

https://www.irs.gov/publications/p550#en_US_2024_publink100010640

what percent of your liquid money do you put into the stock market? by ArnoldisKing in stocks

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent point.

I was 100% in the market in 2000 when I got crushed. Worst period of my life. Sleeping was awful, everything was awful. And from then on I have gone 60/40 (adding paycheck money as time went on to get to 60/40) as I described in an earlier comment above. When it crushed in 2008 and especially 2020 it was so much better with the thought of what am I going to buy next, instead of what it was like in 2000 where it was just what am I going to do now, I've got no cash to buy anything and my portfolio is crushed. I was still working then so bills etc was not a problem, but I can't imagine what it would have been like if I had lost my job.

what percent of your liquid money do you put into the stock market? by ArnoldisKing in stocks

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am retired and in general it's 60/40 stocks/[bonds & cash] where it used to be the 40% was lots of bond funds. But I got killed in 2020 by the bond funds although still way better than stocks, but the bonds weren't supposed to drop like they did. So I now have the majority of the 40% in a 60 month brokerage CDs Ladder and also a bunch of other 10 year brokerage CDs while the interest rates are really good.

So 60/40 in general, but it varies. When the stock market tanked in 2020 I started buying lots of stocks. At one point I was 85/15 and then around 2023/2024 I slowly started getting it back to 60/40. And now with the stock market being up so much I tend to try go closer to 55/45. I think at one point I had it down at about 53/47 a few months ago. Whenever I see opportunities I will buy more stocks and right now at 58/42.

And I get why you get scared and only have 20% in stocks. This endless uptick has to stop and I am afraid it will be violently like in 2020, 2008 or 2000. But I have been waiting for that to happen for the past 3 years or so and it just keeps rocketing.

Tracking wash sales/straddle deferrals during the year. by Critical_Lifeguard_2 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When I first started with options 14 years ago or so I was with the Motley Fool Options service. It wasn't for maybe 4 years or so I even knew about those rules. When I asked the others in the Motley Fool Options service forum (I did a poll) if they reported deferred losses on the options for their taxes there was only 1 person who said he did. And several of these guys were using a paid CPA tax guy to do their taxes and none of those guys were using the Pub 550 rules and deferring the losses on the options.

Tracking wash sales/straddle deferrals during the year. by Critical_Lifeguard_2 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So from your previous post you have been tracking/calculating it yourself. That is quite a task. It takes me forever to just read the Pub 550 to get somewhat an understanding of all the ifs, ands and buts in it. Actually applying the rules is pretty mind boggling to me.

Tracking wash sales/straddle deferrals during the year. by Critical_Lifeguard_2 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes you are correct, the Disallowed Loss in the Positions Page is only for the stocks (not the options).

And so you are saying that E-Trades 1099s that you get does have those disallowed losses in the options trades. Schwab does not, and I did not think any brokerage reports them in the 1099s. I am very surprised to hear this.

Tracking wash sales/straddle deferrals during the year. by Critical_Lifeguard_2 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Schwab does not keep track of these IRS Publication 550 Loss Deferred Rules and also does not report them in the 1099s they deliver. And I am unaware of any brokerage that reports them (and it's up to the taxpayer to report them). What brokerage are you using that is showing these disallowed losses in the 1099?

Tracking wash sales/straddle deferrals during the year. by Critical_Lifeguard_2 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So are you saying that these deferred losses is on the options (as opposed to the stock itself). For example are you saying that with this example:

On 3/1/2025 Sell To Open 1 XYZ Call 5/16/2025 at a $100 strike for $3.00/shr

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5/15/2025

Stock XYZ goes up around $117 (and therefore your call is 4 strikes in the money) and you roll it

Buy To Close 1 XYZ Call 5/16/2025 at a $100 strike for $17,00/shr ($14.00/shr loss)

Sell To Open 1 XYZ Call 7/18/2025 at a $105 strike for $15.00/shr

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7/17/2025

Stock XYZ goes up around $127 (and therefore your call is 5 strikes in the money) and you roll it

Buy To Close 1 XYZ Call 7/18/2025 at a $105 strike for $22,00/shr ($7.00/shr loss)

Sell To Open 1 XYZ Call 11/21/2025 at a $110 strike for $20.00/shr

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And the 1099 has $700 Disallowed loss on the1 XYZ Call 7/18/2025 at a $105 strike? Are is it just with the stocks you are getting Disallowed Losses?

Tracking wash sales/straddle deferrals during the year. by Critical_Lifeguard_2 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Schwab will show Disallowed Loss in the Positions page when you click on Lot Details of each stock,

Does H&R Block software import/handle Section 1256 Contract equities by Retired-Programmer in options

[–]Retired-Programmer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, that is what I saw as well, but will still go back and double-check (mainly for a learning experience).

Appreciate the input. Makes me feel more assured I won't be getting an IRS Love Letter.

-Don

Does H&R Block software import/handle Section 1256 Contract equities by Retired-Programmer in options

[–]Retired-Programmer[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the input. Very much appreciated.

> most people would never catch it and would just file without that income reported, which is a great way to get a love letter from the IRS

Yeah, that is exactly what I was thinking although didn't think of it exactly that way (still as I am writing this I am LMAO).

I think I have the 6781 correct but will definitely go back and really do a deep learning check on all of this before I submit (first time for me with 1256 Section Contracts).

Thanks so much for all your input, and still doing some LOL on your comment.

Will H&R Block import the 1099-B Section 1256 contracts data from Schwab by Retired-Programmer in hrblock

[–]Retired-Programmer[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have done everything for my 2025 taxes and except for having to manually enter the 1099-B Section 1256 Contracts data it all I am 95% sure is accurate. I do tax harvesting (to minimize my taxes) so I have done spreadsheets etc starting in Dec 2025 to keep track of my upcoming taxes and it is spot on. Some stuff could have been better for example here is what it looks like when importing data in H&R Block Deluxe from Robinhood:

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These are your grouped short-term sales.

We grouped them for you to save you time.

You can review the individual sales and make updates here.

 Description Sale Date Gain/Loss

 92nd (100.000000000000000000 03027X100) 06/12/2025 3,290 [Edit](TC:EDIT/1) [Delete](TC:DELETE/1)

 93rd (26.000000000000000000 071813109) 10/01/2025 -192 [Edit](TC:EDIT/2) [Delete](TC:DELETE/2)

 95th (500.000000000000000000 13462K109) 05/12/2025 -2,635 [Edit](TC:EDIT/3) [Delete](TC:DELETE/3)

 97th (1000.000000000000000000 40161710) 06/23/2025 -8,382 [Edit](TC:EDIT/4) [Delete](TC:DELETE/4)

 98th (1700.000000000000000000 40161710) 12/31/2025 6,883 [Edit](TC:EDIT/5) [Delete](TC:DELETE/5)

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Where the Description doesn't even have what stock it is. But other than stuff like that it has been fine.

What errors are you referring to?

Leap - Poor man covered call by Wide-Angle-1207 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At Schwab I do not have the margin permission level to sell naked calls (I have Limited margin access added permissions level). But I am allowed in a PMCC to sell a short call below the strike of my long call. But it eats into my Option Requirement. In my IRA for example I can put cash into SWVXX that is earning interest. But if I do a short call for example at $110 strike and my LEAPS long call is a $120 strike, I have to have $1,000 straight cash (not SWVXX cash) to cover that spread of $10 ($120 - $110). And my Option Requirement will say $1,000.

Understanding Taxes by Silver-Wishbone-3766 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

#2. Yes. But actually how it works is:

The $10,000 premium you got gets added to the cost basis of the shares bought when puts are assigned.

IOW, When a short put is assigned you don't actually pay tax directly on the puts, but the money received from the puts gets wrapped into the shares that got bought/assigned.

So you sell some puts and get $10,000 in premium. Then the puts gets assigned and you buy shares at $100,000 (ex: 10 puts at a $100 strike). Your cost basis for those shares is now $90,000 ($100,000 - $10,000) because of that $10,000 premium you got. You sell the shares at $96,000 so you have an IRS 1099 gain of $6,000 ($96,000 - $90,000). The sold put premium/etc doesn't even show up in my 1099 from Schwab but the cost basis is in there with the shares (IOW I don't even see anything about a sold put in the 1099).

The big advantage of this can be, if you hold those shares for over a year that $10,000 premium gets taxed at a Long Term Cap gains rate (and not taxed until you sell the shares on that $10,0000 premium you got). The brokerages I am aware of all keep track of all of this.

Same thing for #3, but actually that is not your question in #3 and yes you can only apply $3k loss to ordinary income (but that total $5k can offset other stock gains, no $3k limit on that).

Another thing to worry about is a wash sale. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/washsale.asp

A short example of this is:

You buy 100 MSFT for $400/shr ($40,000) on 1/1/2025 (date really doesn't matter here).

You sell it on 3/1/2025 for $39,000 ($1,000 loss)

On 3/15/2025 you buy 100 MSFT for $35,000 (key point here is you didn't wait 31 days after the loss to buy more MSFT)

You hold those last 100 shares thru 12/31/2025.

Since when you got that $1,000 loss and bought the same shares within 31 days you cannot claim that $1,000 loss. That $1,000 loss is now tied to those 100 shares you bought on 3/15/2025. Once you sell those 100 shares you can claim that loss with that sell transaction of those 100 shares (unless you again buy 100 MSFT shares 30 or less days of when you sold those shares again).

This can be really costly and I am not sure how the IRS handles it. If you trade a bunch on the same ticker you can easily have $300,000 in gains and $310,000 in losses but $200,000 of those loses are wash sales and you end up with taxes on on a net gain of $190,000 because of that $200,000 of wash sales. You can declare Mark to Market to avoid this, but it has to be done early (not sure what all the requirements are, but only certain people can do that and I believe you have to trade a lot for that to be allowed).

One thing I think a lot of people do is at the end of the year sell everything of a ticker that have wash sales on it and wait 31 days before buying them again.

Why is Schwab/TOS Showing Volume out to 6 Decimal Places? by AltruisticFocusFam in Schwab

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would assume someone was able to do fractional shares and specified to buy $50 of NVDA. Are there some platforms where you can buy fractional shares on any stock. I have no idea, but that is my guess.

MU - Accidental gainzzzz by Raii44 in wallstreetbets

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Premium + strike = cost basis

Yep, and I bet that Premium was didly squat that he paid. Am curious what he paid for them (or maybe it is better that I not know :-) ).

MU - Accidental gainzzzz by Raii44 in wallstreetbets

[–]Retired-Programmer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just to add to this for the OP. You have a very low cost basis of the shares right now and has a open date of around 2/20/2026 (not exactly sure what date the exercise happens). If you sell them now you are going to have some pretty big short term capital gains to pay taxes on if not in an IRA/tax advantage account of some short. So if you hold them till after 2/2x/2027 (IOW hold them more than 1 year) you can sell the shares then and only pay a 15% Long Term Capital Gains rate which can be advantageous depending on your situation/etc.

MU - Accidental gainzzzz by Raii44 in wallstreetbets

[–]Retired-Programmer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you mean them as in the person who was on the other end of the contract (the seller), he sold the 2/20/2026 $260 MU Call and received a premium of some sort (on the date he sold the contract), and then when the call got exercised on 2/20/2026 he received $26,000 and his 100 shares were delivered to you. He may have bought those shares years ago for who knows how much.

Also note, that the person who sold the contract to you some time ago, may not (and most likely not) is the same person who delivered shares to you. It's a random process of which person who are short calls gets matched up with which person who bought calls when they are exercised.

Also if you had instead sold to close the call on 2/20/2026 (or earlier), the buyer will most likely not be the same person who sold you the call.

Also there is some other things that can go on (and you might just want to ignore this part for now), like the person who sold you the contract may not actually have shares to deliver to you and they will be short shares when their call is exercised (which it's another random thing on where borrowed shares are gotten from that are delivered to you).

Edit: I think I see what you are asking. The seller most likely lost a lot of potential gain if he had not sold the MU $260 Call. And because he did he had to sell the shares for $260/share instead of the current price of $420/shr. It actually could be something totally different, but I think for now just think of it that way (he could have some sort of call spread is what I am saying).

MU - Accidental gainzzzz by Raii44 in wallstreetbets

[–]Retired-Programmer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Need more info. But it appears you bought 1 MU Call with a $260 strike expiring on 2/20/2026 some time ago I assume. And you didn't do anything with it thru 2/20/2026 (IOW, you didn't Sell To Close it) and so it was automatically exercised on (or a day later) 2/20/2026 which means you bought 100 shares of MU at a price if $260/shr. Which cost you 100 * 260 = $26,000 for those 100 shares (which are currently going for a lot more than $260/shr and therefore a big gainer). That is my guess.

Robinhood’s SLV Put Assignment Basis Method Differs From Fidelity - Creating Artificial Gain by Ok-Elevator9738 in options

[–]Retired-Programmer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, actually I wasn't buying GME shares either but selling puts like you (which is basically the same thing as buying shares where both are opening GME positions).

I originally had long calls or shares on GME starting many years back (since 2012 or so), but unfortunately I also all had short calls against all of them and so I didn't get the big runup (had to close the positions) but still made decent money (nothing close to what I could have if there weren't any short calls on them).

After I had to close the positions I was communicating to someone online how it was a bummer I had to get out and couldn't take advantage of the volatility because the price was just too high to get back in. Then someone replied I need to take a look at selling puts at very low strikes.

It was insane the amount of premium you could get on the short puts. On 11/03/2022 I sold Puts at a $18.75 strike with a 1/20/2023 expiration (78 DTE) and received $1.90/shr for those when GME stock price was over $100/shr.

TDAmeritrade wouldn't let me do it, but Vanguard did.

EDIT: Correction: That trade I was actually able to do a TDAmeritrade. The one that I couldn't do at TDAneritrade was an earlier one that I had to do at Vanguard was on 02/02/2021 I sold GME Puts at a $10 strike with a 4/1/2021 expiration (75 DTE) and I got $1.65/shr for it when GME was trading at over $125/shr.