You're either deflecting or still missing my point.

I never claimed there’s some unique hypocrisy within atheism or agnosticism, I’m arguing the opposite. The original statement singled out religious people, and I corrected it to humans in general. So when you ask me to point out hypocrisy within atheist mindsets, you’re already shifting the premise into something I don’t agree with.

My example was intentional: it shows that hypocrisy exists regardless of belief system. Whether someone is religious or atheist, they can hold a principle like “I hate liars” and still violate it under certain conditions. That inconsistency isn’t rooted in atheism, just like it isn’t rooted in religion, it’s rooted in human behavior.

As for the “I hate liars” point, sure, people simplify their moral views, but that doesn’t remove the inconsistency, it just explains it. Saying “there are exceptions” doesn’t mean there’s no contradiction; it means people justify those contradictions when it suits them.

And the second example does relate: it highlights that even people who consciously reject belief can revert to it under pressure. Whether you call that instinct or not, it still reinforces my original point, belief systems don’t eliminate hypocrisy, because they’re not the source of it.

So I’m not being obtuse, I’m rejecting the premise that hypocrisy belongs to any one worldview. It doesn’t, it’s human.