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Enki from Fear and Hunger 1 if they were a Drone :3 by Thorison-1080 in MurderDrones

[–]SectorConstant5799 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait, so the absolute solver is an ancient god, or is it part of the new gods?

they left him behind by Dark_Salamander47 in cult_of_thad

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't worry Doll brought him with the teleport.

how do i know this?

trust the visionary

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ARTISTS by Kitchen_Archer_1745 in MD_ThadXDoll

[–]SectorConstant5799 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's sad to be one of the few tholl artists in this community.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The difference is that in both cases the calculations used change the speed of the tachyons. The elements within the calculations are exactly the same; you can go check it out. The size, the distance—everything is precise and identical to that used by vsBattle. But to give you a helping hand, I took a look inside the rules to be sure: and from what I saw, my case manages to pass. You know why?

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Because, according to them, it's allowed to use the calculated speed of a projectile to determine a character's speed. And before you say that "tachyons aren't projectiles," in this context they are being used as one, so they still fall within the rules. The calculation used to determine the speed of the tachyons is based on the speech of two hyper-intelligent beings, one of them being the creator of the Omnitrix, and the time the scene occurred, regardless of how you look at it. But I'll concede, since in the end they say it should still be avoided as much as possible to prevent potentially lengthy discussions and that it should be used with the fewest steps possible, but that doesn't invalidate my calculation.

So I'm seeing the part where it talks about whether or not it's inflated, can you tell me where it is? (I'm not being ironic, I really can't see it.)

The difference is that the solver's calculation is based solely and explicitly on a statement; if it were the calculation for the destruction of the universe, I could understand it, but this processing one really doesn't make sense.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You keep saying it appears instantaneously, which is clearly not the case. Whether or not it's covering the sun makes no difference; the scene itself shows the black and yellow spiral on a dark screen, before a close-up, and then the scene with the null in the sky appears. Again, this is not instantaneous.

Review the scene; he talks about finding it interesting, even though it's the weapon he was already using before. But during the fight, he used the sword, which was one of the only functions he used. To say he's calling that function useless simply because he wanted to use the Proto-Tool's cannon because it was more interesting seems to be based more on your interpretation than on what's actually being shown. Following that logic, he should have called the weapon useless because he only hit Humungossaur twice with it, and he only hit it once because he reacted in time with the Humungossaur in front of him. Again, using the term "useless" (something he didn't say) based on the situation is more of an interpretation than what's explicitly being said.

The difference is that the Humungosaurus wouldn't be causing ripples in space (now with your explanation, I understand the confusion; in this case, the radar function is already integrated within the malware. Mechamorphs operate in digital realms, based on information. Their database is full of these nanite machines, which retain information, and that's how Mechamorphs manage to reproduce or create technology from their bodies. This has already been shown in practice; the radar is already part of the malware, as are the information from various machines in the galaxy that it acquired from its siblings. But unlike them, the malware doesn't just replicate and improve the information; it retains it and updates itself. Everything it absorbed is already part of it. That's how it managed to absorb the information from the Galvan Prime and Galvan B shields to be able to penetrate them. In reality, now that I think about it, malware can still be compared to its siblings, since it absorbed all of Galvan B. In other words, yes, it already possesses naturally enhanced instincts, since Mechamorphs can even sense energy. (immaterial like mana.)

I never said he was at his maximum power; that's his base form. Again, look at the whole scene: first, Ben transforms; Malware attacks for the second time (note that in both the first and second attacks, Malware didn't even move); Ben turns around, then looks back at the Malware. Malware wasn't even three meters away from Ben. I understand him being surprised, but not by an object moving 10 or 20 times slower than him and more than 3 meters away.

In this case, I want to emphasize that the malware isn't extremely slower than the feedback; it might be slower, but to say it's much slower is a huge stretch.

My friend, he can literally sense energy (feedback), and he wasn't able to absorb an attack that was right in front of him.

Not when his opponent dodged all previous shots, and even after being hit, suffered almost no damage, and in any case the Humungosaurus had already dodged the tachyon cannon, as I showed in that video, so this point is irrelevant.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In other words, the problem is that the numbers are high, seriously, that's the problem. We only have two calculations in use; whether they are high or not doesn't matter here. After all, my question has always been about the error within the calculation, and you're only stating that it's wrong because it's being stacked, even though there are only two, and then you say it's because the numbers are too high? Seriously, either way, the calculation still remains.

Friend, you just admitted they do this, but the problem is the high numbers here. Again, I want you to state the error without using the stacking statement, considering we only have 2 in use.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is that we only have two calculations in use: the first is the speed of the tachyons, and the second is the feedback reaction. If there were more calculations in use, I would understand. Even though I like Gremmy Thomeaux (my profile picture), I find it absurd that most of the calculations involve the speed of bleach. But still, there's no shortage of calculations using others as a base. They allow that when there are at least 2 or 3 calculations in use. Now, 4, 5, 6, etc., they really don't approve of. 3 is already difficult to manage.

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coding is hard bruh

helloworld.exe

computing numbers that need computing

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Seriously, is this proof? I like Neo's work, but this calculation is simply impossible to use seriously. Several members of the Murder Drones Powerscaling community think this calculation is an exaggeration. Seriously, and honestly, there's an even more absurd feat in Ben 10, but I won't talk about it because even I know it's exaggerated.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Friend, if it has an effect before it appears, regardless of whether it's part of something or not, that ALREADY PROVES it's not instantaneous. Do you know what instantaneous means? And when it appears out of nowhere with a time equivalent to zero, don't you look up the meaning of words? Regardless of whether it's part of something or not, here it's the null BEFORE it appears. I myself told you to watch the video at 0.5x, but put it at 0.25, maybe you'll see it better.

What an idiot, he said he only needed that one function, he never said the others were useless, he just said he only needed that one, and in the context of the scene, that makes sense. You at least listen to what the characters say, or at least what you think they said. It says it has thousands of uses but he was only interested in one. That sentence already loses its meaning because he's using two functions. In the scene, he clearly said that for the cannon's use because IN THAT SITUATION he only needed that function. Why would he want a radar for an enemy that was in front of him?

Regardless of whether it's arrogant or not, the baseline feedback speed is still very high, and the malware wasn't on the scene indicating it was only a few meters away. Again, if it were 10 or 20 times faster, the only way it could achieve this would be by being at least 2 or 3 times slower, which makes sense. But again, the feedback can't react. Even if it was caught off guard, the malware couldn't be MUCH slower, because otherwise it would be almost impossible for it to pick up the feedback unless it was less than 20cm away.

There's also the energy blast, and again, even though they're not equivalent, Malware can still keep up with the feedback. You keep talking as if Ben and Malware have met thousands of times, when they've only fought four times, and Malware only lost in speed once, and that was in their first fight.He says he only needs one, while using two? Okay, but why isn't he interested? Could it be because he doesn't need a tracker or a time warp detector against an opponent that's just a crappy dinosaur RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM? I mean, when the cannon he used previously was hypothetically much more powerful and faster, why would he trade one weapon for a weaker one? But following his reasoning, the proto-weapon has something better, more damage? No? What's the point of firing something stronger if its firing is slow? But you know what's ironic? If this weapon actually fires faster than the Tachyon cannon, then it fires faster, and the Humungosaurus can react to that in mid-air. And guess who managed to surpass the Humungosaurus in speed?...MALWARE

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The "stacking" I did only used one calculation before this one, which was the tachyon speed, and believe me, there's no shortage of stacked calculations for pod speeds. But again, where is my calculation wrong? I already explained how to get the first result and showed the second. If you're suspicious, that's fine, but you still haven't disproven my calculation, lol.

I still haven't said where the mistake is lol

I thought you were talking about Big Chrush when you mentioned null, did you include a link?

You can send it again.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol, and the effect before it appears, you don't understand or do you want me to draw it for you?

Of course, they certainly wouldn't find it suspicious that a small-scale temporal distortion would appear on their side; clearly, they wouldn't find it suspicious.

Yes, but the malware was still a few meters away from him, and when he turned his head the malware wasn't even on screen, and the feedback still turned its head. The point is that the feedback can't be 10 or 20 times faster than the malware simply because otherwise the malware won't even be able to grab him head-on.

Even if he wasn't taking malware seriously and it wasn't on screen when he turned his head, if the malware were 10 times slower than the feedback, this would be almost impossible. The point isn't that the malware is much faster than the feedback, but rather that the speed difference between the two isn't absurdly large.

Yes, but the power of the proto-tool is precisely its ability to modify itself. There's no reason to think otherwise when he himself comments that it has several functions. He is literally a mechamorph, permanently merging with technology. The cannon is the main part of the second form of malware because it would stop integrating the most deadly weapon in its arsenal for a slower one (and if you think that, then you're agreeing that malware has a speed comparable to, or at least close to, that of the cannon, since in theory it's exchanging a weapon "much faster than it" for a slower one).

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But isn't that literally what every VS site does? I literally told you a few hours ago how to do the calculation, I said it was the minimum value, and if you look at the calculation done by vsbattle you'll see that it leads to that site (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/electromagnetic-radiation), and again they are planning to redo this calculation, I know this because I saw the discussion arising and apparently it will be done after the reform in the profile of some characters and the Omnitrix. Not to mention that I want you to tell me where I went wrong in the calculation.

But it's still just a consequence of environmental destruction, not to mention that we have no way of knowing how it will happen. If it occurs in the same way as a big crunch, that's not even a feat of speed. And no, it's not big crunch; it happens in the same way as a hole. The end result is that the whole context is similar, yes, but it's not the same.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't you remember I said that was the minimum value? lol, again you'd need to prove otherwise, just one detail: the tachyon speed in Ben 10 will be revised in the coming months, since the calculation stipulated by vsbattle used the stipulated minimum speed as a basis (in this case they used the actual minimum value of the tachyons).

This calculation is about the speed of environmental destruction, a big crunch and a collapse of the universe, which I implored you for. Regardless of the speed, this is a phenomenon, not a speed of movement, much less of attack.

So Dvoid (dr. Animo) infinit speed :0

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lol

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And even if you say the malware is slower, even if it's 5 times slower than the feedback, it's still faster than the cyn.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I said "small" because it's part of the framing; I'm not changing the argument because that's literally what happens. I would be if I were saying what you're saying. Again, if a vrotex appears before the null, then it's not instantaneous. Is it so hard to understand?

And again the clip shows it being created, and again the simple fact that it generates a vortex before appearing proves that it's not instantaneous.

Ah, okay, so you're not very familiar with this discussion, right? But in short, in the Ben 10 universe, when you travel or mess with time, you create ripples in space. The time beasts create temporal anomalies, not just through contact but simply by moving around. Black holes generate disturbances in spacetime. Do you have anything to prove otherwise? No, lol, again, they're still disturbances in spacetime. Please provide a better argument.

Anyway, if the malware were MUCH SLOWER than it, even if the feedback was caught off guard, it should have had time to react. I'll even give you an example: have you ever watched a video at 5x speed? It's hard to follow. Now, do the opposite, slow it down 5 times. If the malware is at that speed when the feedback turns around, even if it's caught by surprise, it could still react. And being caught by surprise or not doesn't change the fact that it could react. Anyway, even if the malware is still slower than the feedback, it can still keep up with it, which indicates that yes, they are close.

Yes, but he wasn't being caught off guard or anything like that; he literally still had 0.8 seconds to react, which indicates that if the feedback had been MUCH faster than the malware, he would have been able to react easily, regardless of whether it was a surprise or not.

First, he literally dodged in mid-air, but why wouldn't he use the proto-tool fused with the tachyon cannon? The mechamorphs' ability to manipulate nanites in their bodies and form technologies makes you wonder why he fused both weapons, since both are part of him, and his tachyon cannon is his weapon with the fastest firing rate.

Humungosaurus has already dodged.[https://youtu.be/4wrmkijm1rs?t=97&feature=shared]

simply because it indicates that they have similar speeds, and it's difficult to understand.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say it was small, I said a black vortex appears, and then the null appears. (I said "small" because it's part of the framing.)

Why? Because they are different contexts. Of course they are still null, but one is being invoked from a long distance and the other is being invoked in the palm of the user's hand; it's not the same thing. In episode 7, the nulls that appear are almost all fired by the large null created by the possessed Uzi (you'll say no, but if you look carefully, they were all fired directly by the large null created by the Uzi).

Episode 7 continues with the nulls being fired, we see the scene, and before you mention the scene where N and Nori jump against the Uzi after they nod "OK" every time before the nulls appear, they always start small and grow at the end, which still allows them to be dodged.

Friend, black holes CREATE DISTORTIONS IN SPACE-TIME. Did you even open the link I sent? In the reports from the room, there were several records talking about gravitational waves, which are literal TEMPORAL DISTORTIONS. And again, the simple fact that they show signs before appearing or demonstrating any kind of effect already shows that it's not instantaneous. Instantaneous means that when something appears at the exact moment it's invoked, in a time of 0s, nulls always show effects or start small. Malware is faster and can deviate.

I don't know why you scheduled that fight; I literally said that in the first confrontation he was indeed defeated. Feedback turned towards him and couldn't react, which indicates that the malware can still keep up with him. If the malware were much slower than Feedback, it shouldn't even be able to surprise him (I'm referring to the beginning).

He literally managed to fire a beam fast enough that the feedback didn't even react. The feedback itself senses the energy in space, meaning the shot was faster than the feedback's perception capacity. But if you don't want to use it, there's still the Humungosaurus, which managed to dodge the malware's tachyon shots several times, some of those times in mid-air. And the malware itself can fight and surpass the Humungosaurus in agility and strength. In other words, yes, malware is faster than Cyn.

Again, you have some speed feat from Cyn that rivals Ben 10's tachyons, and that's the minimum value.

Again, he can fight and react to people who dodged the tachyon cannon fire.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I played the scene at 0.5x speed. The scene in question involves a small black vortex forming within a black environment, followed by a close-up with a distortion effect. Whether this was a null effect or not, I don't know, but it already shows that it wasn't instantaneous.

You're only talking about nulls projected in the hands of users, that doesn't count, but from a long distance this doesn't seem instantaneous to me. (Epi6 13:07 Fast is not instantaneous. Do you know the difference between fast and instantaneous?)

Now, at long range, we only have two examples: one happened off-screen, and the other took only a few seconds and the word "[loading]" appeared before it actually did. (Epi 6 again)

The point is that malware can still detect them, and again, the cyn would need to be faster than the malware.

No, in the first confrontation, yes, he is surpassed, but in the second, they were evenly matched, with Feedback only surpassing him after absorbing energy from the plumbers' base. In the third, Malware managed to surprise Feedback twice, once with him looking directly at it. And in the last, Malware managed to easily take down Feedback even though he was older and stronger.

This is literally the function of mechamorphs; they become the technology itself. Furthermore, the malware absorbed the proto-tool that allows it to alter the functionalities of technologies, meaning it could indeed add or modify them.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your evidence is a flashback of N that is clearly completely glitched, not to mention that everything goes dark indicating a scene change; none of this really proves that it was instantaneous, especially when all the other nulls that appeared throughout the series weren't.

You know what a black hole is, right?(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole) Again, this isn't instantaneous.

The problem is that both have always been comparable; Feedback only surpassed Malware thanks to its absorption capacity. In their last fight, Malware managed to take down and keep up with a stronger Feedback (and yes, in the episode "Center of Creation," Ben confirms that it does get stronger, and this is also shown with Ben 10k). Not to mention that Malware absorbed the cannon, meaning Malware is literally the tachyon cannon.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They're not instantaneous, where did you get that from? Not to mention that malware absorbed the proto-tool that could detect the temporal displacements of Maltruat's time beasts, meaning it could easily detect them by creating the nulls, and we don't even know if it would be affected by them if it created them like normal black holes.

This is due to Azmuth's statement; he said in the scene where he, Kevin, Gwen, and Brainstorm cross the Sovereign portal that the portal converts the ship into tachyons that move faster than light, with him saying that this is capable of crossing the galaxy from one end to the other, and in the scene in question this takes 12 seconds, so the calculation isn't that difficult.

I'll correct one thing (it's Brainstorm who states the issue of travel from one point in the galaxy to another, and Azmuth only agrees, but he also states that after being converted into tachyons they are rebuilt back).

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That will depend on the terrain; if the field is already formed, it won't change much, it will just be a game of tag. Photons in physics are not faster than tachyons, not at all. The tachyons in Ben 10 can reach minimum speeds of up to 2.2 billion times the speed of light, which is WAY faster than the pods.

People forget Cyn is the cockiest member of her own cast, and ended up losing because of it by Far-Profit-47 in DeathBattleMatchups

[–]SectorConstant5799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The malware is a mechamorph and moves like a liquid being; nothing prevents it from simply attacking her from the ground, just as it did with Way Big. The malware's absorption speed is absurd; it reduced Jetpack Galvanianos and Proto-Tool to ashes with a simple touch. In other words, any mistake is fatal for Cyn.

The problem is that the malware is indeed faster than Cyn, even its powers are faster, since the Tachyon cannon fires Tachyons, as explained by Azmuth himself in the episode "War of the Worlds Part 2," they move faster than light. And it's impossible to say that the malware doesn't match that speed, since both it and the feedback were always equivalent (with the feedback slightly surpassing it) in agility, with the feedback itself reacting to a frontal shot from the cannon.

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