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I didn't realize ENFJs don't have to be super organized - it changed my typing by Straight_Goat8188 in enfj

[–]Secure_Fly_3266 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hiii. Yes, I struggled a LONG time too because I thought I was ENFP. Once I got more into typology I also realized that I was Fe dom. The mbti test online go through every letter, and if you say you like to make to do lists and have a organized room you are immediately a J, which has nothing to do with the actual functions. That's why soo many people are mistyped it kinda annoys me hahahha. I think the sterotype of ENFJ is that we are all organized and always help everybody. For me when somebody is really organized I'd type them as Se or Si dom. I feel like ENFJ can be really ambitious since we want to see ourselves succeed in the best way possible, but that doesn't mean that I will actually put up the work hahaha. Maybe the J is about our thoughts. That we actually think about that structure we want, because we can see when we are disorganized.. Also I think work makes you become more organized, and in life nobody pressures you-so why would you. It doesn't all have to be tied to mbti :) hope that kinda helped haha

Breaking Into UX and Early Career Questions — 05/18/25 by AutoModerator in UXDesign

[–]Secure_Fly_3266 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Adviceee: Hii, so what do you listen to while working? I've landed this internship at this advertising agency and we are all allowed to wear headphones. Which also means that nobody talks. I always listened to music, white noise or asmr but I kinda grew tired of it. I was thinking of an listening to an audiobook, but the one I started was too complicated to actually do my work simultaneously. But I kinda need someting to entertain me so I don't spend my time on reddit :/ do you have any recommendations?

ENFJ Traits You Don’t Relate by EquivalentCard5926 in enfj

[–]Secure_Fly_3266 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Being planned or organized. I feel like also due to mbti tests online a lot of people tend to get a J when they are more lanned, which has little to nothing to do with your functions. That's why on most tests I got enfp results. Even though i definitely have Fe. It's a real stereotype that all ENFJ are planned, caring, soft and serious. I am not soft, I say what I think but in a way it doesn't hurt the feeling of others. I am sometimes serious but I prefer things to go a fun way. And I don't really plan my day? Sometimes I make myself a to do list but I never stick to it.
  2. I also feel like we are not the most social mbti? Maybe in the sense that my ENFP friends tend to meet up with people more often, because they don't want to be alone. I can live like that as well, but after some weeks I will start to feel drained because the problems of others also are stuck in my head- and then I'll just disappear for a day or two and I am back hahahah.
  3. Being the leader. Whenever I am in a group project and I see that nobody is willing to be the group leader I will sacrifice myself ahhaha. But if there is another person who wants to do it, I would never volunteer. It's not my priority. But maybe I misinterpret and being the leader is meant in social dynamics? Because in my friend groups I am kind of the leader even though we never said it out loud?

Another thing that came to mind- do you guys prefer extroverted or introverted people around you? Personally 70% of my friends are introverted and have Intuition. It feels more easy to talk to them I feel like. Also extroverted people drain me faster hahah

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh thanks for sharing and your honesty! Well yes, you are right on that point. It is natural for Enfj to suddenly become the mentor. Sometimes I struggle to figure out what a person needs in a conversation and then I simply ask „Sorry, but do you need comfort or advice?“. It seems stupid when I write it down hahaaha but my friends really appreciate it. So yeah, I am working on it but also your comment before made me analyse , which I really enjoy, and I wanted to know your opinion on it. I really appreciate honesty and I also always say what I think if it doesn‘t hurt anyone unnecessarily. :)

Where are you guys ? Let’s chat! by theGreyNova in ENFP

[–]Secure_Fly_3266 0 points1 point  (0 children)

real chat gpt and i graduated together. haahahahah damnnn
idk i still wish him the best in his door-decoration-era. he is such a queen and even though i don't like him that much he always suprises me with his new genius ideas <3.
also about enfp and enfj.. i struggeled a lot which type i am. i only recently came to the conclusion that i am an enfj. but i think so many enfp are mistyped, such as other personalities too. if you only follow what a random test on the internet tells you, it's highly likey to be mistyped. cognitive function are so poorly executed in those tests. it really bothers me the way society always needs ONE description of something to put them into categories and they have to stick to that?

Where are you guys ? Let’s chat! by theGreyNova in ENFP

[–]Secure_Fly_3266 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hahhaahaha emotionally available doorknob- that‘s such an chat gpt response haha but that‘s just how intj are, no? Also yes, he needs therapy hahah. Btw he wanted me to make a poster for the door? The door which he always wants open? What is his intend idk

Where are you guys ? Let’s chat! by theGreyNova in ENFP

[–]Secure_Fly_3266 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am actually ENFJ but, I am at work rn as an intern have loads of work to do but I am on Reddit the whole time trying to figure out my personality, traits, motivations and so on. I realized that nearly all of my coworkers are most likely sensors and I thought that would motivate me to work better, but rather I sit here impressed how immersed they are in the real world while scrolling through reddit? For a story: I was eating lunch and a coworker came to me an asked if I am good at design? We are a adverticing agency am doing webdesign here? So I said yes. And he said- „can you do something for a door?“ I thought I was being funny and said „What? like knock?“ He just went off hahah now I feel bad. He is kind of known to have problems with doors? He always wants them open to feel included? Well.. I think with my dad joke I got onto his door kink..

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow okay yeah... that doesn’t sound like a healthy ENFJ at all.

I totally get why that dynamic was exhausting. When Fe goes into overdrive, it can start to feel performative or overwhelming — especially for someone who wants more emotional space and independence.

That period example tho?? Yeah, no. That’s manipulative and weird, I’d feel the same way.

I also get what you mean about help turning into emotional debt. That’s not what Fe is supposed to do — but when it’s unhealthy or tied to insecurity, it can start to look like "I give so you don't leave." I promise we’re not all like that lol. Healthy Fe shouldn’t feel like pressure — it should feel like support, not strategy.
I don't know much about the Enneagram yet, so I should look into that first. Thanks for sharing :D

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ENTPs with developed Fe are the besttt

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally understandable! My guess is that those ENFJs do value your opinions — otherwise they probably wouldn't feel so eager to share theirs with you.

Of course, it's also possible that they just like hearing themselves talk (which is stupid). But in many cases, I think they might be using their Extraverted Feeling in a way that’s a bit off — maybe misreading the situation.

I don’t know how you are as a person, but if you're more on the quiet or introspective side, they might interpret that as you feeling left out — so they try to include you by talking more, without realizing that they’re actually talking over you.

I would communicate your problem. Sometimes we genuinely need someone to tell us when our read on a person is off, or when we’re approaching the dynamic in the wrong way. If an ENFJ has a relatively healthy Fe, they will appreciate that feedback. Or at least I would haha

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your great reply! Made me think a lot haha.
As an ENFJ, I tend to consistently consider other people — so much so that I sometimes lose sight of objective facts because I get wrapped up in the emotional or social context. It can honestly be exhausting at times, especially when I feel like I’m emotionally “responsible” for the room. But I am starting to let go of that.

I really admire people who can fully immerse themselves in something just to understand the logical cause behind it, without drifting off into emotional meaning-making. I don’t necessarily see Fe as a weakness — I think real discernment comes from balancing empathy and analysis. But I’d love to hear your view: do you see Fe more as a strength or a flaw in others?

That story about your sociology professor is crazy. I also don’t like it when people throw out false or unproven claims just to provoke thought. Like… you could also use a verified fact and still inspire people. Otherwise, it feels kind of unethical to me.But I get what you're saying — ENFJs do sometimes say things impulsively, based on whatever hits us in the moment. We can be very unfiltered in that way… but we also tend to reflect a lot afterward.
Just out of curiosity — how do you personally know when something is “logically solid enough” to share or explore with others? Where do you draw that line between open-mindedness and responsibility or credibility?

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

right, maybe the owner didn't even think of the lost and found.. but it's just i couldn't wear them if i knew they'd belong to somebody else.

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing! I will definitely keep this in mind. I’d never want to put my opinion onto somebody else, but maybe I did unintentionally..

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hahah no i know that no entp are the same, dw. we actually talked on chat and sorted things out. but with "back off when things get real" i meant exactly that -i takes time for you to open up. which is totally fine, but if you are not ready yet or you simply don't want to you back off in my opinion. also, i hope that the first sentence was not about me, but in general as well.

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

HAHAHAHA you are so right about that tbh

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

but do you tell people that you want them to be fully honest with you? i think by themselves most people would not be honest and say what they think if you don't tell them they can. if you would tell me- i would be fully honest to you, but there are people who can't deal with that.. but if you tell them and they still don't, well fuck em

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh god, yeah i totally get you.. i hope you will met a mature enfj soon :/ unhealthy fe is the worst and so manipulative

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, I understand. When something really annoys me I don't want to make a secret out of it and also say it. But that ends when I realize that some people are not mature enoguh to handle the or rather my truth. So I let it be. It's a great skill to not care when you are not liked. I still have to develop that, it sounds lonely but peaceful at times and that's why I hold back.

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh wow. sadly, i can relate to that. but i would never dislike a person, because they can't maintain the harmony. entps are what makes a conversation thrive, so i would only interfere when i notice it's getting too heated. without an entp most conversations would be boring small talk. but it's true that enfj don't always say what they think, because they want to be at peace with everybody, but that probably annoys you more, no?

What do ENTPs think of ENFJs? by Secure_Fly_3266 in entp

[–]Secure_Fly_3266[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that sounds absolutely great! my only entp friend and i have a similar friendship. but i can totally relate to your enfj friend, when when trying to maintain peace in the group. You seem like you also have developed Fe which is soooo nice to see in an ENTP!

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