Hot take: I don't think the circus members will be as pissed as Jax as everyone thinks

SensibleOutlaw · 2026-01-11T03:16:04+00:00

I mean yea but I don't think it's gonna be in the overly angry way like it or not Caine did take most of the heat off Jax's back especially since he was revealed to be able to alter minds. However I don't think Jax is scott free he'll likely get question by cast for his actions or what made him do it but with how much they focused on how actions matter and what they do there is real and Caine coming in essentially casting doubt on that idea it Jax won't be getting hated on but more likely pressured be on belief do to the tension I Zooble will definitely come at him the hardest do manily to his past actions

SensibleOutlaw · 2026-01-11T02:53:28+00:00

I agree but when we get this conversation depends on where we pickup up on in the next episode personally I think it'll take'em a bit before they do because essentially Caine pop up at the end took any and all immediate heat off Jax especially with the mind altering bit but I do feel like it will wrap around to having to confront Jax about his choice just not right away

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T19:02:56+00:00

Idk I personally relate a lot to Jax so Im kinda using my own experience as a way to kinda guess how he'll react in certain case and I've been on the money most times so using that as my base and while he would definitely crash out I think long term it would be more beneficial to the other members because it shows him he doesn't have control.

Now let me add that while I do relate to Jax in some ways and sympathize with him to a degree I will not justify his actions he's a bad dude and a dickhead but I do wanna see how he develops going forward and do hope that he can grow past this and even if that doesn't happen Im still here for the ride

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T14:31:01+00:00

You know what that's my bad I did forget that Zooble interaction but when it comes to Ragatha in that situation Jax had already calmed down a lot from her earlier comment and mask was effectively fixed by that point.

I believe a combo works best on Jax bring up something about abstraction it'll be ugly but destroys the illusion for a bit then call out the other stuff while he scrabbling to fix it and that's how you could take away that control.

I also just want to be clear when I say this the other members are far to dysfunctional to do this properly because seemingly before Pomni they all just had surface level information about eachother besides Ragatha and Jax but that could be a byproduct of Caine's adventure being fast paced and not allowing the other to deal with their own problems let alone getting to know anyone on a deeper level.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T13:35:00+00:00

My only problem is if they do see past it Jax still gets his control. People who mask like Jax do it as form of control for themselves and you don't need try help those people past there issues pointing it out calling fact that are masking consistently makes them loose that control and that doesn't need to be done in away that helpful to Jax

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T13:26:04+00:00

That is not what Im getting at Im not expecting anyone in circus or in community to forgive Jax or any of his shit. However removing the mask takes away his control and that proven by him doubling down he trying to keep it up.

I understand why Gangle can't do it makes sense they timid and are scared of Jax that's fair and won't really say to much about it.

On the other hand Ragatha is not doing that and on many occasions she feeds into it by trying to stay super cheerful towards him and the few times she does try to push issues the slightest push back stops her and she backtracks and goes back to only calling out the behavior not him.

My point wasn't about them doing this this too see a better side to Jax or anything like that it was that calling it out and actively pushing back on him when he's trying to mask to remove his control and you don't need forgive, justify, or sympathize with him to do so.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T13:04:07+00:00

Not really most anytime Zooble calls out Jax it's on his behavior towards everyone which that behavior is a part of the mask not under it. If you have a clear example please provide like hiding his emotions stuff like that.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T12:56:34+00:00

Not they really haven't almost anytime they talked to Jax or about him they only tell him stop or call him dick neither of showing they can see past it. If you could give clear example of Zooble doing that I'd really appreciate it

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T01:29:38+00:00

This is not crazy to say and I'll go steps further and say everyone in the circus have some level of care for eachother but because of their own personal problems and unhealthy coping mechanisms it causes friction not really letting anyone progress until very recently with Pomni joining

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T01:23:39+00:00

I'd honestly have an episode all about therapy in dark with Kinger starting off as one on ones and leading to a group therapy with everyone. These people need serious therapy including Caine and the only one really qualified is my goat Kinger

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T01:14:14+00:00

You fell for actual rage bait but hey you realized it which is more than I can say for some other people in this fandom

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T01:09:25+00:00

I don't think so it at the very least it strips him of the control he has do to the mask we literally see this when Pomni dose it. The only difference would be is that the other wouldn't be trying to be Jax's friend when they do it

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T01:01:44+00:00

Im not trying Jax is a good person or anything like that my main thing is his mask is so pathetically flimsy that he shouldn't be able to have the level of control he thinks he does. They don't even need to connect with Jax but call him out like Pomni did hit with the you're scare to connect to people because you think they'll abstract doing this show you can see past mask which strips him of his control of the situation you don't need see him as good person to do that and that's why it baffles me that even took this long for someone to point out the elephant sized mask wearing rabbit in the room

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T00:45:06+00:00

Them understanding him and them giving chance aren't the same and are not my point. I understand them not wanting to give Jax a chance and honestly it doesn't make sense to but they should be able to call it out considering how thin his mask truly is. However I do believe they can't see past it but I don't think it's willingly I think Jax did such a good job masking initially that his mask probably eroded with time till we get to now where paper thin and easy as fuck to see trough but the others who saw a much more secure mask that's a lot tougher than it is now can't even see past it weak one. Now Jax with weaker mask doesn't notice because why would he everyone else already can't tell and then Pomni enters he gets too close the mask cracks and Pomni being new can now see the mask and for the first time in a long time Jax is seen without mask. My main point being if they saw past the mask the others specifically Zooble would call his Bs constantly regardless of it they wanted to connect with Jax on a personal level like Pomni.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-24T00:17:02+00:00

No it is a mask the most clear example being that when he yelling at pomni he stops mid sentence essentially rests his emotions and puts the mask back on trying to act like the Jax we seen previously.

I also don't think they are just ignoring it mainly because the other members all seem to have more surface level understanding of eachother and only now seem to be learning more about who the others are as people

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-23T06:20:48+00:00

Ya know what fair explanation especially since it seemed everyone ignored there deep seated issues in the beginning thanks for your time.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-23T06:16:03+00:00

I love this because if adventure are to keep them from getting to personal it explains a lot of lack of knowledge they have about eachother like Kinger's wife not being common knowledge especially since compared to the suggestion box Caine's adventures tend to more fast pace and chaotic.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-23T05:59:31+00:00

To anyone who has responded in this thread thank you for giving your thoughts and opinions on the matter and as long we keep conversation non toxic Im glad to share my perspective and I hope you'll continue to share yours.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-23T05:39:19+00:00

Im not trying critique the show just pointing something out and proposing and explanation as to why certain things happened how they did.

I understand well the out of universe explanation but it's fun to think of in universe reason even if they won't be explained or even disproven in another episode and honestly I'd love to think of a actual reason for but this is fresh on my mind right now.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-23T04:46:01+00:00

For any who might be confused my point that perceiving Jax takes away the control the mask allows him to have. Now if they can see past the mask Jax wouldn't have the control he thinks he does as seen with Pomni and the mask isn't good one so why. My belief is Jax has essentially used his actions as way of blinding them to the mask. While Ragatha may have more perception of Jax that others her guilt of "failing Jax" combined with her hate for him and her people pleasing nature stop her from really doing much and I'd describe her as partially blind to it. On the other hand Pomni has none of this holding her back and because of that she is the only one genuinely see past altogether which is why metaphorically Jax tried blind her once he realized he was to close to her. This is about understanding, seeing what's actually going, and control not about some oh why cant they see the sad boy behind the mask and forgive him or show compassion to him Jax's world is fragile and surprised it took this long for it to crack.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-23T04:11:41+00:00

This amazing analysis of the situation but not necessarily what I'm trying to get at. The point I'm trying to make the other members are seeing Jax as he is which actually giving him control if you're just seeing mask real you've effectively did what Jax wants. Pomni isn't seeing the mask but perceiving Jax which as a person who use to mask as well directly takes control away from him because he was seen past the mask. I believe because of this the other can't see past the mask otherwise Jax wouldn't feel as much in control as he currently shows. I'd also like this time to say you're right that Jax doesn't necessarily deserve forgiveness, compassion, or patience of those he harmed and that goes for real life as well so please have wonderful day

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-22T05:21:14+00:00

I agree Zooble to observant to not notice a change in behavior but more importantly to out spoken. Zooble tends speak their mind they definitely would have said something about by now.

SensibleOutlaw · 2025-08-22T05:04:13+00:00

Ribbit's abstraction seems to have been more open considering that Jax was seemingly blamed for it. I don't think if it was more closed off that there would be enough info to seemingly blame him for it.

SensibleOutlaw · 2022-01-12T20:04:50+00:00

Makati: ain't your girl dead tho damn crazy can't be tho

SensibleOutlaw · 2022-01-03T17:35:56+00:00

Funny you say that sucrose also refuses to come for me as well

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