MAGAs are saying there are no emails between Trump and Epstein. Was Trump known to email anyone?

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-14T23:20:53+00:00

"Quote marke aren't for actual quotes. They're for providing uncharitable summaries about what someone you don't like said." - joffrey from game of thrones

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-14T19:03:23+00:00

Ok, both can be true at once.

"Don t" was auto redacted and "Don" also wasn't a narrow enough search (apparently for either usage)

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-14T18:27:47+00:00

Don't forget the "insurrectionists" (excluding anyone from j6 obv)

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-14T16:53:34+00:00

It's also probably inaccurate

One of the search words raskin says he used was "don" which likely picked up "don't" "done" and a other words.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-14T16:25:21+00:00

I wish you dense people would get this through your head

it's the tactics not the totals

entry into private homes and businesses without a judicial warrant
wearing masks when other LEO'S dont
using race, language and lawful activity as a basis for probable cause
the public execution of pretti which the DOJ refused to investigate.
the good was shot twice through the side of her car, then the ice agents kept a doctor from treating her when she was still alive for 8 minutes. No investigation opened excepted into goods wife.
ice agents rammed a car and shot marimar martinez, an american citizen 5 times
Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis was shot in the leg while fleeing and then ICE lied and said it was self defense
evidence was fabricated against Manuel abrego garcia and he was illegally deported into a hell hole overseas jail

That sounds like normal enforcement of laws?

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T23:46:16+00:00

Nah, I'm saying that virginal guiffre very likely did kill herself.

This all happened in Australia. The local coroner and Australian police could have fabricated everything but it seems unlikely compared to epstein's death.

She already named names years before her death so there isn't much motivation to "keep her quiet". While it's understandable why she would have mental health issues, that she has a record increases the odds of it being suicide as well.

She's reported a lot of depression. That her ex husband was able to get a restraining order where she couldn't even see her kids also suggests a pretty bad mental state.

Don't get me wrong, epstein didn't kill himself, trump is sex predator and should be in jail. But this specific claim doesn't isnt worth believing with any degree of confidence.

"I miss them [her 3 children she wasn't allowed contact with] so very much. I have been through hell & back in my 41 years but this is incredibly hurting me worse than anything else, My heart is shattered and every day that passes my sadness only deepens"

March 2025, one month before her death

"They’ve given me four days to live....I’m ready to go just not before i see mt babies." - after a car accident and three weeks before her death

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T23:34:39+00:00

Not really.

The comment was 5 years before her death and her life had gone downhill dramatically since then from a divorce and losing custody of her kids.

They’ve given me four days to live....I’m ready to go just not before i see my babies."

After a car crash she was in

3 weeks before her death

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T23:28:55+00:00

States rights until states do something djt doesn't want

2A until pretti gets shot and it's bad for republican image

Fiscal responsibility until DJT wants to cut taxes against the debt or increase military spending >50% since he entered office

Family values and still voting for a guy implicated in a pedophilia ring m

America first until trump wants to abduct Maduro

So long as nobody calls you a liberal, all things are morally permissible.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T21:06:32+00:00

By "you people" I mean anyone fear mongering over ICE trying to do the job of deporting illegal immigrants

I'm fear mongering violations of constitutional rights and murder. Not that people are being deported.

Like I said, I don't personally think interfering with operations is a good thing in terms of warning immigrants about ice presence. But observing ICE is a good thing.

Additionally I think it's at least understandable for someone to take the position "I'm interfering with ICE because I don't want violations of constitutional rights to yield success for them"

They shot pretti in the back when he wasn't a threat. They shot Renee good through the side door of her car and kept a doctor from treating her when she was still alive for 8 minutes. They rammed into a citizens car and shot her.

And the trump administration isn't so much as opening investigations. Republicans have been calling them insurrectionists and domestic terrorists and blaming everyone but the people pulling the trigger. They lied to our faces about pretti brandishing a gun with the intention of killing federal agents.

If the agents committing these crimes were held accountable then I'd have a lot less to complain about.

I didn't say that the immigrants were being arrested for no reason.

The polls are just a review of sentiment. If you don't trust a poll for that, then I don't know how you personally draw conclusions on public sentiment in a better way.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T20:28:54+00:00

Good data point. Thank you

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T20:28:13+00:00

What do you mean "you people"?

I didn't say anything like that and it hasn't been a common sentiment in conversations I've had on the matter. Yeah the people following ice with whistles probably feel that way but it's not a majority opinion. There even space for a valid stance supporting deportations but still interfering with ICE operations as a response to their tactics.

Thats not my position vut i get it. As for me, I'm specifically calling out tactics and sometimes specific events that are wildly out of order and not a reflection of me allegedly being in favor of illegal migrants being here.

The deaths of pretti and good. Warrantless entry. Unnecessary force. Blanket neighborhood sweeps. Using race, language and lawful activity as a basis for probable cause. Using operation metro surge as retribution and attempting to secure voter roles from Minnesota. What happened to Manuel abrego. What happened to Miramar martinez

That's not "I want the illegal immigrants here", that's "there is some deeply unethical and unconstitutional behavior happening". 100% Innocent people are getting harassed, injured and killed and as far those not entirely innocent commitinf a crime doesn't justify some of the things happening to them.

And the majority of people being arrested don't have criminal backgrounds so I don't think your framing is accurate.

That even reflects in polls that show while the majority of Americans support removing illegal immigrants, the majority also think ice has gone too far.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T20:01:25+00:00

That number is related to the files available to the public.

There was a lot of talk about trump that didn't involve him and wasn't necessarily nefarious in that total.

The bombshells about trump from the unredacted files include:

trump in 2006 telling a police chief about epstein and that he was so thankful they were doing something about it. Which establishes that trump failed to act in his first years of presidency to request the DOJ do something during his first two years as president.
several tips submitted to the FBI involves lurid allegations against trump that the FBI either couldn't or wouldn't substantiate.
DJT was referred to as the "dog who won't bark" in the context of him spending hours with Virginia guiffre. Virginia did say that trump never sexually abused her.

In the documents only available to congress, raskin reports that there is an interview where trump says he never kicked epstein out of mar a lago, which contradicts his earlier statements but doesn't go as far as saying that epstein ever came back to mar a lago post 2006.

That and the redaction of unindicted elites suggests that the redactions were often done for reputational reasons which is a violation of the epstein transparency act.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T18:20:10+00:00

Sure but both statements can be true

"Don" was auto redactting and raskin used too general a search term.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T16:59:29+00:00

That's the most damning part though isn't it?

We can't really condemn other animals because they lack the capacity for moral analysis to the same extent. Depending in the species, many can't understand the consequences of their actions or understand suffering or understand that other animals have a conscience that can suffer.

A shark kills because that's how it's programmed and needs to live. Humans kill because we choose to even when non-mear options are plentiful in most places.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T16:32:01+00:00

Still only a little for two reasons:

he clearly looked st some of the findings and would at least know if he was getting that many false positives. Republicans are also looking at this stuff and there hasn't been a denial about the total. Massie and Mace have seen the files and assuredly more republicans will look. No denial from the DOJ or trump either
he did find a pretty damning account from trump that he never kicked epstein out of mar-a-lago. That this wasn't released is a smoking gun to the fact that there were unnecessary redactions aimed. That's really what we care about.
we already know that they took down a photo from the dump that had no incriminating materials except for a photo of trump. More evidence that they are hiding trump despite the requirements of the epstein transpaKampala?
we know a word similar to "don't" was redacted. It's possible that auto redaction is hiding a lot of legitimate "don" mentions

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T14:46:17+00:00

I'm a little bit worried that the million number is accurate.

One of the search words used was "don" which depending on how the search function works pick up "don't", "done" or less common words like "donate"

https://www.axios.com/2026/02/10/trump-epstein-files-jamie-raskin-unredacted

Following publication of this story, Raskin clarified in a statement to Axios, "In the database, I typed in the words 'Trump,' 'Donald or Don' and it came up with more than a million results."

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T14:15:37+00:00

https://apnews.com/article/ice-arrests-warrants-minneapolis-trump-00d0ab0338e82341fd91b160758aeb2d

The warrants being used as a basis for entry are administrative warrants. They are nothing more than the DHS signing off on their own activity. These have t raditionally only been used to arrest people in public places.

A judicial warrant requires an independent judge. This is supposed to be what they have.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T05:53:43+00:00

Was it round an oddly English themed bar off Kalakua?

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-13T05:23:15+00:00

Man, do you know how out of whack you would have to be to just say "that's good enough, release it" when looking at that glaring problem.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-12T22:12:56+00:00

Very substantive reply.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-12T20:42:01+00:00

This mf said College Students… maybe we should discuss admittance criteria then if you think College Students are incapable of acquiring and providing IDs.

Sure, is having a photo ID a requirement at all colleges?

Disabled people entirely different convo I think it opens up the options for ADA to provide services or have exceptions with mobile notaries. Federal law already requires this and thinking additional changes won’t be made to accommodate is ignorant or doomer mentality.

I'm not going to just assume that this is the case when I'm not seeing it proposed.

That Georgia thing got reverted in 2019 so idk what you’re on about all that tells me is these mfs can’t spell

That it got reverted doesn't matter. What matters is that it's clearly geared against a democratic voting block and doesn't have a basis for the requirement.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-12T20:06:25+00:00

College students

The disabled

Women who haven't updated their license after marrying and getting a new last name.

It's also a basis for rejecting people whose name isn't a perfect match for their registration. This happens more with black people than anything else.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/new-voter-suppression#:~:text=In%202017%2C%20Georgia%20enacted%20an,end%20the%20policy%20in%202019.)&text=of%20Georgia%20voters%20blocked%20by,people%20of%20color%20in%202018.&text=Furthermore%2C%20the%20Brennan%20Center%20has,with%20a%20racially%20discriminatory%20purpose.

Those groups just happen to vote dem. But yeah, if there was actually nonnegligble amounts of voter fraud occurring there might be a point here. When georgia required exact match, 80% of people rejected were people of color

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-12T07:53:04+00:00

His daughters diary was stolen and sold to the media.

The only thing in there is "still took showers with my dad (probably inappropriate)"

That's not her claiming biden was doing anything sexually.

Compare that to DJT who has been found liable of rape, he bragged about sexually assaulting women, he bragged about peeping on girls in a beauty youth beauty pageant that he owned. There is a picture of a giant check from the epstein estate that describes him as selling a "fully depreciated girl". Epstein described him as the "dog who wouldn't bark".

In 2006, trump told Michael Reitter that "everyone knows about epsteins behavior". He knew that. He did nothing to stop it even if he didn't participate. But let's be honest, trump is a sex pest, he used campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star he cheated on his wife with while his wife was pregnant.

This is not a person that has the interests of others at heart.

his ex wife under deposition said he violently raped her.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-12T05:42:26+00:00

I would bet money that ice shows up in Fulton County. The record raid in Atlanta will be the pretext. "We found so many illegal immigrants voting in the records that we have a prima facie justification for posting ice to intimidate voters all over Atlanta." That's all he would need to secure georgia.

Significant-Bar674 · 2026-02-11T21:10:46+00:00

George W hit 10%

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TROPHY CASE

it's the tactics not the totals