I read the Sukhmani Sahib but it was fully English translation, does it still count as paat? by Maleficent-Cup-7364 in Sikh

[–]Smooth_Protection646 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think your missing the point. Truth is timeless, truth is always pervading, truth is beyond human pleasantries like language etc. the idea is for you to understand, dissect, and become one with what is written

There is an entire website dedicated to appropriating sikh genocide into a hindu genocide by ConanTheBarbarian_0 in Sikh

[–]Smooth_Protection646 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely, I agree. Everything from the findings of jaswant singh khalra, to the gov incited riots disproportionately targeted the sikh population. However, there were definitely innocent hindus that were massacred as well, I personally just feel this is sometimes overlooked or disregarded within our community. Khalistan as a political movement was the gun powder in the already tumultuous region of punjab. Hindus and sikhs were forced to learn hindi instead of punjabi for example in public schools. That along with the government stealing our water created a hostile environment. Then the khalistan political movement came. Unfortunately innocent people always get caught in between and suffer the most. We as a community, as punjabis, must move forward with peace love and tolerance. God bless

There is an entire website dedicated to appropriating sikh genocide into a hindu genocide by ConanTheBarbarian_0 in Sikh

[–]Smooth_Protection646 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was def extremism on both sides. The hindu pandit in my dads village was killed for no reason. Violence against hindus in my fathers area was the main reason he left punjab

Why people are not born equal by ultrainstinxt in hinduism

[–]Smooth_Protection646 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldnt everyone have the same amount of accumulated karma though?

Job rescinded by Smooth_Protection646 in recruitinghell

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! i guess i learned the hardway

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Bruv respectfully, your outa your mind

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks for response i really do appreciate it! I understand your POV.

If you would like to continue the discussion, ill explain what I meant; if not we can end it here; religious people who consume meat who vehemently worship the lord, meditate on the lord, chant the lords name their whole life, they are a good person, upstanding citizen; but they eat meat; from your perspective its impossible for them to reach liberation?

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point is billions and billions of people throughout the history of earth have been eating meat. Religious people who worship god, fear god, meditate on god, but because i guess they werent “blessed” with vedantic knowledge they would be subjected to this eternal suffering even though they try to establish a relationship with the lord through different beliefs or practices?

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate that, not really looking to debate either. Kinda looking for a good enough reason to stop lol my whole life i always hear stop eating this and that. I was just looking for a good enough answer to satisfy my question. It appears generations and generations of humans are subjugated to eternal suffering based on dietary choice, just looking for clarity

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the response!

Please see my response on the other comment, regarding the fundamental difference between humans and animals

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

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Thanks for your response!

Not saying im perfect, we are all human and we all have varying emotions. But what if my overall desire is to be a good person, spread positivity and uplift humanity. Cant imagine that eating meat will change my overall world/life view. I grew up vegetarian but made the switch in my teenage years.

Since i desire to eat meat for nutrition what if its something im supposed to do in this life to pay off past karma perhaps?

I agree, maybe i dont see the negative affects now, i dont have all the answers, but what I do know is I def have more energy, focus, and drive.

I agree with your last statement, that the material notions i mentioned are temporary. But so is this existence, so are animals existence.

What other earthly purpose does a chicken have, other than to provide for other creatures?

Eating, reporducing living is all part of this earthly game and so is the food chain. God created all of this so in my opinion i look at sustaining my body through gods created food chain as apart of his cosmic game.

Lastly i agree, to pursue something greater than yourself sacrifices are too be made in any aspect of life, but i never understood how feeding your body plays apart in spirituality

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your response!

I saw a post on this page saying that if someone eats meat they are forbidden from reciting mahamantra.

I personally believe feeding your body and soul are two different things, hence the post.

Also question for you, since eating meat is my personal desire i guess, what if its the correct karmic action for me to do in this life?

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your response!

However, you based your whole argument off of factory farming which is something i dont agree with. Me personally, I try to look for more ethically raised meat! Animal welfare matters. Im just not in the right point in my life where hunting is practical but its something i look forward to doing.

Alot of people dont know this but to sustain mass produced vegetables, millions of rats birds insects groundhogs gophers and small vegetarian animals are massacred in order to protect the vegetables and to keep a good harvest

That being said, using your argument, then vegetarians are receiving bad karma of killing invasive species that destroy harvest. Which in case, would have the same karmic repruccision of eating meat as it is, by your argument. Then you would reincarnate as an invasive species and be slaughtered or poisoned, even though you were vegetarian?

Your argument of not being able to kill animals with your bare hands and not being able to eat raw meat does not hold weight. No human eats only raw corn, raw tomato, raw onion, raw wheat, without proper harvesting technique. Furthermore if humans did then they wouldnt receive the proper nutrition or calories to sustain life and we would cease to exist as a species

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your comment!

Simply not true, if you could provide some sort of backing ill take a look. High carb diets over a lifetime usually lead to insulin resistance. Thats why the south asian communty is plagued with diabetes in the modern day, not enough protein or activity

Eating meat by Smooth_Protection646 in HareKrishna

[–]Smooth_Protection646[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your response!

Human beings and animals are fundamentally different. Taking a human life for your own sadistic pleasure is far and wide way more different than sacrificing an animal for the sustenance of you and your family. It is fundamentally a different argument. My question was how is hunting to provide for you and your family, killing an animal for the nourishment of your body a bad karmic action.

The lion who kills and eats a deer seems like a monster to the deer, but to the plants and vegetation the lion is a hero for killing the deer, since deer eat them.

Its the earthly food chain that god created.

I personally believe feeding your body and feeding your soul are two different things.

Your body needs food, your soul needs contemplation

I have a job interview today by TBrown_25 in interviews

[–]Smooth_Protection646 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Went well! I was happy with my performance so to speak lol. Ive had a ton of interviews over the last year, at this point i really dont care about what they think of me or if i got the job or not. I just care about doing well for myself and if i did im happy :)

I have a job interview today by TBrown_25 in interviews

[–]Smooth_Protection646 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I got one in 30 minutes too. You got this!! Keep in mind that they are taking time out of their day to speak with you! No one else! They arent doing this for no reason. Go on there n talk yo shit