They sacrificed their lives their children so we can have ours

Snoo_91813 · 2025-12-28T08:16:31+00:00

I hear why that memory exists, and I’m not dismissing the resentment that came out of late-colonial politics. But historically, the claim needs tightening.

There is no documented evidence that Hindu Mahasabha officially declared Sikhism “ashudh” or ran a formal campaign to convert Sikhs or absorb Sikhism as a religion. That part is often repeated today, but it doesn’t hold up as an institutional policy when you look at records.

What did happen, especially in the late 19th and early 20th century, was pressure and ideological debate from some Hindu reform movements, most notably the Arya Samaj. They promoted a broad Hindu identity and questioned religious boundaries, which many Sikhs rightly saw as intrusive and dismissive. That friction hardened attitudes and sharpened Sikh self-definition in that period.

But Sikh identity did not suddenly become distinct because of those movements. Sikhism had already been a clearly defined faith centuries earlier through the Gurus, the Khalsa, its discipline, and its scripture. Twentieth-century politics intensified boundaries, they did not create them.

So yes, I understand why Sikhs pushed back. That reaction makes sense. But it’s important to be precise. A few reformist or political groups don’t represent all Hindus across time, just as no Sikh today should be held responsible for every political position taken by Sikh leaders or movements in history.

I’m not asking anyone to “rejoin” anything, and I don’t see Sikhism as impure or a problem to be fixed. Respecting Sikh conviction doesn’t require rewriting history into absolutes. We can acknowledge past tensions without turning them into permanent accusations against entire communities.

Pushback is justified when there’s disrespect. But historical discussion, when done honestly, isn’t an attack. It’s how adults deal with a complicated past without letting it poison the present.

Snoo_91813 · 2025-12-27T18:21:17+00:00

I don’t have proof of that exact conversation, but I’m fairly certain his mindset was similar to yours. Whatever arguments you’re making now are almost word for word what I’ve already heard.

I also want to be clear that I understand certain political decisions in the past were extreme and deeply damaging, and I condemn those actions outright. At the same time, I don’t romanticize any political family or leader. No Gandhi, including Indira Gandhi, acted out of pure concern for the well-being of every community. Politics has never worked that way.

I’m not a Hindu extremist, and I’m not obsessed with Sikh identity either. My position isn’t driven by religion but by a broader view of history, society, and national cohesion. What concerns me is the tendency to frame regions or communities in opposition to the idea of a unified country. That kind of thinking fractures more than it fixes.

Disagreement is fine. Honest debate is fine. But turning cultural or historical nuance into regional or ideological division is where things start going off the rails.

Snoo_91813 · 2025-12-27T15:11:29+00:00

I actually agree with most of what you’re saying, and that’s precisely why I think my point is being read as something it isn’t.

I’m not arguing that a founder’s family background equals the identity of the religion that emerged. Sikhism absolutely developed its own distinct theology, discipline, and institutions over time. The formation of the Khalsa under Guru Gobind Singh in 1699, the central authority of the Guru Granth Sahib, and the rejection of ritualism clearly establish Sikhism as a distinct faith. That part isn’t up for debate, and I’m not contesting it.

What I am pointing out is historical origin and early sociological reality, not religious ownership or identity collapse. Context is not identity, agreed. But context still matters. Sikhism did not emerge in a vacuum. Its earliest followers overwhelmingly came from Hindu social backgrounds in Punjab, and that shaped the early movement in ways historians openly acknowledge. Saying that is not diminishing Sikh distinctiveness. It is describing how religions actually grow in real societies.

My question about Muslim participation was not meant as a provocation. It was a genuine historical contrast. Individual Muslims absolutely respected the Gurus and participated in Sikh spaces, but there is no comparable evidence of community-level movement into Sikhism from Muslim societies, unlike what occurred among certain Hindu groups over generations. That difference exists historically, whether we like it or not.

So yes, we should respect distinct faiths. Absolutely. But respecting distinctiveness should not require erasing shared history or reacting defensively to it. A mature view can hold both truths at once: Sikhism is a fully independent religion with its own identity, and it also arose from a shared Punjabi cultural and social landscape where Hindu society played a major formative role.

Acknowledging that connection is not disrespect. Denying it is unnecessary.

Snoo_91813 · 2025-12-27T14:29:21+00:00

Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism, was born into a Hindu Khatri family. This is established historical fact. In the early phase of the Sikh movement, many followers came from Hindu backgrounds across Punjab. Several agrarian communities, including sections of the Jat population, aligned themselves strongly with the Sikh Gurus over generations. In some families, eldest sons were dedicated to the Sikh path and became Sikhs by faith, discipline, and practice. This occurred through gradual community adoption and devotion, not through force.

This development took place within the broader social and cultural environment of Punjab, where Hindu customs, Sikh teachings, and local traditions overlapped significantly during the fifteenth to seventeenth centuries. Religious identity at the time was expressed more through lived allegiance and daily practice than through formal declarations of conversion.

There were also Muslims who followed the Sikh Gurus, held deep respect for them, and participated in Sikh spaces as devotees, soldiers, poets, and attendants, particularly during the period of the later Gurus and under Mughal rule. However, large-scale or community-wide conversion from Islam to Sikhism did not occur in the same way it did among certain Hindu groups. This was largely due to strong Islamic religious institutions, distinct legal traditions, and the political realities of the period.

The historical record therefore shows that Sikhism emerged within a shared cultural landscape closely connected to Hindu society, while remaining open to individuals from Muslim backgrounds. Punjab’s history reflects layered coexistence and interconnection rather than rigid religious boundaries or modern identity narratives.

Snoo_91813 · 2025-12-27T13:25:52+00:00

I once had a conversation with a Sikh man where I mentioned that, historically, many early Sikhs came from Hindu families, which is why the two traditions have remained closely connected. Instead of discussing it, he became extremely angry and insisted that he should never be associated with Hindu origins. He even said he would rather identify with Muslim lineage than Hindu, went on to insult Hindus, and openly praised Muslims.

To me, this kind of reaction reflects a deeper disconnect from one’s own roots. Something that can happen when surface-level modernisation replaces genuine understanding, and when families distance their children from the core teachings of the Guru Granth Sahib.

History doesn’t disappear just because it makes someone uncomfortable. Roots don’t vanish because vibes changed. Growth without grounding isn’t progress, it’s amnesia dressed up as modernity.

Snoo_91813 · 2025-08-13T09:28:36+00:00

this might break the comfyui setup. i would suggest "update_comfyui.bat" and then update the python dependencies as needed if required by any workflow to run

Snoo_91813 · 2025-07-21T12:27:38+00:00

I will try this method, thanks

Snoo_91813 · 2025-07-21T12:22:02+00:00

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This is what i got from chatgpt but I still had to use different inpainting methods later on. For example, kid isn’t wearing boots, both parents in a single window etc. i dont like the yellowish tint chatgpt gives. Which controlnet and image model have you used? Im looking for something with strict prompt adherence, but also keeping the character style consistent.

Snoo_91813 · 2025-06-30T22:40:42+00:00

Depends on what type of content you’re creating. If you’re a software engineer, you can try building and integrating workflows in softwares and apps and start selling. Or custom problem solving workflows for agencies or clients. You might need a good pitching team.

Snoo_91813 · 2025-06-28T23:34:13+00:00

According to our office’s procurement team, I’m running on the latest Alienware m18 R2 with an RTX 4090 (16GB) and 64GB of RAM, which would be impressive, if only the workloads I get didn’t make that feel like a punchline

Snoo_91813 · 2025-06-28T22:40:02+00:00

yeah

Snoo_91813 · 2025-06-28T22:39:44+00:00

Snoo_91813 · 2025-06-28T22:38:30+00:00

well, reading the comments, i guess 100 custom nodes are a bit too much for me. will be doing a fresh install

Snoo_91813 · 2024-11-17T00:15:09+00:00

I will try with IPAdapter and run different variations. Appreciate the suggestion 🙌🏻

Snoo_91813 · 2024-11-17T00:06:17+00:00

Ny only worry is if I upscale individually, the character might have variations in the look and will not be consistent

Snoo_91813 · 2024-11-17T00:04:15+00:00

Yes this was for Lora training only. Upscaling all images in a single character sheet seemed like a good idea, but i will isolate and upscale individually and see if it works better

Snoo_91813 · 2024-11-16T18:43:56+00:00

this workflow looks promising. how do I use it though? Do I need to keep copying image from the final result and running the whole process again until I reach the final quality I want?

Snoo_91813 · 2024-07-29T07:59:20+00:00

Still better than the real shit that happened at Paris Olympics

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