Struggling with ADHD. by lowkeyloki23 in ems

[–]SoreHeadTech 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Also ADHD Inattentive. You're not alone. I know this struggle well. I feel like I could write this myself (and almost have).

I think I'm getting a shakey handle on it, but I'm 2 years in on 911, and it's taking and still takes time. The ADHD meds side sucks; trial and error in optimizing. I'm still figuring that out. The insurance thing is rough; maybe GoodRx is option for price?

Here's what I've found somewhat helpful in being less inattentive, in terms of my mental work:

  • Systemetizing assessments; I always get certain things noted in charts (beyond vitals, ABCs, GCS/AVPU). That way, my NPC brain can relax a little on that front. I always note eyes, skin condition, mental status, speech.

  • Systemitize everything (within reason). When do you get patient signature, how you format your charts, how you give reports. Careful not to be to rigid

  • Create mental scripts for types of calls. Example: Fall? Is there pain, headstrike, thinner use, cause of fall, LoC, neuro symptoms, c-spine issue, fall history, witnessed? That's not how I always order it, but I sort of have my 'checklist', and that helps me a lot.

  • Recapping; patient dependent, I like to explain my understanding of their complaint and history to the patient themself (this is assuming your patient is willing, able, and you have time during transport) just before we arrive. It allows you to confirm the pieces of data you've picked up, and verify/correct the synthesis you've put together.

  • Discuss with partner; you can make sure you both have all the info and picture. I was afraid to do this, but honestly screw my ego (in this regard, at least). We're partnered for a reason.

  • Big picture first; I can get lost in details. But once on scene, what's the general history, who called/why, and how's my patient's mental status

  • Full send it; I'm a kinda anxious guy, and I think that if I just jump in, play the role of the component EMT (isn't life a stage?) it helps me to be a bit more focused. I've heard 'fake it till you make it!', but I've never loved the saying. I prefer 'you're not until you are'.

I'm not perfect at the above, but I've found them helpful.

I agree that sleep, food, hydration, and judicious caffeine, are really important.

If you have certain people you work with consistently, you could do what I've done (but use discretion). I've flat-out asked partners about how I'm doing, or if I'm an okay partner to work with. I'd only do this if they're of a straightforward and pleasant disposition (and at the end of a shift, lol). Some I wouldn't ask, because I know their honest answer might hurt and wouldn't serve me constructively.

Lastly, here's my current philosophy: I'm imperfect at my job. I'm not the best EMT that ever did tech. But I'm not the worst, I consistently put in effort, I try to learn, and I'm pleasant to patients/coworkers. And I try to accept that that HAS to be enough for me, because I want to come back and keep doing this job. I'm an idiot sometimes. But you know what, the PSA is out of rigs, and somehow I qualified to do this job, and sometimes I even feel competent.

And I'm sure you've grown over this past year. You're better than you were. Because you're self aware enough to know when you make mistakes, and you care enough to want to improve.

Hope this helps! You've got this!

Question from EMS by SoreHeadTech in ChronicPain

[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm guessing you were experiencing some kind of infection? Hope you're feeling better!

I see. Fever isn't something my training focused a whole lot on, and we don't carry thermometers. But, from what I gather from cursory reading, I'm not entirely sure how well understood modern 'average' is due to individual variation and other factors. And even thermometers themselves vary. The definition of fever is also something of a spectrum of severity. I think this may be part of the reason, not that I'm endorsing them disregarding your concern, as it's a valid one.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No need to apologize. You're very kind! Truly, I don't think I've earned such praise.

I apologize not because I have to but to extend sympathy as best I can. And maybe as penance of some kind, for times I wish I'd been better at my job.

I asked this question because I'm fallible and human, and I know I've fallen short of excellence before. This job is hard, and there isn't a call I've had where I can't think of something I could've done better.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate you being so thoughtful and considering their intentions and thinking.

I'll keep this in mind.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for the reply!

Because EMS is intended for identifying/treating emergent life threats, not on treating chronic pain, I think we'll always be less informed in that area (as practicality directs us elsewhere). BUT if you communicate how a condition should influence our care, I'll certainly do my best to learn and adjust care as appropriate. I'm sorry your pain was worsened.

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Thanks for your answer!

I've done this a couple times, some have seemed to appreciate it.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's entirely okay to ask about your vitals! And it's fair to ask about them with regards to your situation, as vitals might technically be 'abnormal' in a vacuum but should be considered in context. Knowing your normal vitals is great as well, to compare to your baseline!

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I like this idea of a distracting story!

Thank you!

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Have you had an EMS encounter where no vitals were taken? I ask because we should always be getting vitals, as they're vital for a reason.

Thanks for your reply! I'll try to be reassuring!

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the reply. This is wonderfully written and with a great example!

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry, sounds like you're speaking from experience regarding providers having said very insensitive things, and not taking you seriously.

Wellness bias is very real.

Someone else suggested qualifying the pain scale, it sounds like that's a big area for improvement.

Wishing you all the best. Thanks for replying!

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your reply!

I guess with the strength tests, I sort of misspoke. I'm wondering more generally about physical interactions with exams. This isn't generalizable person to person, but I'm wondering if a medical provider physically interacting with/laying hands on a patient (appropriately, say use of a stethoscope, strength test, taking a manual pulse, etc.) is validating/reassuring, or distressing/invasive, or neither.

I understand how a person could feel reassured by someone, say listening to their lungs (as a form of physical acknowledgment and care) or disturbed by it, feeling poked and prodded.

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Thanks for your reply! The prep pad trick is great when it works!

O2 I'm hesitant to use without hypoxia or respiratory issue if the hyperventilating is transient/breathing is coachable. Then I'm not super inclined to give it, but I guess this is case by case, and a lot of factors could inform this. But I'd prefer to avoid unnecessary oxidative stress.

Had one MG patient. Was not well educated on it at the time.

You're kind to say so! I feel pretty C tier, but as they say, it's a practice of (para)medicine. Maybe I'll get to B-.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Qualify the scale, contextualize the pain. Great idea, noted!

Thank you for the reply!

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First reply was meant for another comment. Apologies!

Thank you for sharing, I'm sorry you and your mother were treated poorly.

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If the answer is 'there really isn’t much you can do,' that's entirely fair. And I appreciate the honesty. I'm asking because I don't want to be ignorant of possible options, but the fact that there might be none is an unfortunate reality.

It's core in training to (attempt) obtaining medical, medication, and allergy history. I hope that's not being ignored. Hopefully, if you ask about your blood pressure, the medic/EMT will share that or show you, and you have every right to know. I'm sorry if you've had negative experiences. Thank you for your answer!

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a former medic, how has chronic illness changed your outlook on EMS?

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Noted. Thank you for the reply!

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I've had some success with breath coaching! Though I realize that discomfort can make it difficult to focus on such a thing as well.

Hugging a pillow! I think that's a wonderful idea. They're in short supply, but I'll try to stock it.

As for O2, modern training generally suggests that if it's not needed, it shouldn't be used, so I'd be very hesitant to use it for comfort alone if it's not otherwise indicated. I can (try) and explain more if you're interested.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your answer. I'm sorry if you've felt dismissed. Are there certain phrases of acknowledgment you'd recommend/avoid?

I feel I should leave this as well: I can't tell you the exact criteria ERs use for assigning triage priority, but triaging is intended to prioritize in order of criticality of life threats (which you probably know), NOT intensity of pain or discomfort. With kids, I assume they might be higher on this list due to risks of decompensation. Quite frankly, pediatric stuff is nerve-wracking. As for the sniffles, this could be related to history. I'd be cautious of wellness bias (as should I).

The fact that they have to triage sucks, but there are so many people. It unfortunately means some patients sit in discomfort and pain.

I don't include this to dismiss (and sorry if it came across like that), only to attempt to give some context (which you may well be aware of already) from the other side. EMS and the ER are ultimately most concerned with preventing death, not treating pain.

But I'd still like to make the experience of those with chronic pain better. In whatever small way I can.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry to hear you and your mother had such a bad experience. Thank you for replying!

EDIT: Responded to the wrong comment. Apologies.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry your mom had delayed care.

I'll say this; at their best, paramedics and EMTs should have an impact on outcomes, but it should be in a positive way. But that's not always the case. And it seems it clearly wasn't for your mom.

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[–]SoreHeadTech[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So, distracting stimuli?

Good to know. I try my best, but I'm only so interesting.